Guest guest Posted July 13, 2002 Report Share Posted July 13, 2002 Hi everyone Could I request a truce on the marrying meaties and cats issues? I think that we've now reached the point where everyone has had their say, and we're just going round in circles. I don't want to prevent discussion, but we're now just going round in circles and the number of e-mails are multiplying exponentially - in the space of 8 hours, almost 100 have come in about just these two topics!!! There's plenty of other stuff to chat about, so can we just accept that everyone has had their say, and move on? BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release 20/06/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2002 Report Share Posted July 13, 2002 Has everyone had their say? Have we exhausted these two subjects? Both are close to my heart. I own cats and I am married to a meat eater. Therefore I am interested in these two subjects and if people have further input then I am happy to listen and debate. Thanks all the same Peter. Janey x - Peter Saturday, July 13, 2002 9:32 AM Keep calm everyone Hi everyone Could I request a truce on the marrying meaties and cats issues? I think that we've now reached the point where everyone has had their say, and we're just going round in circles. I don't want to prevent discussion, but we're now just going round in circles and the number of e-mails are multiplying exponentially - in the space of 8 hours, almost 100 have come in about just these two topics!!! There's plenty of other stuff to chat about, so can we just accept that everyone has had their say, and move on? BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release 20/06/02To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2002 Report Share Posted July 13, 2002 Janey > Has everyone had their say? > Have we exhausted these two subjects? > Therefore I am interested in these two subjects and if people have further input then I am happy to listen and debate. Judging by the number of off-list e-mails I have received, you are in a very small minority. People have requested to me, as moderator, that I stop these debates, as they are causing a lot of unrest and unhappiness. As I do not like the idea of censorship, I am asking politely that everyone drops these subjects - but if my polite attempts are ignored, then I may have to make an unpleasant decision which will benefit the majority on the list over one or two members. I hope that's clear. Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release 20/06/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 > Peter wrote: > > Judging by the number of off-list e-mails I have received, you are in > a very small minority. > > People have requested to me, as moderator, that > I stop these debates, as they are causing a lot of unrest and > unhappiness. As I do not like the idea of censorship, I am asking > politely that everyone drops these subjects - but if my polite > attempts are ignored, then I may have to make an unpleasant decision > which will benefit the majority on the list over one or two members. > > I hope that's clear. > > Peter > It's clear. You think that asking people to stop talking about something, in a way that implies they have a choice is not censorship, even when you are also saying that if they do not excercise their choice the way you want them to, you're going to censor the topic. If you've decided to stop people talking about the topic, then you're decided to censor it. Sometimes, that can be the right decision. But please don't pretend that censorship isn't censorship. Personally, I'd like the married meaties thread to go on. I can ignore the cats thread fine, so don't have a problem with it. -- Ian McDonald http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Ian > Personally, I'd like the married meaties thread to go on. Then I would suggest you take it up again on vegan network where it started. I have noticed that there is a tendency when more strict moderators than myself ban people, those banned tend to start the same argument up over here. This list is not an overflow for baggage from other lists. In the vain of my previous post, you are clearly incapable of following the basic rule, and have, once again, attacked me on list. I have therefore put you on moderation, as I will to anybody else who attacks me or anybody else on the list. If you continue to do so, you will be banned. Maybe only this action will prevent an exodus. In the past 48 hours, 15 people have left the list because of these attacks, and that is why they will stop one way or the other. Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release 21/06/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Actually no-one can take up anything contentious at all on Vegan-network because John bans people quite arbitrarily without any good reason, so that list is a joke, no-one can be honest, and I believe I am on a life ban (look at the homepage, says it is Lesley Dove free which is unfair and downright vicious - I know no other moderator who would behave like that) and usually the overflow tends to go to VegansUncensored because although you are usually pretty tolerant here, Michael is even more tolerant in the running of his list. I think Janey is one of the least offensive people around actually, I'm surprised you have felt you needed to moderate her. Lesley Peter [snowbow]14 July 2002 01:27 Subject: Re: Keep calm everyoneIan> Personally, I'd like the married meaties thread to go on.Then I would suggest you take it up again on vegan network where it started.I have noticed that there is a tendency when more strict moderators thanmyself ban people, those banned tend to start the same argument up overhere. This list is not an overflow for baggage from other lists.In the vain of my previous post, you are clearly incapable of following thebasic rule, and have, once again, attacked me on list. I have therefore putyou on moderation, as I will to anybody else who attacks me or anybody elseon the list. If you continue to do so, you will be banned. Maybe only thisaction will prevent an exodus. In the past 48 hours, 15 people have left thelist because of these attacks, and that is why they will stop one way or theother.Peter---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release 21/06/02To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 so, i haven't been online since friday...in box has 478 messages in it so, can i just erase everything and assume you kids just went round and round? *brakes into a horrid Ratt song* anything new and exciting said? blood spilled? an argument made so convincingly that i have to read it and it will change my life and will see the light, god herself will bathe me in her beauty and smile such radiance upon me that all shall become clear and i will realize the meaning of life and monty python will sue me and... or can i just assume you just said: "cats deserve to be free" "no that's irresponsible" ???? cheers fraggle In a message dated 7/13/02 1:32:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Snowbow writes: Could I request a truce on the marrying meaties and cats issues? I think that we've now reached the point where everyone has had their say, and we're just going round in circles. I don't want to prevent discussion, but we're now just going round in circles and the number of e-mails are multiplying exponentially - in the space of 8 hours, almost 100 have come in about just these two topics!!! There's plenty of other stuff to chat about, so can we just accept that everyone has had their say, and move on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 In a message dated 7/14/02 11:45:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, angiewright writes: Why expect our posts to be any more exciting/ life changing , than yours Fraggle ? one could aways hope couldn't they? you can't all be as boring as me.... i know, you save all yer good stuff fer some other secret chat site that i'm not invited to... fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Why expect our posts to be any more exciting/ life changing , than yours Fraggle ? EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx] 14 July 2002 19:11 Subject: Re: Keep calm everyoneanything new and exciting said? blood spilled? an argument made so convincingly that i have to read it and it will change my life and will see the light, god herself will bathe me in her beauty and smile such radiance upon me that all shall become clear and i will realize the meaning of life and monty python will sue me and...cheersfraggleTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 Hi Fraggle > *brakes into a horrid Ratt song* Aaarggghhh, no - please not Ratt... ;-) BB Peter ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.375 / Virus Database: 210 - Release 10/07/02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 B " H It's very rare that I buy an album for one song and even rarer when I do to hate the album. This happened with Ratt ;-) Debbie Hi Fraggle > *brakes into a horrid Ratt song* Aaarggghhh, no - please not Ratt... ;-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2002 Report Share Posted July 14, 2002 We were mostly having a grand ol' time talkin' about you whilst you were out bebauchin' yerself and God knows what else. Sos ye best read each and every of those 478 notes or ya won't know what we said or who said what! Kinda' juicy it was too! With tales of terror, mixed with some sex, and an occasional act of sheer blind indulgence. So get on wit' it and we'll see ya later then. We also had someone from the group follow ya and take pictures which by now have spread to the far corners of the globe. By the way, some outdoor cats peed on ya while you were sleepin' it off. - EBbrewpunx Sunday, July 14, 2002 2:10 PM Re: Keep calm everyone so, i haven't been online since friday...in box has 478 messages in itso, can i just erase everything and assume you kids just went round and round?*brakes into a horrid Ratt song*anything new and exciting said? blood spilled? an argument made so convincingly that i have to read it and it will change my life and will see the light, god herself will bathe me in her beauty and smile such radiance upon me that all shall become clear and i will realize the meaning of life and monty python will sue me and...or can i just assume you just said:"cats deserve to be free""no that's irresponsible"????:)cheersfraggleIn a message dated 7/13/02 1:32:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Snowbow writes: Could I request a truce on the marrying meaties and cats issues? I think that we've now reached the point where everyone has had their say, and we're just going round in circles. I don't want to prevent discussion, but we're now just going round in circles and the number of e-mails are multiplying exponentially - in the space of 8 hours, almost 100 have come in about just these two topics!!! There's plenty of other stuff to chat about, so can we just accept that everyone has had their say, and move on?To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2002 Report Share Posted July 15, 2002 sorry already deleted most of em damn.... bad me fraggle kiwi2000 <kiwi2000 wrote: >We were mostly having a grand ol' time talkin' about you whilst you were out bebauchin' yerself and God knows what else. >Sos ye best read each and every of those 478 notes or ya won't know what we said or who said what! Kinda' juicy it was too! >With tales of terror, mixed with some sex, and an occasional act of sheer blind indulgence. So get on wit' it and we'll see ya later then. >We also had someone from the group follow ya and take pictures which by now have spread to the far corners of the globe. >By the way, some outdoor cats peed on ya while you were sleepin' it off. > - > EBbrewpunx > > Sunday, July 14, 2002 2:10 PM > Re: Keep calm everyone > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2002 Report Share Posted July 21, 2002 Only 478? I've been away for a week and am trying to catch up on around 1600 messages. Lucky I've got a broadband connection. Think I might just have to delete most of them; sure I'll catch up soon - bit like the soaps really! Viv EBbrewpunx [EBbrewpunx]Sunday, July 14, 2002 7:11 PM Subject: Re: Keep calm everyoneso, i haven't been online since friday...in box has 478 messages in itso, can i just erase everything and assume you kids just went round and round?*brakes into a horrid Ratt song*anything new and exciting said? blood spilled? an argument made so convincingly that i have to read it and it will change my life and will see the light, god herself will bathe me in her beauty and smile such radiance upon me that all shall become clear and i will realize the meaning of life and monty python will sue me and...or can i just assume you just said:"cats deserve to be free""no that's irresponsible"????:)cheersfraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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