Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 13 Questions for Bush about America's Anti-terrorism Crusade Martin A. Lee, AlterNet September 28, 2001 Mainstream journalists in the United States often function more like a fourth branch of government than a feisty fourth estate. If anything, the patterns of media bias that characterize sycophantic reporting in " peacetime " are amplified during a war or a national security crisis. Since the tragic events of September 11, the separation between press and state has dwindled nearly to the vanishing point. If we had an aggressive, independent press corps, our national conversation about the terrorist attacks that demolished the World Trade Center towers in New York and damaged the Pentagon would be far more probing and informative. Here are some examples of questions that reporters ought to be asking President Bush: 1. Before the attacks in New York and Washington, your administration quietly tolerated Saudi Arabian and Pakistani military and financial aid for the Taliban regime, even though it harbored terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden. But now you say fighting terrorism will be the main focus of your administration. By making counter-terrorism the top priority in bilateral relations, aren't you signaling to abusive governments in Sudan, Indonesia, Turkey, and elsewhere that they need not worry much about their human rights performance as long as they join America's anti-terrorist crusade? Will you barter human rights violations like corporations trade pollution credits? Will you condone, for example, the brutalization of Chechnya in exchange for Russian participation in the " war against terrorism " ? Or will you send a message loud and clear to America's allies that they must not use the fight against terrorism as a cover for waging repressive campaigns that smother democratic aspirations in their own countries? 2. Terrorists finance their operations by laundering money through offshore banks and other hot money outlets. Yet your administration has undermined international efforts to crack down on tax havens. Last May, you withdrew support for a comprehensive initiative launched by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), which sought greater transparency in tax and banking practices. In the wake of the September 11 massacre, will you reassess this decision and support the OECD proposal, even if it means displeasing wealthy Americans and campaign contributors who avoid paying taxes by hiding money in offshore accounts? 3. Four months ago, U.S. officials announced that Washington was giving $43 million to the Taliban for its role in reducing the cultivation of opium poppies, despite the Taliban's heinous human rights record and its sheltering of Islamic terrorists of many nationalities. Doesn't this make the U.S. government guilty of supporting a country that harbors terrorists? Do you think your obsession with the " war on drugs " has distorted U.S. foreign policy in Southwest Asia and other regions? 4. According to U.S., German, and Russian intelligence sources, Osama bin Laden's operatives have been trying to acquire enriched uranium and other weapons-grade radioactive materials for a nuclear bomb. There are reports that in 1993 bin Laden's well-financed organization tried to buy enriched uranium from poorly maintained Russian facilities that lacked sufficient controls. Why has your administration proposed cutting funds for a program to help safeguard nuclear materials in the former Soviet Union? 5. On September 23rd , you announced plans to make public a detailed analysis of the evidence gathered by U.S intelligence and police agencies, which proves that Osama bin Laden and his cohorts are guilty of the terrorist attacks in New York and the Pentagon. But the next day your administration backpedaled. " As we look through [the evidence], " explained Secretary of State Colin Powell, " we can find areas that are unclassified and it will allow us to share this information with the public... But most of it is classified. " Please explain this sudden flip-flop. How can we believe what you say about fighting terrorism if your administration can't make its case publicly with sufficient evidence? How do you expect to win the support of governments and people who otherwise might suspect Washington's motives, particularly some Muslim and Arab nations? 6. Exactly who is a terrorist, and who is not? When the CIA was busy doling out an estimated $2 billion to support the Afghan mujahadeen in the 1980s, Osama bin Laden and his colleagues were hailed as anti-communist freedom fighters. During the cold war, U.S. national security strategists, many of whom are riding top saddle once again in your administration, didn't view bin Laden's fanatical religious beliefs as diametrically opposed to western civilization. But now bin Laden and his ilk are unabashed terrorists. Definitions of what constitutes terror and terrorism seem to change with the times. Before he became vice president, Dick Cheney and the U.S. State Department denounced Nelson Mandela, leader of the African National Congress, as a terrorist. Today Mandela, South Africa's president emeritus, is considered a great and dignified statesman. And what about Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon, who bears significant responsibility for the 1982 massacre of 1,800 innocents at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Lebanon. What role will Sharon play in your crusade against international terrorism? 7. There's been a lot of talk lately about unshackling the CIA and lifting the alleged ban on CIA assassinations. Many U.S. officials attribute the CIA's inability to thwart the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington to rules that supposedly have prohibited the CIA from utilizing gangsters, death squad leaders, and other " unsavory " characters as sources and assets. Why don't you set the record straight, Mr. President, and acknowledge there were always gaping loopholes in these rules, which allowed such activity to continue unabated? It's precisely this sort of dubious activity -- enlisting unsavory characters to advance U.S. foreign policy objectives -- that set the stage for tragic events on September 11th. It's hardly a secret that the CIA trained and financed Islamic extremists to topple the Soviet-backed regime in Afghanistan. Some of the same extremists supported by the CIA, most notably bin Laden, have since turned their psychotic wrath against the United States. Instead of rewarding the CIA with billions of additional dollars to fight terrorism, shouldn't you hold accountable those shortsighted and perilously naïve U.S. intelligence officials who ran the covert operation in Afghanistan that got us into this mess? 8. John Negroponte, the new U.S. ambassador the United Nations, says he intends to build an international anti-terrorist coalition. During the mid-1980s, Negroponte was involved in covering up right-wing death squad activity and other human rights abuses in Honduras when he served as ambassador to that country. Doesn't Negroponte's role in aiding and abetting state terrorism in Central America undermine the moral authority of the United States as it embarks upon a crusade against international terrorism? 9. The attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon brought home the frightening extent to which U.S. citizens and installations are vulnerable to terrorist attacks. If terrorists hit a nuclear power plant, it could result in an enormous public health disaster. In the interest of protecting national security, why haven't you ordered the immediate phase-out of the 103 nuclear power plants that are currently operating in the United States? Why doesn't your administration emphasize safe, renewable energy alternatives, such as solar and wind power, which would not invite terrorism? 10. After years of successful lobbying against rigorous safety procedures, the heads of the airline industry will receive a multibillion-dollar taxpayer bailout for their ailing companies. Given your support for the airline rescue package, do you now agree that letting the free market run its course won't resolve all our economic and social problems? (That's what anti-globalization activists have been saying all along.) And if airlines deserve a bail-out, how about a multibillion-dollar rescue package for human needs like health and education? Why aren't we bailing out our under-funded public schools, our insolvent hospitals, our national railroads, and other elements of our dilapidated social infrastructure? 11. September 11th will be remembered as a day of infamy in the United States because of the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington. In Chile, September 11th is also remembered as the day when a U.S.-back coup toppled the democratically elected government of Salvador Allende in 1973, initiating a reign of terror by General Augusto Pinochet. Given your administration's avowed stance against terrorism, will you cooperate with the various international legal cases that are honing in on ex-Secretary of State Henry Kissinger for colluding with Pinochet's murderous regime? 12. If the killing of innocent people in New York and Washington is indefensible, and surely it is, then why do U.S. officials defend American air strikes that kill innocent civilians in Iraq, Sudan, Serbia, and Afghanistan? More than 500,000 Iraqi children under age 5 have died as a result of the 1990 Gulf War, subsequent economic sanctions, and ongoing U.S. bombing raids against Iraq. Will your planned actions lead to a similar fate for the children of Afghanistan? 13. What will you accomplish if you bomb Afghanistan? Wouldn't this galvanize Islamic fundamentalist movements that are already powerful in Algeria, Egypt, Pakistan, Sudan, the oil-rich Arab monarchies, and the Balkans? Wouldn't a U.S.-led military onslaught against Afghanistan be the fastest way to create a new generation of terrorists? Adept at manipulating real grievances, terrorist networks breed on poverty, despair, and social injustice. Do you think you can wipe out or even reduce this scourge, Mr. President, without seriously and systematically addressing the root causes of terrorism? Martin A. Lee (martinalee117) is the author of Acid Dreams and The Beast Reawakens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Hi Fraggle > 13 Questions for Bush about America's Anti-terrorism Crusade I've got a few more..... Considering that George W. Bush is freezing the assets of everyone connected to terrorism and Osama Bin Laden, will he be freezing his own assets? His own wealth comes from a company he founded with the funding of Salim Bin Laden - Osama Bin Laden's brother! Will he be freezing the assets of Unocal? Unocal is the oil company part owned by Dick Cheney which helps to fund the military dictatorships in Burma, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Libya & Nigeria - many of whom support terrorist organisations. When asked about Unocal's use of slave labour in these countries, Cheney stated " You have to operate in some very difficult places and oftentimes in countries that are governed in a manner that's not consistent with our principles here in the United States. " Will he be freezing the assets of the CIA who, when his father was head of the organisation, was linked to a terrorist attack on a Cuban airliner which killed 76 people? Will he be freezing the assets of Noraid - the American organisation which supplies arms and funding to the IRA? Will he be freezing the assets of Gerlad Ford, Ronad Raegan and Jimmy Carter who, as Presidents of America, openly offered a safe haven to those willing to be involved in terrorist attacks against Cuba? Will he be freezing the assets of the the US army who, in 1962, circulated a memorandum entitled " Possible Actions to Provoke, Harass or Disrupt Cuba " , in which they recommended deliberately downing a US passenger airliner or sinking a US warship, and then blame Castro for orchestrating the attacks. Considering George W Bush's desire to see terrorists brought to justice, will he be bringing prosecutions against Colin Powell, Norman Schwarzkopf, Ronald Raegan, Gerald Ford, Oliver North, Henry Kissinger, Robert McNamara, John Deutch, Elliot Abrams and Bush snr, in line with their indictements of war crimes and breaches of the Geneva Convention by the Japanese government in 1997? BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release 18/09/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2001 Report Share Posted October 5, 2001 Fraggle Thanks for all the info you send. It really is interesting, and gives me information for 'discussions'. Jo -- " All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. " - Arthur Schopenhauer - <EBbrewpunx <0veganpunx >; <ESI-List; <bevanmetro; <froggywogg; <spikysue; Friday, October 05, 2001 3:50 PM 13 Questions for Bush about America's Anti-terrorism Crusade > 13 Questions for Bush about America's Anti-terrorism Crusade > Martin A. Lee, AlterNet > September 28, 2001 > > Mainstream journalists in the United States often function more like a fourth branch of government than a feisty fourth estate. If anything, the patterns of media bias that characterize sycophantic reporting in " peacetime " are amplified during a war or a national security crisis. > > > Since the tragic events of September 11, the separation between press and state has dwindled nearly to the vanishing point. If we had an aggressive, independent press corps, our national conversation about the terrorist attacks that demolished the World Trade Center towers in New York and damaged the Pentagon would be far more probing and informative. Here are some examples of questions that reporters ought to be asking President Bush: > > > 1. Before the attacks in New York and Washington, your administration quietly tolerated Saudi Arabian and Pakistani military and financial aid for the Taliban regime, even though it harbored terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden. But now you say fighting terrorism will be the main focus of your administration. > > > By making counter-terrorism the top priority in bilateral relations, aren't you signaling to abusive governments in Sudan, Indonesia, Turkey, and elsewhere that they need not worry much about their human rights performance as long as they join America's anti-terrorist crusade? Will you barter human rights violations like corporations trade pollution credits? Will you condone, for example, the brutalization of Chechnya in exchange for Russian participation in the " war against terrorism " ? Or will you send a message loud and clear to America's allies that they must not use the fight against terrorism as a cover for waging repressive campaigns that smother democratic aspirations in their own countries? > > > 2. Terrorists finance their operations by laundering money through offshore banks and other hot money outlets. Yet your administration has undermined international efforts to crack down on tax havens. Last May, you withdrew support for a comprehensive initiative launched by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), which sought greater transparency in tax and banking practices. > > > In the wake of the September 11 massacre, will you reassess this decision and support the OECD proposal, even if it means displeasing wealthy Americans and campaign contributors who avoid paying taxes by hiding money in offshore accounts? > > > 3. Four months ago, U.S. officials announced that Washington was giving $43 million to the Taliban for its role in reducing the cultivation of opium poppies, despite the Taliban's heinous human rights record and its sheltering of Islamic terrorists of many nationalities. Doesn't this make the U.S. government guilty of supporting a country that harbors terrorists? Do you think your obsession with the " war on drugs " has distorted U.S. foreign policy in Southwest Asia and other regions? > > > 4. According to U.S., German, and Russian intelligence sources, Osama bin Laden's operatives have been trying to acquire enriched uranium and other weapons-grade radioactive materials for a nuclear bomb. There are reports that in 1993 bin Laden's well-financed organization tried to buy enriched uranium from poorly maintained Russian facilities that lacked sufficient controls. Why has your administration proposed cutting funds for a program to help safeguard nuclear materials in the former Soviet Union? > > > 5. On September 23rd , you announced plans to make public a detailed analysis of the evidence gathered by U.S intelligence and police agencies, which proves that Osama bin Laden and his cohorts are guilty of the terrorist attacks in New York and the Pentagon. But the next day your administration backpedaled. " As we look through [the evidence], " explained Secretary of State Colin Powell, " we can find areas that are unclassified and it will allow us to share this information with the public... But most of it is classified. " > > > Please explain this sudden flip-flop. How can we believe what you say about fighting terrorism if your administration can't make its case publicly with sufficient evidence? How do you expect to win the support of governments and people who otherwise might suspect Washington's motives, particularly some Muslim and Arab nations? > > > 6. Exactly who is a terrorist, and who is not? > > > When the CIA was busy doling out an estimated $2 billion to support the Afghan mujahadeen in the 1980s, Osama bin Laden and his colleagues were hailed as anti-communist freedom fighters. During the cold war, U.S. national security strategists, many of whom are riding top saddle once again in your administration, didn't view bin Laden's fanatical religious beliefs as diametrically opposed to western civilization. But now bin Laden and his ilk are unabashed terrorists. > > > Definitions of what constitutes terror and terrorism seem to change with the times. Before he became vice president, Dick Cheney and the U.S. State Department denounced Nelson Mandela, leader of the African National Congress, as a terrorist. Today Mandela, South Africa's president emeritus, is considered a great and dignified statesman. And what about Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon, who bears significant responsibility for the 1982 massacre of 1,800 innocents at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Lebanon. What role will Sharon play in your crusade against international terrorism? > > > 7. There's been a lot of talk lately about unshackling the CIA and lifting the alleged ban on CIA assassinations. Many U.S. officials attribute the CIA's inability to thwart the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington to rules that supposedly have prohibited the CIA from utilizing gangsters, death squad leaders, and other " unsavory " characters as sources and assets. Why don't you set the record straight, Mr. President, and acknowledge there were always gaping loopholes in these rules, which allowed such activity to continue unabated? > > > It's precisely this sort of dubious activity -- enlisting unsavory characters to advance U.S. foreign policy objectives -- that set the stage for tragic events on September 11th. It's hardly a secret that the CIA trained and financed Islamic extremists to topple the Soviet-backed regime in Afghanistan. Some of the same extremists supported by the CIA, most notably bin Laden, have since turned their psychotic wrath against the United States. > > > Instead of rewarding the CIA with billions of additional dollars to fight terrorism, shouldn't you hold accountable those shortsighted and perilously naïve U.S. intelligence officials who ran the covert operation in Afghanistan that got us into this mess? > > > 8. John Negroponte, the new U.S. ambassador the United Nations, says he intends to build an international anti-terrorist coalition. During the mid-1980s, Negroponte was involved in covering up right-wing death squad activity and other human rights abuses in Honduras when he served as ambassador to that country. Doesn't Negroponte's role in aiding and abetting state terrorism in Central America undermine the moral authority of the United States as it embarks upon a crusade against international terrorism? > > > 9. The attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon brought home the frightening extent to which U.S. citizens and installations are vulnerable to terrorist attacks. If terrorists hit a nuclear power plant, it could result in an enormous public health disaster. In the interest of protecting national security, why haven't you ordered the immediate phase-out of the 103 nuclear power plants that are currently operating in the United States? Why doesn't your administration emphasize safe, renewable energy alternatives, such as solar and wind power, which would not invite terrorism? > > > 10. After years of successful lobbying against rigorous safety procedures, the heads of the airline industry will receive a multibillion-dollar taxpayer bailout for their ailing companies. Given your support for the airline rescue package, do you now agree that letting the free market run its course won't resolve all our economic and social problems? (That's what anti-globalization activists have been saying all along.) And if airlines deserve a bail-out, how about a multibillion-dollar rescue package for human needs like health and education? Why aren't we bailing out our under-funded public schools, our insolvent hospitals, our national railroads, and other elements of our dilapidated social infrastructure? > > > 11. September 11th will be remembered as a day of infamy in the United States because of the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington. In Chile, September 11th is also remembered as the day when a U.S.-back coup toppled the democratically elected government of Salvador Allende in 1973, initiating a reign of terror by General Augusto Pinochet. Given your administration's avowed stance against terrorism, will you cooperate with the various international legal cases that are honing in on ex-Secretary of State Henry Kissinger for colluding with Pinochet's murderous regime? > > > 12. If the killing of innocent people in New York and Washington is indefensible, and surely it is, then why do U.S. officials defend American air strikes that kill innocent civilians in Iraq, Sudan, Serbia, and Afghanistan? More than 500,000 Iraqi children under age 5 have died as a result of the 1990 Gulf War, subsequent economic sanctions, and ongoing U.S. bombing raids against Iraq. Will your planned actions lead to a similar fate for the children of Afghanistan? > > > 13. What will you accomplish if you bomb Afghanistan? Wouldn't this galvanize Islamic fundamentalist movements that are already powerful in Algeria, Egypt, Pakistan, Sudan, the oil-rich Arab monarchies, and the Balkans? Wouldn't a U.S.-led military onslaught against Afghanistan be the fastest way to create a new generation of terrorists? > > > Adept at manipulating real grievances, terrorist networks breed on poverty, despair, and social injustice. Do you think you can wipe out or even reduce this scourge, Mr. President, without seriously and systematically addressing the root causes of terrorism? > > > Martin A. Lee (martinalee117) is the author of Acid Dreams and The Beast Reawakens. > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 Peter wrote: > > Hi Fraggle > > > 13 Questions for Bush about America's Anti-terrorism Crusade > Most of them made perfect sense, but I thought there was a bit of woolley thinking in there. The knee-jerk clampdown on civil liberties is as predictable as it is worrying. And the 1980s US government is getting off too lightly for the dirty tricks it employed. The big lie is calling something that's obviously a " War Against Al-Quaeda " a " War Against All Terrorism " . > I've got a few more..... > > Considering that George W. Bush is freezing the assets of everyone connected > to terrorism and Osama Bin Laden, will he be freezing his own assets? His > own wealth comes from a company he founded with the funding of Salim Bin > Laden - Osama Bin Laden's brother! The " assets freeze " is actually formal permission to the US banks to freeze assets without getting proper permission. I suspect that " connected to " doesn't mean " coventures with people who happen to be his brother " . His sister's in the UK, but there's no sign that she's being persecuted. > Will he be freezing the assets of Unocal? Unocal is the oil company part > owned by Dick Cheney which helps to fund the military dictatorships in > Burma, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Libya & Nigeria - many of whom support > terrorist organisations. Define " help to fund " ? Does it mean anything more than " pays taxes " ? More importantly, Indonesia, Iran, and Nigeria are not military dictatorships. Indonesia and Nigeria have been, but not for the lsat year or three. > Will he be freezing the assets of the CIA who, when his father was head of > the organisation, was linked to a terrorist attack on a Cuban airliner which > killed 76 people? Define " was linked " . Although there's no disputing that the CIA did some very unethical stuff in the 1980s. On the other hand, it's not part of the action to freeze the assets alone of people and organisations that used to support terrorism, but no longer. > Will he be freezing the assets of Noraid - the American organisation which > supplies arms and funding to the IRA? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that was frozen years ago? > Will he be freezing the assets of Gerlad Ford, Ronad Raegan and Jimmy Carter > who, as Presidents of America, openly offered a safe haven to those willing > to be involved in terrorist attacks against Cuba? It's got to be present tense to cause the freeze. Anyway, what is this offer - I didn't know of it before, but it sounds in character - and what did it define as terrorist? > Will he be freezing the assets of the the US army who, in 1962, circulated a > memorandum entitled " Possible Actions to Provoke, Harass or Disrupt Cuba " , > in which they recommended deliberately downing a US passenger airliner or > sinking a US warship, and then blame Castro for orchestrating the attacks. Not present tense. Also, only a memo, and not US army policy. One is allowed to have collective passing thoughts about terrorism ... and not get debts frozen. > Considering George W Bush's desire to see terrorists brought to justice, > will he be bringing prosecutions against Colin Powell, Norman Schwarzkopf, > Ronald Raegan, Gerald Ford, Oliver North, Henry Kissinger, Robert McNamara, > John Deutch, Elliot Abrams and Bush snr, in line with their indictements of > war crimes and breaches of the Geneva Convention by the Japanese government > in 1997? Again, I don't know of what you refer. But it doesn't seem important enough for the present Japanese government to bother. And you presuppose that the 1997 Japanese government was right. Given that the nation hasn't yet come to terms with its own history, I'm not inclined to take indictments at face value. But I wish someone *would* prosecute Henry Kissenger. I don't know whether he'd be innocent or guilty, but it would show that he wasn't above the law. > BB > Peter > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release 18/09/01 > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 Hi Ian > Most of them made perfect sense, but I thought there was a bit of > woolley thinking in there. My point was really to highlight the hipocricy of the people at the top of US politics, rather than suggest any action *should* be taken. > The knee-jerk clampdown on civil liberties is > as predictable as it is worrying. And the 1980s US government is getting > off too lightly for the dirty tricks it employed. Definitely! > The " assets freeze " is actually formal permission to the US banks to > freeze assets without getting proper permission. I suspect that > " connected to " doesn't mean " coventures with people who happen to be his > brother " . His sister's in the UK, but there's no sign that she's being > persecuted. The point I was making was that Bush wantsto take action against everyone who is connected to terrorism (he has stated this explicitly), but is quite happy to be in business with somebody who is connected to a suspected terrorist. > > Will he be freezing the assets of Unocal? Unocal is the oil company part > > owned by Dick Cheney which helps to fund the military dictatorships in > > Burma, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Libya & Nigeria - many of whom support > > terrorist organisations. > Define " help to fund " ? Does it mean anything more than " pays taxes " ? Does it matter? American policy is that business is not done with these countries - unless you happen to be the vice president. > More importantly, Indonesia, Iran, and Nigeria are not military > dictatorships. Indonesia and Nigeria have been, but not for the lsat > year or three. When did these countries hold elections? > > Will he be freezing the assets of the CIA who, when his father was head of > > the organisation, was linked to a terrorist attack on a Cuban airliner which > > killed 76 people? > Define " was linked " . It is generally accepted that the CIA was responsible for the attack - there is certainly more evidence of this than there is of Bin Laden's involvement in the recent attacks - but that evidence is good enough to start a full blown war against Afghanistan! > > Will he be freezing the assets of Noraid - the American organisation which > > supplies arms and funding to the IRA? > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that was frozen years ago? There seem to be a lot of Northern Irish people calling for this action at the moment. I don't know whether it has been frozen in the past, but the public of Northern Ireland don't seem to think it is. > > Will he be freezing the assets of Gerlad Ford, Ronad Raegan and Jimmy Carter > > who, as Presidents of America, openly offered a safe haven to those willing > > to be involved in terrorist attacks against Cuba? > It's got to be present tense to cause the freeze. Anyway, what is this > offer - I didn't know of it before, but it sounds in character - and > what did it define as terrorist? Again, more pointing out the hipocrysy of the politicians than recommending a course of action. I believe the offer was a safe haven for anyone accused of terrorism against Cuba, or anyone willing to undertake terrorist attacks against Cuba. > > Will he be freezing the assets of the the US army who, in 1962, circulated a > > memorandum entitled " Possible Actions to Provoke, Harass or Disrupt Cuba " , > > in which they recommended deliberately downing a US passenger airliner or > > sinking a US warship, and then blame Castro for orchestrating the attacks. > Not present tense. Also, only a memo, and not US army policy. One is > allowed to have collective passing thoughts about terrorism ... and not > get debts frozen. " Only a memo " which recommended killing US citizens for political aims - and, again, it seems more evidence of involvement in terrorism than anything they have against Bin Laden. > Again, I don't know of what you refer. But it doesn't seem important > enough for the present Japanese government to bother. They have been told that if they set foot on Japanese soil, they will be arrested. > And you presuppose > that the 1997 Japanese government was right. I presuoppose that they have more evidence against these people than America has against Bin Laden - again, it is the hipocrysy that I am highlighting. > But I wish someone *would* prosecute Henry Kissenger. I don't know > whether he'd be innocent or guilty, but it would show that he wasn't > above the law. Problem with that - he *is* above the law!! BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release 18/09/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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