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There's " Lesbian " ... but I think she *wants* to reclaim the d-word.

 

Janey wrote:

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> I don't like the word *dyke*. Isn't there a better alternative?!

>

> Janey

> x

> >

> > serene, big ol' vegan dyke

> > --

>

 

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Fair enough.

 

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" Dr Ian McDonald " <ian.mcdonald

 

Friday, January 04, 2002 9:55 PM

Re: OT Dyke

 

 

> There's " Lesbian " ... but I think she *wants* to reclaim the d-word.

>

> Janey wrote:

> >

> > I don't like the word *dyke*. Isn't there a better alternative?!

> >

> > Janey

> > x

> > >

> > > serene, big ol' vegan dyke

> > > --

> >

>

> --

> Ian McDonald

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Dr Ian McDonald wrote:

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> There's " Lesbian " ... but I think she *wants* to reclaim the d-word.

>

 

Well, in my case, " Lesbian " is inaccurate. I'm bi, so Lesbian

doesn't work. But thank you. I often call myself queer or dyke,

but that's not to piss people off (or not *only* to piss people off,

anyway. *grin*) It's mostly because the words that exist don't

include me. I'm not gay or lesbian. I could write " bi woman " all

the time, but dyke is kinda fun in a punky kind of way, so I like

it. Plus, my girlfriend is a lesbian, so when talking about both of

us, the choices are " Who are those two fat dykes? " or " Who are that

fat lesbian and bi woman? " (See serene. See cute-poet-chick. See

serene make fun of herself and cute-poet-chick. :-)

 

Just a note: I'm grateful that y'all have welcomed me and allowed

for this discussion. I didn't intend to hijack the list with the

topic of queerness, but I appreciate being heard. I have found

vegans to be some of the most loving and inclusive people in my

life, and I think many here confirm that personal observation.

 

serene, who owns a t-shirt that says " I'm not a lesbian, but my

girlfriend is. " ;-)

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serene wrote:

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> Dr Ian McDonald wrote:

> >

> > There's " Lesbian " ... but I think she *wants* to reclaim the d-word.

> >

>

> Well, in my case, " Lesbian " is inaccurate. I'm bi, so Lesbian

> doesn't work.

 

Yay! Sometimes, bi's get the prejudice from both sides, so it's harder

to be an " out " bi. Or so I hear.

 

> serene, who owns a t-shirt that says " I'm not a lesbian, but my

> girlfriend is. " ;-)

 

Now that's funny :).

 

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Dr Ian McDonald wrote:

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> serene wrote:

> >

> > Dr Ian McDonald wrote:

> > >

> > > There's " Lesbian " ... but I think she *wants* to reclaim the d-word.

> > >

> >

> > Well, in my case, " Lesbian " is inaccurate. I'm bi, so Lesbian

> > doesn't work.

>

> Yay! Sometimes, bi's get the prejudice from both sides, so it's harder

> to be an " out " bi. Or so I hear.

 

Kinda like being a lacto-ovo vegetarian, I had a friend tell me. To

most of the world, she's a fringe radical who doesn't eat their holy

meat-and-potatoes, and to the vegans, she's often seen as not

vegetarian enough. Sometimes ya can't win. :-)

 

I feel that way sometimes, but certainly any hostility bi people

experience from people within the gay community pales in comparison

with the sheer volume of homophobia directed at GLBT people

worldwide, so one tries not to whine too much. :-)

 

(If my own experience counts, I see it this way: There are issues

of heterocentrism and privilege in the straight world and, to a

degree, some hostility (mild to severe) towards bi people in the gay

community. Personally, I would rather be mistaken for a lesbian

than for a straight woman, but others feel differently. I do

correct people when they assume, but I don't feel personally

offended if someone assumes that (a) I'm straight (after all, most

people are) or (b) I'm gay (after all, my current partner and some

of my former partners are women). I'm also polyamorous (see

http://www.polyamory.org if that's a new term), and I correct people

when they reveal to me that they assume I'm monogamous. It's all

about visibility to me. If people don't *know* any GLBT or poly

people, how will they have any idea that we're not big scary

monsters?)

 

>

> > serene, who owns a t-shirt that says " I'm not a lesbian, but my

> > girlfriend is. " ;-)

>

> Now that's funny :).

 

:-) My current favorite slogan is " I'll be post-feminist in the

post-patriarchy " , but I probably shouldn't stir up another can of

worms.

 

serene

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We allow anything really as long as it is not a direct offensive attack on

someone. We don't take kindly to animal eaters tho' !!!!

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" serene " <sandravannoy

 

Friday, January 04, 2002 11:47 PM

Re: OT Dyke

 

I> Just a note: I'm grateful that y'all have welcomed me and allowed

> for this discussion. I didn't intend to hijack the list with the

> topic of queerness, but I appreciate being heard. I have found

> vegans to be some of the most loving and inclusive people in my

> life, and I think many here confirm that personal observation.

>

> serene, who owns a t-shirt that says " I'm not a lesbian, but my

> girlfriend is. " ;-)

> --

> " I am a sexual moth, thank you very much. " - Mr. Cow

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

>

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Hi Serene

 

> Kinda like being a lacto-ovo vegetarian, I had a friend tell me. To

> most of the world, she's a fringe radical who doesn't eat their holy

> meat-and-potatoes, and to the vegans, she's often seen as not

> vegetarian enough. Sometimes ya can't win. :-)

 

Funnily enough, I find that there's more dislike from ovo-lactos toward

vegans - it seems (at least as far as I can see) that vegans tend to think

that vegetarians are at least doing something in the right direction, while

vegetarians seem to do to vegans what meat eaters do to vegetarians - on the

Vegetarian Society list, all you need to do is mention that you're vegan (or

even have vegan relatives) and you get all sorts of replies complaining

about how righteous vegans are!!! Sorry - it's something that winds me up a

bit!

 

BB

Peter

 

 

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Serene

 

With regard to the word 'queer' - when I was young this word was considered

an insult (rather like 'nigger'). Has it always been considered okay by the

homosexual/bisexual population, or has it been adopted more recently as

being acceptable?

 

Jo

 

> Well, in my case, " Lesbian " is inaccurate. I'm bi, so Lesbian

> doesn't work. But thank you. I often call myself queer or dyke,

> but that's not to piss people off (or not *only* to piss people off,

> anyway. *grin*) It's mostly because the words that exist don't

> include me. I'm not gay or lesbian. I could write " bi woman " all

> the time, but dyke is kinda fun in a punky kind of way, so I like

> it. Plus, my girlfriend is a lesbian, so when talking about both of

> us, the choices are " Who are those two fat dykes? " or " Who are that

> fat lesbian and bi woman? " (See serene. See cute-poet-chick. See

> serene make fun of herself and cute-poet-chick. :-)

>

> Just a note: I'm grateful that y'all have welcomed me and allowed

> for this discussion. I didn't intend to hijack the list with the

> topic of queerness, but I appreciate being heard. I have found

> vegans to be some of the most loving and inclusive people in my

> life, and I think many here confirm that personal observation.

>

> serene, who owns a t-shirt that says " I'm not a lesbian, but my

> girlfriend is. " ;-)

> --

> " I am a sexual moth, thank you very much. " - Mr. Cow

>

>

>

>

> To send an email to -

>

>

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In a message dated 1/4/02 5:59:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sandravannoy writes:

 

<< " I am a sexual moth, thank you very much. " - Mr. Cow >>

ok..gonna change the subject here a bit...serene..wot in bacchus does this

mean?? mr cow??

*lost*

i know a man-eating cow....

fraggle

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EBbrewpunx wrote:

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> In a message dated 1/4/02 5:59:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> sandravannoy writes:

>

> << " I am a sexual moth, thank you very much. " - Mr. Cow >>

> ok..gonna change the subject here a bit...serene..wot in bacchus does this

> mean?? mr cow??

> *lost*

> i know a man-eating cow....

> fraggle

 

I have a friend whose name anagrams to " Naked Magic Cow " , so he

calls himself Mr. Cow sometimes. Someone asked him if all bi people

are sexual butterflies, and that was his answer. It amuses me.

 

serene

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I'm heading out to dinner, but I just wanted to say quickly that:

 

-- Janey, I don't think you're a homophobe. I had a problem with

something you said, I told you, you apologized and explained, and

now everything is fine.

 

-- I'm not sitting back and laughing at anyone but myself for

getting offended too easily.

 

serene

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In a message dated 1/5/02 5:45:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,

sandravannoy writes:

 

<<

I have a friend whose name anagrams to " Naked Magic Cow " , so he

calls himself Mr. Cow sometimes. Someone asked him if all bi people

are sexual butterflies, and that was his answer. It amuses me.

>>

 

thank you..clears it up..and tis funny also

:)

fraggle

*more of a social noseeum*

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