Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 Hi Lala Welcome to ! :-) > On all these websites they > only talk about whole grain breads, but they don't say if i can eat > white bread or not. I heard somewhere that soft breads have milk or > something in them, so is that why or is it just a health thing? As far as I know, bread is usually OK - although quite a lot of the " factory produced " stuff is cooked in trays which are also used for cooking non-vegan cakes and stuff, so some vegans will avoid those because of " contamination " worries. I must admit that I am not sure of this - as I have a wheat allergy, I have to get spelt bread from the local Maison Blanc - and I know that the stuff I get is vegan! If in doubt, try to get hold of " The Animal Free Shopper " from the Vegan Society - it tells you which makes of bread (and just about everything else) are OK! > And > also, how often do i need to take b12 supplements? I'm sure others will give you a better answer than I can, but my understanding is that the body stores B12 pretty well. Personally, I have a bowl of kellogs cornflakes with plamil about 4 times a week - this gives me about 4 times as much B12 than is vitally necessary! > and honey and sugar are not vegan, right? Honey is definitely not vegan. Sugar is mostly vegan, but I believe there are some makes which are processed using animal bits! Someone else help here, please! > well > please help because i don't know any vegans. You do now! :-) You mentioned you've only just turned vegan - have you been vegetarian for a while, or have you gone straight from meat-eating? BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release 02/01/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 lcindigo wrote: > > okay i'm 16 and i've only been vegan for a month so this might sound > kind of stupid, but i'll ask anyways. On all these websites they > only talk about whole grain breads, but they don't say if i can eat > white bread or not. I heard somewhere that soft breads have milk or > something in them, so is that why or is it just a health thing? A health thing. Some white breads have milk added - check the ingredients. Generally, white bread is OK. > And > also, how often do i need to take b12 supplements? i've heard every > day to twice a week? It depends on the size of the B12 supplement. vegansociety.org has a good briefing on B12. The bigger, the less often .. but a weekly dose has to be disproportionately big in order for enough to be absorbed. > and honey and sugar are not vegan, right? well Honey isn't vegan because it comes from bees. Although some people at the edges of veganism eat honey anyway ... it was one of the last things I dropped. > please help because i don't know any vegans. Stick on in there, and think more on the suffering you're refusing to be part of by avoiding bulk animal products than on getting read of every last detail. All IMHO. > -lala > -- Ian McDonald http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/alternative.html http://travel.to/startrekcolony - Star Trek: Colony site & .mov http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/who-rpg.html - Dr. Who RPGs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 I don't take B12 supplements (vegan35 years) Just eat marmite sometimes Read the labels on the white breab you can eat white if you prefer it . I often do Honey is made by bees for bees so it is not vegan Sugar may be produced using bone charcoal (silver spoon) Tate and Lyle do experiments on animals to test sucralose an artificial sugar so I won't buy that Billingtons sugar I think is Ok Not sure cos I don't use sugar Where do you live Good Luck and well done for going vegan at such a young age Angie - " lcindigo " <dougsfeistylover Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:35 AM i'm confused > okay i'm 16 and i've only been vegan for a month so this might sound > kind of stupid, but i'll ask anyways. On all these websites they > only talk about whole grain breads, but they don't say if i can eat > white bread or not. I heard somewhere that soft breads have milk or > something in them, so is that why or is it just a health thing? And > also, how often do i need to take b12 supplements? i've heard every > day to twice a week? and honey and sugar are not vegan, right? well > please help because i don't know any vegans. > -lala > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 nuthin is stoopid..we all need to question white sugar often is not vegan...produced with bone char.... ick! fraggle " lcindigo " <dougsfeistylover wrote: >okay i'm 16 and i've only been vegan for a month so this might sound >kind of stupid, but i'll ask anyways. On all these websites they >only talk about whole grain breads, but they don't say if i can eat >white bread or not. I heard somewhere that soft breads have milk or >something in them, so is that why or is it just a health thing? And >also, how often do i need to take b12 supplements? i've heard every >day to twice a week? and honey and sugar are not vegan, right? well >please help because i don't know any vegans. >-lala > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2002 Report Share Posted January 17, 2002 What exactly is spelt bread ? I bought some as it was 1/2 price in my HFS. It tasted fine when I tried it with my new bread maker Angie - " Peter " <Snowbow Thursday, January 17, 2002 5:43 PM Re: i'm confused > > - as I have a wheat > allergy, I have to get spelt bread from the local Maison Blanc - and I know > that the stuff I get is vegan! If in doubt, try to get hold of " The Animal > Free Shopper " from the Vegan Society -> > > >> > > --- (> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 spelt is a species of wheat which has been around for several hundred years more popular in europe then in the americas it apparantly needs slightly less water then regular wheat flour to process, but, other then that..don't know much about it emmer wheat is often mistakenly called spelt fraggle " Angie Wright " <angiewright wrote: >What exactly is spelt bread ? I bought some as it was 1/2 price in my >HFS. It tasted fine when I tried it with my new bread maker > Angie > >- > " Peter " <Snowbow > >Thursday, January 17, 2002 5:43 PM >Re: i'm confused > > >> >> - as I have a wheat >> allergy, I have to get spelt bread from the local Maison Blanc - and I >know >> that the stuff I get is vegan! If in doubt, try to get hold of " The Animal >> Free Shopper " from the Vegan Society -> >> > >>> >> >> --- >(> > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Angie / Fraggle Spelt is an 'original' grain (not modified by breeding or genetics). I have spelt bread from Maison Blanc - the only baker in the UK to use spelt flour in all their breads. Colin also makes spelt bread in the breadmaking machine. It needs less proving time than normal bread flour, but works just fine if you add a crushed vitamin c tablet. The reason I have spelt is because I am intolerant of normal flour, as a lot of people are. Spelt is more easily tolerated. Jo -- " All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. " - Arthur Schopenhauer - <EBbrewpunx Friday, January 18, 2002 12:29 AM RE: Re: i'm confused > spelt is a species of wheat which has been around for several hundred years > more popular in europe then in the americas > it apparantly needs slightly less water then regular wheat flour to process, but, other then that..don't know much about it > emmer wheat is often mistakenly called spelt > fraggle > > > " Angie Wright " <angiewright wrote: > > >What exactly is spelt bread ? I bought some as it was 1/2 price in my > >HFS. It tasted fine when I tried it with my new bread maker > > Angie > > > >- > > " Peter " <Snowbow > > > >Thursday, January 17, 2002 5:43 PM > >Re: i'm confused > > > > > >> > >> - as I have a wheat > >> allergy, I have to get spelt bread from the local Maison Blanc - and I > >know > >> that the stuff I get is vegan! If in doubt, try to get hold of " The Animal > >> Free Shopper " from the Vegan Society -> > >> > > >>> > >> > >> --- > >(> > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Thanke Fraggle I thought it was still wheat Why would someone with a wheat allergy be able to eat spelt bread then Confused ------Peter ?????? Angie - <EBbrewpunx Friday, January 18, 2002 12:29 AM RE: Re: i'm confused > spelt is a species of wheat which has been around for several hundred years > more popular in europe then in the americas > it apparantly needs slightly less water then regular wheat flour to process, but, other then that..don't know much about it > emmer wheat is often mistakenly called spelt > fraggle > > > " Angie Wright " <angiewright wrote: > > >What exactly is spelt bread ? I bought some as it was 1/2 price in my > >HFS. It tasted fine when I tried it with my new bread maker > > Angie > > > >- > > " Peter " <Snowbow > > > >Thursday, January 17, 2002 5:43 PM > >Re: i'm confused > > > > > >> > >> - as I have a wheat > >> allergy, I have to get spelt bread from the local Maison Blanc - and I > >know > >> that the stuff I get is vegan! If in doubt, try to get hold of " The Animal > >> Free Shopper " from the Vegan Society -> > >> > > >>> > >> > >> --- > >(> > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Thanks Jo I don't use Vit C tablets (I think other stuff is in them I asked at the pharmacy for ascorbic acid Much cheaper and the pure stuff - " Jo " <Heartwork Friday, January 18, 2002 5:17 PM Re: Re: i'm confused > Angie / Fraggle > > Spelt is an 'original' grain (not modified by breeding or genetics). I have > spelt bread from Maison Blanc - the only baker in the UK to use spelt flour > in all their breads. Colin also makes spelt bread in the breadmaking > machine. It needs less proving time than normal bread flour, but works just > fine if you add a crushed vitamin c tablet. > > The reason I have spelt is because I am intolerant of normal flour, as a lot > of people are. Spelt is more easily tolerated. > > Jo > > -- > " All truth passes through 3 stages. > First, it is ridiculed. > Second, it is violently opposed. > Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. " > - Arthur Schopenhauer > > - > <EBbrewpunx > > Friday, January 18, 2002 12:29 AM > RE: Re: i'm confused > > > > spelt is a species of wheat which has been around for several hundred > years > > more popular in europe then in the americas > > it apparantly needs slightly less water then regular wheat flour to > process, but, other then that..don't know much about it > > emmer wheat is often mistakenly called spelt > > fraggle > > > > > > " Angie Wright " <angiewright wrote: > > > > >What exactly is spelt bread ? I bought some as it was 1/2 price in my > > >HFS. It tasted fine when I tried it with my new bread maker > > > Angie > > > > > >- > > > " Peter " <Snowbow > > > > > >Thursday, January 17, 2002 5:43 PM > > >Re: i'm confused > > > > > > > > >> > > >> - as I have a wheat > > >> allergy, I have to get spelt bread from the local Maison Blanc - and I > > >know > > >> that the stuff I get is vegan! If in doubt, try to get hold of " The > Animal > > >> Free Shopper " from the Vegan Society -> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > >> --- > > >(> > > > > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Hi Angie > Why would someone with a wheat allergy be able to eat spelt bread then > Confused ------Peter ?????? Because wheat and spelt are different plants - a bit like someone with an apple allergy can eat bananas, or someone who's lactose intolerant can drink soya milk! :-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release 02/01/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 In a message dated 1/18/02 1:47:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, angiewright writes: << Thanke Fraggle I thought it was still wheat Why would someone with a wheat allergy be able to eat spelt bread then Confused ------Peter ?????? Angie >> spelt is wheat..just a different variety then is typically used in breads..i believe that is summer red or winter red wheat kamut is a wheat emmer is a wheat just different versions..... fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 Ah ! I thought someone said that spelt was still wheat I shall use it for my bread maker as I think I eat too much wheat anyway Angie - " Peter " <Snowbow Friday, January 18, 2002 11:26 PM Re: Re: i'm confused > Hi Angie > > > Why would someone with a wheat allergy be able to eat spelt bread then > > Confused ------Peter ?????? > > Because wheat and spelt are different plants - a bit like someone with an > apple allergy can eat bananas, or someone who's lactose intolerant can drink > soya milk! :-) > > BB > Peter > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release 02/01/02 > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 In a message dated 1/18/02 3:33:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, Snowbow writes: << Because wheat and spelt are different plants - a bit like someone with an apple allergy can eat bananas, or someone who's lactose intolerant can drink soya milk! :-) >> actually..they are both wheats... how do i always get intot hese discussions on this site i'll never know...(or why i know this crap either)..they are both triticum(sic?) spelt originated in iran and spread to europe centuries ago..it was grown all over the roman empire most wheats grown today are red wheats, which is a different species... spelt apparantly has some some of the same characteristics of oats, tho, heck if i remember er know wot they are ok..me needs to go shave me noggin and shower... damn its still cold here!!! yuck!!! fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 Hi Fraggle > spelt is wheat..just a different variety then is typically used in breads..i " Wheat " covers a variety of different grains - the most " popular " one is generally called just " wheat " but I'm sure it also has a proper name. Therefore spelt is a different grain to what is commonly referred to as wheat!!! BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release 02/01/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 There is a lot to this wheat stuff ! Angie - <EBbrewpunx Saturday, January 19, 2002 3:59 PM Re: i'm confused > In a message dated 1/18/02 1:47:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, > angiewright writes: > > > > spelt is wheat..just a different variety then is typically used in breads..i > believe that is summer red or winter red wheat > kamut is a wheat > emmer is a wheat > just different versions..... > fraggle > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2002 Report Share Posted January 19, 2002 fraggle, your knowledge of wheat amazes me!?! (it must be good for answering the wheat questions in pub quizzes) Shelloid - EBbrewpunx Saturday, January 19, 2002 5:24 PM Re: i'm confused In a message dated 1/18/02 3:33:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, Snowbow writes:<< Because wheat and spelt are different plants - a bit like someone with anapple allergy can eat bananas, or someone who's lactose intolerant can drinksoya milk! :-) >>actually..they are both wheats...how do i always get intot hese discussions on this site i'll never know...(or why i know this crap either)..they are both triticum(sic?)spelt originated in iran and spread to europe centuries ago..it was grown all over the roman empiremost wheats grown today are red wheats, which is a different species...spelt apparantly has some some of the same characteristics of oats, tho, heck if i remember er know wot they areok..me needs to go shave me noggin and shower...damn its still cold here!!! yuck!!!fraggleTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2002 Report Share Posted January 20, 2002 Angie Isn't wheat grass? Jo > There is a lot to this wheat stuff ! Angie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release 02/01/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2002 Report Share Posted January 20, 2002 Wheat ,oats ,rye.etc I think they are all grasses Angie - " Jo " <Heartwork Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:08 PM Re: i'm confused > Angie > > Isn't wheat grass? > > Jo > > > > There is a lot to this wheat stuff ! Angie > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release 02/01/02 > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 *shrugs* i have a weird brain, and i rememeber the dumbest things but, thank you tho and, i get clobbered in pub quizzes once they hit the sports and celebrity people part of the quiz oh well cheers and happy MLK jr day fraggle " shelloid " <shelloid wrote: >fraggle, your knowledge of wheat amazes me!?! >(it must be good for answering the wheat questions in pub quizzes) >Shelloid > - > EBbrewpunx > > Saturday, January 19, 2002 5:24 PM > Re: i'm confused > > > In a message dated 1/18/02 3:33:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, > Snowbow writes: > > << > Because wheat and spelt are different plants - a bit like someone with an > apple allergy can eat bananas, or someone who's lactose intolerant can drink > soya milk! :-) >> > > actually..they are both wheats... > how do i always get intot hese discussions on this site i'll never know...(or > why i know this crap either)..they are both triticum(sic?) > spelt originated in iran and spread to europe centuries ago..it was grown all > over the roman empire > most wheats grown today are red wheats, which is a different species... > spelt apparantly has some some of the same characteristics of oats, tho, heck > if i remember er know wot they are > ok..me needs to go shave me noggin and shower... > damn its still cold here!!! yuck!!! > fraggle > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 yes, barley, wheat, oats, are all memebers of the grass family " Angie Wright " <angiewright wrote: >Wheat ,oats ,rye.etc I think they are all grasses > Angie > >- > " Jo " <Heartwork > >Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:08 PM >Re: i'm confused > > >> Angie >> >> Isn't wheat grass? >> >> Jo >> >> >> > There is a lot to this wheat stuff ! Angie >> >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release 02/01/02 >> >> >> >> To send an email to - >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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