Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 At the risk of pouring oil onto the flames (as it were) - does anyone else suspect that their vegan/environmental sentiments are being abused by specialist manufacturers/suppliers? Vegan shoes cost huge amounts - I don't know whether the cost is justified or not, but I wonder. Also, I have just purchased a set of Eco-Balls as I hope that they are even less environmentally destructive than Ecover washing products. They cost thirty pounds and I would be surprised if they even cost three to produce. I understand that if they work as claimed I will make a saving over time, but I don't see that as an excuse for what I believe to be such a huge markup. If the manufacturer really cares about the environment, then surely they would be doing all in their power to keep the price low so that more peope would buy them. I could cite other examples - it just seems to me that if anything has a "vegan" or "environmentally sound" tag on it, it automatically costs a great deal more, whether or not it appears to be more expensive to produce. Cathy - Adam Wilson How about some support for your fellow vegans who are tryingto make a real contribution to this world by creating vegan options,such as shoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 I'm sure they are in it for the money and will charge the highest price they can get . Wait a while and the price will come down . Angie - Cathy Jupp (BR) Wednesday, February 13, 2002 10:02 AM Re: Re: vegan products cost lots At the risk of pouring oil onto the flames (as it were) - does anyone else suspect that their vegan/environmental sentiments are being abused by specialist manufacturers/suppliers? Vegan shoes cost huge amounts - I don't know whether the cost is justified or not, but I wonder. Also, I have just purchased a set of Eco-Balls as I hope that they are even less environmentally destructive than Ecover washing products. They cost thirty pounds and I would be surprised if they even cost three to produce. I understand that if they work as claimed I will make a saving over time, but I don't see that as an excuse for what I believe to be such a huge markup. If the manufacturer really cares about the environment, then surely they would be doing all in their power to keep the price low so that more peope would buy them. I could cite other examples - it just seems to me that if anything has a "vegan" or "environmentally sound" tag on it, it automatically costs a great deal more, whether or not it appears to be more expensive to produce. Cathy - Adam Wilson How about some support for your fellow vegans who are tryingto make a real contribution to this world by creating vegan options,such as shoesTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 Cathy, you are quite right - vegan products do often cost more than their non-vegan counterparts. However, the reason is not greed on behalf of the vegan manufactures. We have been conditioned to believe that products cost much less than they do by large multi-national corporations. These corporations utilize the cheapest labour available - often in poor countries where workers may earn as much per day as we are accustomed to earning per hour. These large corporations also produce an incomparably larger quantity of goods than the vegan (or environmentally friendly) companies do. Hence, the large corporations benefit from what economists call "economies of scale". In a nut shell, economies of scale basically means that because fixed costs of production are fixed, by producing high quantities of product, the cost PER product can be reduced (the fixed costs are divided among all the products produced). However, many vegan and environmentally friendly companies are quite small - unfortunately the demand for their products is not nearly as large as for non-vegan products. Yet, these companies still must incur the same fixed costs as other manufactures, and these fixed costs must be divided among a smaller number of products produced. So vegan and environmentally friendly products really do often cost much more to produce than their traditional counterparts. The only way for this problem to be solved is for more vegans to demand their products - eventually these companies will benefit from economies of scale as well. Hope that helps. Best Adam Cathy Jupp (BR) [cjbr]Wednesday, February 13, 2002 5:03 AM Subject: Re: Re: vegan products cost lots At the risk of pouring oil onto the flames (as it were) - does anyone else suspect that their vegan/environmental sentiments are being abused by specialist manufacturers/suppliers? Vegan shoes cost huge amounts - I don't know whether the cost is justified or not, but I wonder. Also, I have just purchased a set of Eco-Balls as I hope that they are even less environmentally destructive than Ecover washing products. They cost thirty pounds and I would be surprised if they even cost three to produce. I understand that if they work as claimed I will make a saving over time, but I don't see that as an excuse for what I believe to be such a huge markup. If the manufacturer really cares about the environment, then surely they would be doing all in their power to keep the price low so that more peope would buy them. I could cite other examples - it just seems to me that if anything has a "vegan" or "environmentally sound" tag on it, it automatically costs a great deal more, whether or not it appears to be more expensive to produce. Cathy - Adam Wilson How about some support for your fellow vegans who are tryingto make a real contribution to this world by creating vegan options,such as shoesTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2002 Report Share Posted February 13, 2002 Of course it's more expensive! Same reason we "should" eat organic veg. If we're spending all our money trying just to exist we've got less to cause trouble with! And if the Eco-balls are similar to the ones I tried they were okay but only lasted for about 5 washes and not the 50 "claimed"... Cheers Viv "You'll Never Walk Alone with a Basenji" www.veganvillage.co.uk www.vegansociety.com http://VEGAN-info.com/index.htm Cathy Jupp (BR) [cjbr]Wednesday, February 13, 2002 10:03 AM Subject: Re: Re: vegan products cost lots At the risk of pouring oil onto the flames (as it were) - does anyone else suspect that their vegan/environmental sentiments are being abused by specialist manufacturers/suppliers? Vegan shoes cost huge amounts - I don't know whether the cost is justified or not, but I wonder. Also, I have just purchased a set of Eco-Balls as I hope that they are even less environmentally destructive than Ecover washing products. They cost thirty pounds and I would be surprised if they even cost three to produce. I understand that if they work as claimed I will make a saving over time, but I don't see that as an excuse for what I believe to be such a huge markup. If the manufacturer really cares about the environment, then surely they would be doing all in their power to keep the price low so that more peope would buy them. I could cite other examples - it just seems to me that if anything has a "vegan" or "environmentally sound" tag on it, it automatically costs a great deal more, whether or not it appears to be more expensive to produce. Cathy - Adam Wilson How about some support for your fellow vegans who are tryingto make a real contribution to this world by creating vegan options,such as shoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2002 Report Share Posted February 14, 2002 Cathy This does seem to be the case. It is the same with organic food. I suppose the manufacturers know that 'fussy' people are going to pay up anyway. Jo At the risk of pouring oil onto the flames (as it were) - does anyone else suspect that their vegan/environmental sentiments are being abused by specialist manufacturers/suppliers? Vegan shoes cost huge amounts - I don't know whether the cost is justified or not, but I wonder. Also, I have just purchased a set of Eco-Balls as I hope that they are even less environmentally destructive than Ecover washing products. They cost thirty pounds and I would be surprised if they even cost three to produce. I understand that if they work as claimed I will make a saving over time, but I don't see that as an excuse for what I believe to be such a huge markup. If the manufacturer really cares about the environment, then surely they would be doing all in their power to keep the price low so that more peope would buy them. I could cite other examples - it just seems to me that if anything has a "vegan" or "environmentally sound" tag on it, it automatically costs a great deal more, whether or not it appears to be more expensive to produce. Cathy ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release 08/02/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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