Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 You said: " Have a big salad with lots of dark green lettuce, much more that 1-2 cups more like 4-6 cups " I was wondering. Is it ok to eat 10 cups of greens a day? I am very new to raw and have been eating 8 cups of mixed baby greens and 2 cups of kale a day. I am worried I am eating too many greens. I do balance with about 5 servings of fruit, as well as some sour and salty tastes and a little oil. Also ... I know this is gross - sorry, but ... is it normal for your stool to turn green? I figured it was all the greens, but was worried maybe it meant I was eating too many. I just wanted to know if anyone else has experienced this. Thank you, nyia rawfood , " Bob & Breezi " <bobandbreezi@h...> wrote: > Vaberella wrote: > > " Well I ate until I was full and drank about 4 cups of water, and > rising. Let me show you what I ate so you can get an idea: > > 2 pears; 2 tangerines; kiwi > Salad: > 2 teaspoons Nama Shoyu > 1 tablespoon vinegar > 3 tablespoons olive oil --soaked onions in it > 1 tablespoon flaxseed oil > 1-2 cups romaine lettuce > 4 slices red onion > > 1 pear for breakfast; 2 tangerines for lunch; 1 pear for snack; > salad for dinner; and kiwi for desert. > > > Now when I counted my calories I only had about 977 calories, but I > am full. Can anyone tell me if I'm still on the right track, or > should I be eating more. > > Does anyone here follow the calorie counters? Monitor how much > their eating, make sure their getting their nutrients or above the > 1000 mark? I'm just a bit worried, can anyone let me know if it's > viable or not?! " > > > Hi Vaberella, > > Just my 2 cents here but you are definitely not eating enough good foods and > eating too much of the bad foods. First of all if you go back to Fitday and > look at what you ate that day you will see that you had a whooping 62% of > your calories from FAT, 35% of calories from carbs and 3% of your calories > from protein. There is difference of opinion out there as to the percentages > of carbs, protein & fat but 62% fat is way too much no matter which diet > your are following (this, by the way, is one of the biggest mistakes new raw > fooders make...me included). 1 tablespoon of oil, no matter which kind, is > 100% fat, 120 calories (all of those calories being FAT calories) and 14 > grams of fat. You had 4 tablespoons of oil that day and that was the bulk of > your calories for the day. Not much nutrition in oil. And it is going to be > impossible to lose weight eating over 10-20% fat a day not to mention just > plain being unhealthy. The oils you buy in the store are not raw. They are > processed at high temperatures (yes, even " cold pressed " ). Heated oils are > carcinogenic (cancer causing). You can buy " raw " oils but they are still > 100% fat. You get all the natural fat you need from fruits, veggies, nuts > and seeds. > > Try having a smoothie for breakfast (or dinner) made with almond milk and > bananas (or what ever fruit you like). For snacks you can eat fruit (some > people will tell you not to eat too much fruit....once again it is up to you > and how your own body handles it). Have a big salad with lots of dark green > lettuce, much more that 1-2 cups more like 4-6 cups. Add 1/2 avo, 2 med. > tomatoes or whatever else you like. But, keep it simple, no more than 3 or 4 > ingredients. Try and have 2 salads a day. You can even juice your salad or > put it in the blender to make a soup of it for variety. Miso & Nama Shoyu > are not food and are not good for the body (though many will argue this). > They are not raw they are processed. They are " live " but they are not raw. > They are way too salty and some even contain wheat which is mucus causing. > Vinegar is not a food but diluted acetic acid. > > You can also munch on raw nuts during the day if you are hungry but be > careful, they are very high in fat so this is where Fitday will come in > handy for you to see how you are doing on your fat intake. I don't think > most raw foodists count calories, I don't know any who do. You will, in > time, find what amounts and types of food are right for your body & will > lose the extra body fat eating a predominately raw diet (better at 100%). > You must, of course, exercise for optimum health not just to aid in weight > loss but it is a big plus. Get lots of sunshine, fresh air and very > important.....enough sleep. Just keep reading as much as you can to educate > yourself about this raw journey and never forget that we are all different > and what works for some may not work for others. Do what you feel > comfortable with......speaking of which....be sure to educate yourself about > " detox " so you are not blaming the raw diet (saying it made you sick or you > got " a bug going around " ) for not feeling good. Hope this helps a little. > Good luck, take care. Breezi > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 Nyia, Eat all the green leaves you feel like. They will not do you harm Peter nyia12 [eeyore_0_4] 15 March 2004 14:45 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Greens? You said: " Have a big salad with lots of dark green lettuce, much more that 1-2 cups more like 4-6 cups " I was wondering. Is it ok to eat 10 cups of greens a day? I am very new to raw and have been eating 8 cups of mixed baby greens and 2 cups of kale a day. I am worried I am eating too many greens. I do balance with about 5 servings of fruit, as well as some sour and salty tastes and a little oil. Also ... I know this is gross - sorry, but ... is it normal for your stool to turn green? I figured it was all the greens, but was worried maybe it meant I was eating too many. I just wanted to know if anyone else has experienced this. Thank you, nyia rawfood , " Bob & Breezi " <bobandbreezi@h...> wrote: > Vaberella wrote: > > " Well I ate until I was full and drank about 4 cups of water, and > rising. Let me show you what I ate so you can get an idea: > > 2 pears; 2 tangerines; kiwi > Salad: > 2 teaspoons Nama Shoyu > 1 tablespoon vinegar > 3 tablespoons olive oil --soaked onions in it > 1 tablespoon flaxseed oil > 1-2 cups romaine lettuce > 4 slices red onion > > 1 pear for breakfast; 2 tangerines for lunch; 1 pear for snack; > salad for dinner; and kiwi for desert. > > > Now when I counted my calories I only had about 977 calories, but I > am full. Can anyone tell me if I'm still on the right track, or > should I be eating more. > > Does anyone here follow the calorie counters? Monitor how much > their eating, make sure their getting their nutrients or above the > 1000 mark? I'm just a bit worried, can anyone let me know if it's > viable or not?! " > > > Hi Vaberella, > > Just my 2 cents here but you are definitely not eating enough good foods and > eating too much of the bad foods. First of all if you go back to Fitday and > look at what you ate that day you will see that you had a whooping 62% of > your calories from FAT, 35% of calories from carbs and 3% of your calories > from protein. There is difference of opinion out there as to the percentages > of carbs, protein & fat but 62% fat is way too much no matter which diet > your are following (this, by the way, is one of the biggest mistakes new raw > fooders make...me included). 1 tablespoon of oil, no matter which kind, is > 100% fat, 120 calories (all of those calories being FAT calories) and 14 > grams of fat. You had 4 tablespoons of oil that day and that was the bulk of > your calories for the day. Not much nutrition in oil. And it is going to be > impossible to lose weight eating over 10-20% fat a day not to mention just > plain being unhealthy. The oils you buy in the store are not raw. They are > processed at high temperatures (yes, even " cold pressed " ). Heated oils are > carcinogenic (cancer causing). You can buy " raw " oils but they are still > 100% fat. You get all the natural fat you need from fruits, veggies, nuts > and seeds. > > Try having a smoothie for breakfast (or dinner) made with almond milk and > bananas (or what ever fruit you like). For snacks you can eat fruit (some > people will tell you not to eat too much fruit....once again it is up to you > and how your own body handles it). Have a big salad with lots of dark green > lettuce, much more that 1-2 cups more like 4-6 cups. Add 1/2 avo, 2 med. > tomatoes or whatever else you like. But, keep it simple, no more than 3 or 4 > ingredients. Try and have 2 salads a day. You can even juice your salad or > put it in the blender to make a soup of it for variety. Miso & Nama Shoyu > are not food and are not good for the body (though many will argue this). > They are not raw they are processed. They are " live " but they are not raw. > They are way too salty and some even contain wheat which is mucus causing. > Vinegar is not a food but diluted acetic acid. > > You can also munch on raw nuts during the day if you are hungry but be > careful, they are very high in fat so this is where Fitday will come in > handy for you to see how you are doing on your fat intake. I don't think > most raw foodists count calories, I don't know any who do. You will, in > time, find what amounts and types of food are right for your body & will > lose the extra body fat eating a predominately raw diet (better at 100%). > You must, of course, exercise for optimum health not just to aid in weight > loss but it is a big plus. Get lots of sunshine, fresh air and very > important.....enough sleep. Just keep reading as much as you can to educate > yourself about this raw journey and never forget that we are all different > and what works for some may not work for others. Do what you feel > comfortable with......speaking of which....be sure to educate yourself about > " detox " so you are not blaming the raw diet (saying it made you sick or you > got " a bug going around " ) for not feeling good. Hope this helps a little. > Good luck, take care. Breezi > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 You can not eat too much green lettuce ( it is best to be organic though)! I personally don't like the bitterness of leafy greens such as kale, collards etc. so I don't consume them anymore. I love spinach salad but if I eat too much I get a really bitter chalky taste/feeling in my mouth and on my teeth. I was at a lecture with Loren Lockman who told us that we do not need to consume the bitter leafy greens. We can get everything we need in the milder dark greens of lettuce. You can drink the juice of lettuce alone. It will be sweet (if it is organic...we have found commercial lettuce's to be bitter) and it will not give you a stomach ach like when you drink the juice from bitter greens. I don't know about you but this tells me something. Just because someone tells us that a certain food contains tons of calcium or some other vit. or mineral doesn't mean that we need to eat it. Art Baker (raw author & lecturer) tells us that belladonna, a wild herb which rabbits love, is deadly to humans. This is a very strong poison and yet it is used in medicine (what's wrong with this picture?) We humans do not have to eat every plant out there just because it is there or someone says it contains mega calcium or vit. C etc. Who is really to say how much of these vits. & minerals we need? These plants are bitter to us for a reason. Why do we want to eat something bitter (which to me is unpleasant) when there are so many good things that are not bitter? Our bodies are smarter than we give them credit for and try to communicate with us but we ignore the signs. If you are overdoing it on raw fruits, which initially taste sweet and wonderful, you may all of a sudden get a burning sensation around your lips and in your mouth. There is a word for this but I can't remember it right now. This makes it very hard and uncomfortable to keep eating more of that fruit. This is our bodies way of not letting us overeat. Haven't you ever been eating really good oranges and all of a sudden the corners of your mouth start to burn? Although this will happen if we try to eat fruit that is not fully ripe & then our body is telling us that it is not good to eat at this stage. This doesn't happen when eating cooked food and so we overeat for the pleasure of the taste (and become overweight). Dr. Doug Graham says we should eat no less than a pound of greens a day. Next time you have a salad, if you have a kitchen scale, weigh your lettuce (minus the core). And yes, if you eat a lot of dark leafy greens your stools may be green. If you eat beets they will be reddish! Hope this was of some help. Breezi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 Wow! I just had that mouth-burning thing the other day. I had a mango that was a bit tart and some strawberries (2 of which where still a bit hard) and not soon after i got that mouth thing! Amazing how the body says " Hold up " so quickly with raw foods vs. cooked. Thanks for this info. I am going to try and get some greens into me. Right now i am just happy to be raw even if i am eating LOTS of fruit and not much veggies. peace nikki http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=barefootnikki If you are overdoing it on raw fruits, which initially taste sweet and wonderful, you may all of a sudden get a burning sensation around your lips and in your mouth. There is a word for this but I can't remember it right now. This makes it very hard and uncomfortable to keep eating more of that fruit. This is our bodies way of not letting us overeat. Haven't you ever been eating really good oranges and all of a sudden the corners of your mouth start to burn? Although this will happen if we try to eat fruit that is not fully ripe & then our body is telling us that it is not good to eat at this stage. This doesn't happen when eating cooked food and so we overeat for the pleasure of the taste (and become overweight). --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.618 / Virus Database: 397 - Release 3/9/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2004 Report Share Posted March 15, 2004 >Also ... I know this is gross - sorry, but ... is it normal for your >stool to turn green? I figured it was all the greens, but was >worried maybe it meant I was eating too many. I just wanted to know >if anyone else has experienced this. > >Thank you, > >nyia Nahh, not gross, don't worry ) My stools have gotten softer since changing my diet and when I did a green juice the other day they went green too so I'm assuming it is normal...either that or we're both in trouble _______________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I like Kale, Chard and Collards, and spinach I didn't like the turnip greens, I found them much more bitter. In a message dated 5/17/2009 8:05:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, karogden2 writes: Are all greens like kale, chard, turnip and so on interchangeable in a recipe? And just what is the difference between all of them? Karo **************A strong credit score is 700 or above. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585011x1201462751/aol?redir=http://\ www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072 & hmpgID=115 & bcd=Maystrongfooter51709NO115) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 is a matter of opinion, and in mine, yes, most times, but the cooking times vary. texture may vary too, but all greens are so good. chard is my fave, as you get soft leaves and crunchier, but not too crunchy, just crunchier stalks. i make miso soup with chard and my bro in law said it is better than any he has had in japan, but i digress. ) hugs, Chanda Karen wrote: > > > Are all greens like kale, chard, turnip and so on interchangeable in a > recipe? And just what is the difference between all of them? > > Karo > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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