Snow - RSPB

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>

> I'm *not* a member of RSPB because I adore birds. I

> think their attempts to control populations by

> culling is utterly reprehensible.

 

Agreed - the RSPB have a policy of killing crows,

black headed gulls, deer and pine-marten to protect

one species - the Capercaillie (a turkey sized grouse)

- it was thought the capercaillie was extinct but the

Victorians reintroduced them in 1837 for shooting, and

some have still lingered on - but not a great deal -

largely due to habitat loss - but anyway, lets just go

and obliterate a large proportion of other species, so

this one can live -

 

> Nature is nature. It happens - I'd rather see nature

> take its course than have humans mess about with it

> and cause more harm (as they undoubtedly would).

 

Culling the dear, has led to an increase in the

Caledonian Pine Forest, the Capercaillie habitat, but

these birds also need a lot of open ground, - but

because there are no deer eating the grass and keeping

the ground vegetation down, the capercaillie are

suffereing -

Conservation at the moment is very much a suck-em-and

see approach, and we shouldn't really interfere until

we know the consequences of what we're doing -

Everything in moderation and that includes, deer,

crows, pine-marten, regenerating pine forest and then

capercaillie -

You can't penalise a species just because it has

adapted to its environment - but that's what we do all

the time - If it's not an aesthetically pleasing

little thing, or its a scavenger or opportunist, then

nobody will miss it, so lets get rid of it -

 

<confused & annoyed about conservation as it stands

today>

Joeann

 

 

 

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Joeann

 

I didn't realise they had been like that with other birds!

 

Jo

>

> Agreed - the RSPB have a policy of killing crows,

> black headed gulls, deer and pine-marten to protect

> one species - the Capercaillie (a turkey sized grouse)

> - it was thought the capercaillie was extinct but the

> Victorians reintroduced them in 1837 for shooting, and

> some have still lingered on - but not a great deal -

> largely due to habitat loss - but anyway, lets just go

> and obliterate a large proportion of other species, so

> this one can live -

>

> > Nature is nature. It happens - I'd rather see nature

> > take its course than have humans mess about with it

> > and cause more harm (as they undoubtedly would).

>

> Culling the dear, has led to an increase in the

> Caledonian Pine Forest, the Capercaillie habitat, but

> these birds also need a lot of open ground, - but

> because there are no deer eating the grass and keeping

> the ground vegetation down, the capercaillie are

> suffereing -

> Conservation at the moment is very much a suck-em-and

> see approach, and we shouldn't really interfere until

> we know the consequences of what we're doing -

> Everything in moderation and that includes, deer,

> crows, pine-marten, regenerating pine forest and then

> capercaillie -

> You can't penalise a species just because it has

> adapted to its environment - but that's what we do all

> the time - If it's not an aesthetically pleasing

> little thing, or its a scavenger or opportunist, then

> nobody will miss it, so lets get rid of it -

>

> <confused & annoyed about conservation as it stands

> today>

> Joeann

>

>

>

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> Nokia 5510 looks weird sounds great.

> Go to http://uk.promotions./nokia/ discover and win it!

> The competition ends 16 th of December 2001.

>

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>

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Hi Jo,

Yeah, sad but true -

In the highlands at the moment, there is a big drive

to promote/protect the Capercaillie, which is seen as

the next 'flagship' bird (it had been the Osprey) -

and unfortunately that means killing others -

I think part of the problem is because the RSPB are a

voluntary body, they depend on memberships and

donations for all their income - and so they are

swayed by what the 'people' want - and supposedly now

we want Capercaillie - but at what cost?

 

...blah, its annoying...

Joeann

 

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I didn't realise they had been like that with other

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& gt; one species - the Capercaillie (a turkey sized

grouse)<BR>

& gt; - it was thought the capercaillie was extinct but

the<BR>

& gt; Victorians reintroduced them in 1837 for

shooting, and<BR>

& gt; some have still lingered on - but not a great

deal -<BR>

& gt; largely due to habitat loss - but anyway, lets

just go<BR>

& gt; and obliterate a large proportion of other

species, so<BR>

& gt; this one can live -<BR>

& gt;<BR>

& gt; & gt; Nature is nature. It happens - I'd rather

see nature<BR>

& gt; & gt; take its course than have humans mess about

with it<BR>

& gt; & gt; and cause more harm (as they undoubtedly

would).<BR>

& gt;<BR>

& gt; Culling the dear, has led to an increase in

the<BR>

& gt; Caledonian Pine Forest, the Capercaillie habitat,

but<BR>

& gt; these birds also need a lot of open ground, -

but<BR>

& gt; because there are no deer eating the grass and

keeping<BR>

& gt; the ground vegetation down, the capercaillie

are<BR>

& gt; suffereing -<BR>

& gt; Conservation at the moment is very much a

suck-em-and<BR>

& gt; see approach, and we shouldn't really interfere

until<BR>

& gt; we know the consequences of what we're doing

-<BR>

& gt; Everything in moderation and that includes,

deer,<BR>

& gt; crows, pine-marten, regenerating pine forest and

then<BR>

& gt; capercaillie -<BR>

& gt; You can't penalise a species just because it

has<BR>

& gt; adapted to its environment - but that's what we

do all<BR>

& gt; the time - If it's not an aesthetically

pleasing<BR>

& gt; little thing, or its a scavenger or opportunist,

then<BR>

& gt; nobody will miss it, so lets get rid of it -<BR>

& gt;<BR>

& gt; & lt;confused & amp; annoyed about conservation as

it stands<BR>

& gt; today & gt;<BR>

& gt; Joeann<BR>

& gt;<BR>

& gt;<BR>

& gt;<BR>

& gt;

______________<BR>

& gt; Nokia 5510 looks weird sounds great.<BR>

& gt; Go to <a

href= " http://uk.promotions./nokia/ " >http://uk.promotions./noki\

a/</a>

discover and win it!<BR>

& gt; The competition ends 16 th of December 2001.<BR>

& gt;<BR>

& gt;<BR>

& gt;<BR>

& gt; To send an email to

- <BR>

& gt;<BR>

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