Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 In message <20011217133920.62987.qmail, joeann cantillon <goosy_gander writes >rabbit, rats, >mice, voles, moles and any other small vermin - vermin?? i'm sure you didn't mean to use that word. who decides who is vermin and who is not? btw, feral cats do NOT lead happy, successful lives - except in the limited sense that a minority live long enough to breed more misery. it is very rare for a feral to live even half its natural lifespan, and for every one that reaches adulthood [and endless persecution and breeding] many many more succumb to starvation, sickness, cruelty and road accidents. even those born feral don't survive long, while a pet cat suddenly left to its own devices usually doesn't last more than a few weeks or months unless it finds a new home for itself before it becomes too sick, shabby and fearful of humans to be acceptable. if you hear anyone perpetuating the cats-can-cope myth, please tell them it's not true - as the many charities trying to help feral cats can testify. in saying this i'm certainly not intending to criticise anyone on the list for keeping a cat in a flat or a bird in a cage - let's close down the pet shops, the breeders, the vivisection outfits, before we start attacking other vegans who are doing their best in an imperfect world. good wishes to everyone, vanessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Well said Viv Lets criticise the vivisectors/hunters etc not each other It weakens us and united we stand !!!etc Angie - " vclarke " <vegans Monday, December 17, 2001 4:20 PM companion animals and birds > In message <20011217133920.62987.qmail, joeann > cantillon <goosy_gander writes > > >rabbit, rats, > >mice, voles, moles and any other small vermin - > > vermin?? > i'm sure you didn't mean to use that word. > who decides who is vermin and who is not? > > btw, feral cats do NOT lead happy, successful lives - except in the > limited sense that a minority live long enough to breed more misery. > it is very rare for a feral to live even half its natural lifespan, and > for every one that reaches adulthood [and endless persecution and > breeding] many many more succumb to starvation, sickness, cruelty and > road accidents. even those born feral don't survive long, while a pet > cat suddenly left to its own devices usually doesn't last more than a > few weeks or months unless it finds a new home for itself before it > becomes too sick, shabby and fearful of humans to be acceptable. if you > hear anyone perpetuating the cats-can-cope myth, please tell them it's > not true - as the many charities trying to help feral cats can testify. > > in saying this i'm certainly not intending to criticise anyone on the > list for keeping a cat in a flat or a bird in a cage - let's close down > the pet shops, the breeders, the vivisection outfits, before we start > attacking other vegans who are doing their best in an imperfect world. > > good wishes to everyone, > > vanessa > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2001 Report Share Posted December 18, 2001 No! Twas Vanessa not me. I agree of course; some of my best friends are " vermin " ... Cheers Viv " You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji " www.veganvillage.co.uk www.vegansociety.com http://VEGAN-info.com/index.htm Angie Wright [angiewright] Monday, December 17, 2001 10:49 PM Re: companion animals and birds Well said Viv Lets criticise the vivisectors/hunters etc not each other It weakens us and united we stand !!!etc Angie - " vclarke " <vegans Monday, December 17, 2001 4:20 PM companion animals and birds > In message <20011217133920.62987.qmail, joeann > cantillon <goosy_gander writes > > >rabbit, rats, > >mice, voles, moles and any other small vermin - > > vermin?? > i'm sure you didn't mean to use that word. > who decides who is vermin and who is not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 I'm vermin My race is wiping out the planet Angie - " Viv " <Viv Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:57 AM RE: companion animals and birds > No! Twas Vanessa not me. I agree of course; some of my best friends are > " vermin " ... > > Cheers > > Viv > > " You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji " > www.veganvillage.co.uk > www.vegansociety.com > http://VEGAN-info.com/index.htm > > > > Angie Wright [angiewright] > Monday, December 17, 2001 10:49 PM > > Re: companion animals and birds > > > Well said Viv Lets criticise the vivisectors/hunters etc not each other > It weakens us and united we stand !!!etc Angie > > - > " vclarke " <vegans > > Monday, December 17, 2001 4:20 PM > companion animals and birds > > > > In message <20011217133920.62987.qmail, joeann > > cantillon <goosy_gander writes > > > > >rabbit, rats, > > >mice, voles, moles and any other small vermin - > > > > vermin?? > > i'm sure you didn't mean to use that word. > > who decides who is vermin and who is not? > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2001 Report Share Posted December 19, 2001 but vermin can be sooo cute!!!!! *sigh* glad i'm a fraggle and can claim humans ain't my race!!! teehee fraggle " Angie Wright " <angiewright wrote: >I'm vermin My race is wiping out the planet Angie > >- > " Viv " <Viv > >Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:57 AM >RE: companion animals and birds > > >> No! Twas Vanessa not me. I agree of course; some of my best friends are >> " vermin " ... >> >> Cheers >> >> Viv >> >> " You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji " >> www.veganvillage.co.uk >> www.vegansociety.com >> http://VEGAN-info.com/index.htm >> >> >> >> Angie Wright [angiewright] >> Monday, December 17, 2001 10:49 PM >> >> Re: companion animals and birds >> >> >> Well said Viv Lets criticise the vivisectors/hunters etc not each other >> It weakens us and united we stand !!!etc Angie >> >> - >> " vclarke " <vegans >> >> Monday, December 17, 2001 4:20 PM >> companion animals and birds >> >> >> > In message <20011217133920.62987.qmail, joeann >> > cantillon <goosy_gander writes >> > >> > >rabbit, rats, >> > >mice, voles, moles and any other small vermin - >> > >> > vermin?? >> > i'm sure you didn't mean to use that word. >> > who decides who is vermin and who is not? >> >> >> >> >> To send an email to - >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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