Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 Anyone going to the CIWF Rally in London thiis Sat ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 I'm planning to. -- Ian McDonald http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 I'm not. CIWF are a step in the right direction, but any organisation that thinks eating animals is OK so long as you're nice to them first is never going to be top of my priority list. It would cost me about £20 to go and that £20 can be put to better use! Good luck to those who go. Cheers Cathy ps anyone know anything about hamsters? - Angie Wright Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:59 PM Re:CIWF Anyone going to the CIWF Rally in London thiis Sat ? Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 I'll look out for you Angie - " Dr Ian McDonald " <ian Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:11 PM Re: Re:CIWF > I'm planning to. > > -- > Ian McDonald > > http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 What do you need to know about hamsters? I can look all sorts of things up at work... Cheers Viv "You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji" www.veganvillage.co.uk www.vegansociety.com http://VEGAN-info.com/index.htm Cathy Jupp (BR) [cjbr]Tuesday, February 05, 2002 10:17 PM Subject: Re: Re:CIWF I'm not. CIWF are a step in the right direction, but any organisation that thinks eating animals is OK so long as you're nice to them first is never going to be top of my priority list. It would cost me about £20 to go and that £20 can be put to better use! Good luck to those who go. Cheers Cathy ps anyone know anything about hamsters? - Angie Wright Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:59 PM Re:CIWF Anyone going to the CIWF Rally in London thiis Sat ? AngieTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 The great thing for CiWF, IMHO, is that their aims are achievable. I'm not going to stop them eating animals in my lifetime. One century, yes, but not my lifetime. But organisations like CiWF, whose leaders are vegan, BTW, stand more chance of making a difference. -- Ian McDonald http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 I can't make it unfortunately. Angie I'm impressed that you come down from Nottingham. I guess thats further for you to travel than Torbay so I really should make the effort! Janey x > I'll look out for you Angie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 Also a good turn out will bring the issues to more people . Some people will think and some will decide a bigger cage is not good enough and they may stop eating animals altogether . But if one has to choose SHAC etc would be my priority - " Dr Ian McDonald " <ian Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:05 PM Re: Re:CIWF > The great thing for CiWF, IMHO, is that their aims are achievable. I'm > not going to stop them eating animals in my lifetime. One century, yes, > but not my lifetime. But organisations like CiWF, whose leaders are > vegan, BTW, stand more chance of making a difference. > > -- > Ian McDonald > > http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 I'll either come down with Veggies (we cater at Demos -none profit making but is pays for the petrol) or I'll be en route to visit my son in Brighton . so I'll be killing two vivisectors with one knife as the saying goes !!! Angie - " Janey " <jane.cuming Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:11 PM Re: Re:CIWF > I can't make it unfortunately. Angie I'm impressed that you come down from > Nottingham. I guess thats further for you to travel than Torbay so I really > should make the effort! > > Janey > x > > > > I'll look out for you Angie > > > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 I would llike to make something clear, in case I haven't already. I admire and respect CIWF and if they were the only animal group I would be there with bells on. In fact, if I lived in London I would go anyway because it is obvious to anyone that on the hook is preferable to on the hoof. Anyone who has ever had an Animals' Angels newsletter can be in no doubt of that! Like everyone else, I have to choose. Unlike Ian, I do think that a massive reduction in the consumption of animals is achievable in the shorter term, more so now than ever, which is why I put my money and efforts into organisations such as Viva!, who help and encourage people to become veggie/vegan, rather than CIWF, wonderful though their work is. I know the people who work there are predominantly vegan. I just wish that their message had even a little of the veggie about it. Cathy - Dr Ian McDonald Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:05 PM Re: Re:CIWF The great thing for CiWF, IMHO, is that their aims are achievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 FWIW, their supporters newsletter does have an 'ethical consumer' column which takes a reduction in meat and dairy eating (as well as switching to organic suppliers, okay) for granted as an aim. ---- Cathy ---- I just wish that their message had even a little of the veggie about it. -- Ian McDonald http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 sure! can i get a ride?? maybe you should leave now to pick me up tho i'll be waiting outside *skips to wait outside* heck, i'm having trouble finding a ride to the vegfair this weekend in san jose, and thats only in the south bay.... fraggle " Angie Wright " <angiewright wrote: >Anyone going to the CIWF Rally in London thiis Sat ? >Angie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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