Guest guest Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, and are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends avoiding them. --- alex <telecom wrote: > > > Peter Gardiner wrote: > > >I find beetroots indigestible > > > They are great fermented! > Alex > > > > >Peter > > > >Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 I don't believe in David Wolf - fermented beets are great. Try it. Alex Rufus Shaw wrote: >Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, and >are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends avoiding >them. > > > > >--- alex <telecom wrote: > > >>Peter Gardiner wrote: >> >> >> >>>I find beetroots indigestible >>> >>> >>> >>They are great fermented! >>Alex >> >> >> >>>Peter >>> >>>Anita >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 Alex, Fermenting is a process that properly goes on in the gut and most especially in the colon. For other animals it is even more important. I respect David Wolfe a lot, but most surely I sympathize with him on not going nuts on beetroot, fermented or otherwise. My first test is that it does not digest. So why bother the body with it? Then I wonder how many enzymes and the like have tried and failed to assault the substance because it surely comes out undigested. If taste was such a wonderful indicator of what should be eaten, I for one would be in the Escoffier forum. Taste has been leading the human race up the garden path. You have caught me just in time as " fermented " is going into room 101 now. All joy, Peter alex [telecom] 23 March 2004 17:38 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) I don't believe in David Wolf - fermented beets are great. Try it. Alex Rufus Shaw wrote: >Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, and >are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends avoiding >them. > > > > >--- alex <telecom wrote: > > >>Peter Gardiner wrote: >> >> >> >>>I find beetroots indigestible >>> >>> >>> >>They are great fermented! >>Alex >> >> >> >>>Peter >>> >>>Anita >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 During fermentation great deal of new beneficial enzymes/ bacteria being introduced to the food. It takes the load of the metabolic enzymes of the body . Alex Peter Gardiner wrote: >Alex, > >Fermenting is a process that properly goes on in the gut and most especially >in the colon. For other animals it is even more important. > >I respect David Wolfe a lot, but most surely I sympathize with him on not >going nuts on beetroot, fermented or otherwise. > >My first test is that it does not digest. So why bother the body with it? >Then I wonder how many enzymes and the like have tried and failed to assault >the substance because it surely comes out undigested. If taste was such a >wonderful indicator of what should be eaten, I for one would be in the >Escoffier forum. Taste has been leading the human race up the garden path. > >You have caught me just in time as " fermented " is going into room 101 now. > >All joy, > >Peter > > >alex [telecom] >23 March 2004 17:38 >rawfood >Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) > > > >I don't believe in David Wolf - fermented beets are great. >Try it. >Alex > >Rufus Shaw wrote: > > > >>Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, and >>are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends avoiding >>them. >> >> >> >> >>--- alex <telecom wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>Peter Gardiner wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I find beetroots indigestible >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>They are great fermented! >>>Alex >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Peter >>>> >>>>Anita >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 Alex, I'm sure they taste great, but I need to be careful with stuff thats high glycemic index. The more I avoid it, the better I feel. Even when I excercise a lot, I do not need the extra sugars. They just make me feel dizzy. Rufus > I don't believe in David Wolf - fermented beets are > great. > Try it. > Alex Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 Rufus, luck of metabolic enzymes may cause these symptoms. These are produced by pancreas and thyroid. Enzyme reach food is helpful in this case. Alex Rufus Shaw wrote: >Alex, > >I'm sure they taste great, but I need to be careful >with stuff thats high glycemic index. The more I >avoid it, the better I feel. Even when I excercise a >lot, I do not need the extra sugars. They just make >me feel dizzy. > >Rufus > > > > > >>I don't believe in David Wolf - fermented beets are >>great. >>Try it. >>Alex >> >> > > > > > Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. >http://taxes./filing.html > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 Is it also that some people have a taste for things like that? Like some people hate sauerkraut and others can even drink the juice. I am hoping to one day ferment some stuff because i LOVE that taste! I didn't realize that it was enzymes that gave it that flavour though, kind of cool to know! peace nikki Rufus, luck of metabolic enzymes may cause these symptoms. These are produced by pancreas and thyroid. Enzyme reach food is helpful in this case. Alex --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.618 / Virus Database: 397 - Release 3/9/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Alex, Thats exactly what I mean. Raw food is full of enzymes. Why do we need to drink Rejuvilack (sp) to get more enzymes, when it is acid forming ? I just eat a lot of raw food in order to get my enzymes. With Respect Rufus --- alex <telecom wrote: > Rufus, > luck of metabolic enzymes may cause these symptoms. > These are produced > by pancreas and thyroid. > Enzyme reach food is helpful in this case. > Alex Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Alex, This post reminded me of what the original thought process was behind Rejuvilack. It's enzyme rich, and has a lot of bacteria. The enzyme argument is mute, because a raw fooder does not have to worry about getting enough enzymes. Now, with good bacteria strains av available commercially (Primal defense) there is no longer a need for rejuvilack, because in addition to it's qualities, it is acid forming, which is generally considered a bad thing. Rufus --- alex <telecom wrote: > During fermentation great deal of new beneficial > enzymes/ bacteria being > introduced to the food. > It takes the load of the metabolic enzymes of the > body . > Alex > > Peter Gardiner wrote: > > >Alex, > > > >Fermenting is a process that properly goes on in > the gut and most especially > >in the colon. For other animals it is even more > important. > > > >I respect David Wolfe a lot, but most surely I > sympathize with him on not > >going nuts on beetroot, fermented or otherwise. > > > >My first test is that it does not digest. So why > bother the body with it? > >Then I wonder how many enzymes and the like have > tried and failed to assault > >the substance because it surely comes out > undigested. If taste was such a > >wonderful indicator of what should be eaten, I for > one would be in the > >Escoffier forum. Taste has been leading the human > race up the garden path. > > > >You have caught me just in time as " fermented " is > going into room 101 now. > > > >All joy, > > > >Peter > > > > > >alex [telecom] > >23 March 2004 17:38 > >rawfood > >Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) > > > > > > > >I don't believe in David Wolf - fermented beets are > great. > >Try it. > >Alex > > > >Rufus Shaw wrote: > > > > > > > >>Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, > and > >>are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends > avoiding > >>them. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>--- alex <telecom wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Peter Gardiner wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>I find beetroots indigestible > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>They are great fermented! > >>>Alex > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Peter > >>>> > >>>>Anita > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Hi Rufus, I have the same opinion. I use to eat just fruit in its natural form, one sort in one meal. Katarina rawfood , Rufus Shaw <rufus10_99> wrote: > Alex, > > Thats exactly what I mean. Raw food is full of > enzymes. Why do we need to drink Rejuvilack (sp) to > get more enzymes, when it is acid forming ? I just > eat a lot of raw food in order to get my enzymes. > > With Respect > Rufus > > > --- alex <telecom@i...> wrote: > > Rufus, > > luck of metabolic enzymes may cause these symptoms. > > These are produced > > by pancreas and thyroid. > > Enzyme reach food is helpful in this case. > > Alex > > > > > Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. > http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Rufus, R. is extremely beneficial.. What raw foods do you it ? From my experience, they should be either sprouted, or fermented, or both to contain proper enzymes. Do you eat raw meat, eggs, milk, butter, honey? I never heard that R. forms acid - this is fermented drink. Alex Rufus Shaw wrote: >Alex, > >Thats exactly what I mean. Raw food is full of >enzymes. Why do we need to drink Rejuvilack (sp) to >get more enzymes, when it is acid forming ? I just >eat a lot of raw food in order to get my enzymes. > >With Respect >Rufus > > >--- alex <telecom wrote: > > >>Rufus, >>luck of metabolic enzymes may cause these symptoms. >>These are produced >>by pancreas and thyroid. >>Enzyme reach food is helpful in this case. >>Alex >> >> > > > > > Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. >http://taxes./filing.html > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 But many people can't afford supplements. Why to spend tens of dollars a day when you can have better results for cents per day (my diet is 70 c a day). Alex Rufus Shaw wrote: >Alex, > >This post reminded me of what the original thought >process was behind Rejuvilack. It's enzyme rich, and >has a lot of bacteria. > >The enzyme argument is mute, because a raw fooder does >not have to worry about getting enough enzymes. Now, >with good bacteria strains av available commercially >(Primal defense) there is no longer a need for >rejuvilack, because in addition to it's qualities, it >is acid forming, which is generally considered a bad >thing. > >Rufus > >--- alex <telecom wrote: > > >>During fermentation great deal of new beneficial >>enzymes/ bacteria being >>introduced to the food. >>It takes the load of the metabolic enzymes of the >>body . >>Alex >> >>Peter Gardiner wrote: >> >> >> >>>Alex, >>> >>>Fermenting is a process that properly goes on in >>> >>> >>the gut and most especially >> >> >>>in the colon. For other animals it is even more >>> >>> >>important. >> >> >>>I respect David Wolfe a lot, but most surely I >>> >>> >>sympathize with him on not >> >> >>>going nuts on beetroot, fermented or otherwise. >>> >>>My first test is that it does not digest. So why >>> >>> >>bother the body with it? >> >> >>>Then I wonder how many enzymes and the like have >>> >>> >>tried and failed to assault >> >> >>>the substance because it surely comes out >>> >>> >>undigested. If taste was such a >> >> >>>wonderful indicator of what should be eaten, I for >>> >>> >>one would be in the >> >> >>>Escoffier forum. Taste has been leading the human >>> >>> >>race up the garden path. >> >> >>>You have caught me just in time as " fermented " is >>> >>> >>going into room 101 now. >> >> >>>All joy, >>> >>>Peter >>> >>> >>>alex [telecom] >>>23 March 2004 17:38 >>>rawfood >>>Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) >>> >>> >>> >>>I don't believe in David Wolf - fermented beets are >>> >>> >>great. >> >> >>>Try it. >>>Alex >>> >>>Rufus Shaw wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, >>>> >>>> >>and >> >> >>>>are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends >>>> >>>> >>avoiding >> >> >>>>them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>--- alex <telecom wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Peter Gardiner wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I find beetroots indigestible >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>They are great fermented! >>>>>Alex >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Peter >>>>>> >>>>>>Anita >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 I side with Rufus on this one. The idea of rejuvalac has never appealed to me even though Ann Wigmore swore by it. The place for fermenting food is in the lower intestine not further up the digestive tract. Peter alex [telecom] 24 March 2004 16:28 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) But many people can't afford supplements. Why to spend tens of dollars a day when you can have better results for cents per day (my diet is 70 c a day). Alex Rufus Shaw wrote: >Alex, > >This post reminded me of what the original thought >process was behind Rejuvilack. It's enzyme rich, and >has a lot of bacteria. > >The enzyme argument is mute, because a raw fooder does >not have to worry about getting enough enzymes. Now, >with good bacteria strains av available commercially >(Primal defense) there is no longer a need for >rejuvilack, because in addition to it's qualities, it >is acid forming, which is generally considered a bad >thing. > >Rufus > >--- alex <telecom wrote: > > >>During fermentation great deal of new beneficial >>enzymes/ bacteria being >>introduced to the food. >>It takes the load of the metabolic enzymes of the >>body . >>Alex >> >>Peter Gardiner wrote: >> >> >> >>>Alex, >>> >>>Fermenting is a process that properly goes on in >>> >>> >>the gut and most especially >> >> >>>in the colon. For other animals it is even more >>> >>> >>important. >> >> >>>I respect David Wolfe a lot, but most surely I >>> >>> >>sympathize with him on not >> >> >>>going nuts on beetroot, fermented or otherwise. >>> >>>My first test is that it does not digest. So why >>> >>> >>bother the body with it? >> >> >>>Then I wonder how many enzymes and the like have >>> >>> >>tried and failed to assault >> >> >>>the substance because it surely comes out >>> >>> >>undigested. If taste was such a >> >> >>>wonderful indicator of what should be eaten, I for >>> >>> >>one would be in the >> >> >>>Escoffier forum. Taste has been leading the human >>> >>> >>race up the garden path. >> >> >>>You have caught me just in time as " fermented " is >>> >>> >>going into room 101 now. >> >> >>>All joy, >>> >>>Peter >>> >>> >>>alex [telecom] >>>23 March 2004 17:38 >>>rawfood >>>Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) >>> >>> >>> >>>I don't believe in David Wolf - fermented beets are >>> >>> >>great. >> >> >>>Try it. >>>Alex >>> >>>Rufus Shaw wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, >>>> >>>> >>and >> >> >>>>are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends >>>> >>>> >>avoiding >> >> >>>>them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>--- alex <telecom wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Peter Gardiner wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I find beetroots indigestible >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>They are great fermented! >>>>>Alex >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Peter >>>>>> >>>>>>Anita >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 I like juicing them from time to time but they are so sweet and quite acidic so I stay away mostly. Try adding one juiced beet to the juice of 2 or 3 oranges, it is really quite divine! -Abbey =) > >Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, and >are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends avoiding >them. > > > > > >I find beetroots indigestible > > > > > They are great fermented! _______________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http://\ hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Oranges are acidic (for real). Alex Abegael Drake wrote: >I like juicing them from time to time but they are so sweet and quite acidic >so I stay away mostly. Try adding one juiced beet to the juice of 2 or 3 >oranges, it is really quite divine! > >-Abbey =) > > > > >>Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, and >>are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends avoiding >>them. >> >> >> >>>>I find beetroots indigestible >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>They are great fermented! >>> >>> > >_______________ >MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http:/\ /hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 yes of course ) >Oranges are acidic (for real). >Alex > >Abegael Drake wrote: > > >I like juicing them from time to time but they are so sweet and quite >acidic > >so I stay away mostly. Try adding one juiced beet to the juice of 2 or 3 > >oranges, it is really quite divine! > > > >-Abbey =) > > > > > > > > > >>Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, and > >>are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends avoiding > >>them. > >> > >> > >> > >>>>I find beetroots indigestible > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>They are great fermented! > >>> > >>> > > > >_______________ > >MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http:/\ /hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 L.Win wrote: >>yes of course ) >> >> > > > >>>Oranges are acidic (for real). >>> >>> >---- > exCUUUUUSE Me? Gotta butt in here. > >We're talking pH effect upon the body. >While Oranges and even Lemons for that matter may be acidic in the mouth > From what I know this only applicable to lemons/limes. I 'm trying to avoid oranges. Alex >they leave an Alkaline Ash and by nutrition standards are ALKALIZING. >Don't believe this nonsense about raw fruits and veggies being acidic. >It only becomes acidic if it has an extremely high starch componenent and >even then, in the raw state, won't leave enough acidic ash to concern >yourself with, and who eats many raw potatoes, yams or beetroots anyway? >Grains and legumes, however, like corn or rice, barley or beans are acidic >to the body. > If you SPROUT them this reverses, as they now are a baby plant and no >longer a seed. >BUT, if you JUICE those Oranges and drink a glassful all at once, the sugar >bump will turn this meal into an acidifying experience. >Alway injest the natural fiber with the fruit to allow the stomach enough >time to properly mix juices with this and let your body do what it is >designed to do, lower the glycemic index of the choad. >I keep an Old Champion Juicer in the back of a cupboard and bring it out >once or twice a year during a juice fast and then I HIDE it away again. I >do keep a blender on the counter, however, for my morning Smoothie, which >keeps the natural fibers and I even ADD some psyllium husk/oatbran fiber to >the delight. I find this works for me and I love it, but I do admit Peter's >way of keeping it all unprocessed and just snacking on singular pieces of >raw fruits or veggies all day, is most likely the very best protocol. >Eat the orange [one] and alkalize your body:) >Do it again a while later. >rusty. >P.S. >Here's a color coded list to follow: >http://pacificcoast.net/~rustym/articles/PH.html > rty > > >- > " Abegael Drake " <djrockitgirl ><rawfood > >Friday, March 26, 2004 9:21 AM >Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) > > > > >>yes of course ) >> >> >> >> >>>Oranges are acidic (for real). >>>Alex >>> >>>Abegael Drake wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I like juicing them from time to time but they are so sweet and quite >>>> >>>> >>>acidic >>> >>> >>>>so I stay away mostly. Try adding one juiced beet to the juice of 2 or >>>> >>>> >3 > > >>>>oranges, it is really quite divine! >>>> >>>>-Abbey =) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, and >>>>>are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends avoiding >>>>>them. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>I find beetroots indigestible >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>They are great fermented! >>>>>> >>>>>> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 > yes of course ) > >Oranges are acidic (for real). ---- exCUUUUUSE Me? Gotta butt in here. We're talking pH effect upon the body. While Oranges and even Lemons for that matter may be acidic in the mouth they leave an Alkaline Ash and by nutrition standards are ALKALIZING. Don't believe this nonsense about raw fruits and veggies being acidic. It only becomes acidic if it has an extremely high starch componenent and even then, in the raw state, won't leave enough acidic ash to concern yourself with, and who eats many raw potatoes, yams or beetroots anyway? Grains and legumes, however, like corn or rice, barley or beans are acidic to the body. If you SPROUT them this reverses, as they now are a baby plant and no longer a seed. BUT, if you JUICE those Oranges and drink a glassful all at once, the sugar bump will turn this meal into an acidifying experience. Alway injest the natural fiber with the fruit to allow the stomach enough time to properly mix juices with this and let your body do what it is designed to do, lower the glycemic index of the choad. I keep an Old Champion Juicer in the back of a cupboard and bring it out once or twice a year during a juice fast and then I HIDE it away again. I do keep a blender on the counter, however, for my morning Smoothie, which keeps the natural fibers and I even ADD some psyllium husk/oatbran fiber to the delight. I find this works for me and I love it, but I do admit Peter's way of keeping it all unprocessed and just snacking on singular pieces of raw fruits or veggies all day, is most likely the very best protocol. Eat the orange [one] and alkalize your body:) Do it again a while later. rusty. P.S. Here's a color coded list to follow: http://pacificcoast.net/~rustym/articles/PH.html rty - " Abegael Drake " <djrockitgirl <rawfood > Friday, March 26, 2004 9:21 AM Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) > yes of course ) > > > >Oranges are acidic (for real). > >Alex > > > >Abegael Drake wrote: > > > > >I like juicing them from time to time but they are so sweet and quite > >acidic > > >so I stay away mostly. Try adding one juiced beet to the juice of 2 or 3 > > >oranges, it is really quite divine! > > > > > >-Abbey =) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, and > > >>are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends avoiding > > >>them. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>>I find beetroots indigestible > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>They are great fermented! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 >From what I know this only applicable to lemons/limes. I 'm trying to avoid oranges. Alex - Hi Alex. The color coded chart I use in the link http://pacificcoast.net/~rustym/articles/PH.html was compiled and coded by the American Diabetes Society. Where in the article does your source of informtion clash and what is that source? I'd be interested in finding out any new studies, as this page is a few years old but it was the state of knowlege and understanding at that moment. If it requires updating I want to get right on it. rusty - " alex " <telecom <rawfood > Friday, March 26, 2004 10:28 AM Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) > > > L.Win wrote: > > >>yes of course ) > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>>Oranges are acidic (for real). > >>> > >>> > >---- > > exCUUUUUSE Me? Gotta butt in here. > > > >We're talking pH effect upon the body. > >While Oranges and even Lemons for that matter may be acidic in the mouth > > > From what I know this only applicable to lemons/limes. I 'm trying to > avoid oranges. > > Alex > > >they leave an Alkaline Ash and by nutrition standards are ALKALIZING. > >Don't believe this nonsense about raw fruits and veggies being acidic. > >It only becomes acidic if it has an extremely high starch componenent and > >even then, in the raw state, won't leave enough acidic ash to concern > >yourself with, and who eats many raw potatoes, yams or beetroots anyway? > >Grains and legumes, however, like corn or rice, barley or beans are acidic > >to the body. > > If you SPROUT them this reverses, as they now are a baby plant and no > >longer a seed. > >BUT, if you JUICE those Oranges and drink a glassful all at once, the sugar > >bump will turn this meal into an acidifying experience. > >Alway injest the natural fiber with the fruit to allow the stomach enough > >time to properly mix juices with this and let your body do what it is > >designed to do, lower the glycemic index of the choad. > >I keep an Old Champion Juicer in the back of a cupboard and bring it out > >once or twice a year during a juice fast and then I HIDE it away again. I > >do keep a blender on the counter, however, for my morning Smoothie, which > >keeps the natural fibers and I even ADD some psyllium husk/oatbran fiber to > >the delight. I find this works for me and I love it, but I do admit Peter's > >way of keeping it all unprocessed and just snacking on singular pieces of > >raw fruits or veggies all day, is most likely the very best protocol. > >Eat the orange [one] and alkalize your body:) > >Do it again a while later. > >rusty. > >P.S. > >Here's a color coded list to follow: > >http://pacificcoast.net/~rustym/articles/PH.html > > rty > > > > > >- > > " Abegael Drake " <djrockitgirl > ><rawfood > > >Friday, March 26, 2004 9:21 AM > >Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) > > > > > > > > > >>yes of course ) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>Oranges are acidic (for real). > >>>Alex > >>> > >>>Abegael Drake wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>I like juicing them from time to time but they are so sweet and quite > >>>> > >>>> > >>>acidic > >>> > >>> > >>>>so I stay away mostly. Try adding one juiced beet to the juice of 2 or > >>>> > >>>> > >3 > > > > > >>>>oranges, it is really quite divine! > >>>> > >>>>-Abbey =) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, and > >>>>>are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends avoiding > >>>>>them. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>>I find beetroots indigestible > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>They are great fermented! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 My source is herbalist Umberto Gabrielli. 416-633-2508 - you can call him and ask. Alex L.Win wrote: > >From what I know this only applicable to lemons/limes. I 'm trying to >avoid oranges. >Alex >- >Hi Alex. The color coded chart I use in the link >http://pacificcoast.net/~rustym/articles/PH.html >was compiled and coded by the American Diabetes Society. >Where in the article does your source of informtion clash and what is that source? >I'd be interested in finding out any new studies, as this page is a few years old but it was the state of knowlege and understanding at that moment. >If it requires updating I want to get right on it. >rusty > >- > " alex " <telecom ><rawfood > >Friday, March 26, 2004 10:28 AM >Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) > > > > >>L.Win wrote: >> >> >> >>>>yes of course ) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>Oranges are acidic (for real). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>---- >>> exCUUUUUSE Me? Gotta butt in here. >>> >>>We're talking pH effect upon the body. >>>While Oranges and even Lemons for that matter may be acidic in the mouth >>> >>> >>> >> From what I know this only applicable to lemons/limes. I 'm trying to >>avoid oranges. >> >>Alex >> >> >> >>>they leave an Alkaline Ash and by nutrition standards are ALKALIZING. >>>Don't believe this nonsense about raw fruits and veggies being acidic. >>>It only becomes acidic if it has an extremely high starch componenent and >>>even then, in the raw state, won't leave enough acidic ash to concern >>>yourself with, and who eats many raw potatoes, yams or beetroots anyway? >>>Grains and legumes, however, like corn or rice, barley or beans are acidic >>>to the body. >>> If you SPROUT them this reverses, as they now are a baby plant and no >>>longer a seed. >>>BUT, if you JUICE those Oranges and drink a glassful all at once, the sugar >>>bump will turn this meal into an acidifying experience. >>>Alway injest the natural fiber with the fruit to allow the stomach enough >>>time to properly mix juices with this and let your body do what it is >>>designed to do, lower the glycemic index of the choad. >>>I keep an Old Champion Juicer in the back of a cupboard and bring it out >>>once or twice a year during a juice fast and then I HIDE it away again. I >>>do keep a blender on the counter, however, for my morning Smoothie, which >>>keeps the natural fibers and I even ADD some psyllium husk/oatbran fiber to >>>the delight. I find this works for me and I love it, but I do admit Peter's >>>way of keeping it all unprocessed and just snacking on singular pieces of >>>raw fruits or veggies all day, is most likely the very best protocol. >>>Eat the orange [one] and alkalize your body:) >>>Do it again a while later. >>>rusty. >>>P.S. >>>Here's a color coded list to follow: >>>http://pacificcoast.net/~rustym/articles/PH.html >>>rty >>> >>> >>>- >>> " Abegael Drake " <djrockitgirl >>><rawfood > >>>Friday, March 26, 2004 9:21 AM >>>Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>yes of course ) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Oranges are acidic (for real). >>>>>Alex >>>>> >>>>>Abegael Drake wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I like juicing them from time to time but they are so sweet and quite >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>acidic >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>so I stay away mostly. Try adding one juiced beet to the juice of 2 or >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>3 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>oranges, it is really quite divine! >>>>>> >>>>>>-Abbey =) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, and >>>>>>>are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends avoiding >>>>>>>them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I find beetroots indigestible >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>They are great fermented! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 David Wolfe is slightly controversial but on this one I side with him to the absolute end. Beetroots are cooked food items and do not belong in a raw diet. They are better than meat when there is nothing else around. The problem is that we are spoiled for choice. Hunger stimulates appetite but who truly waits around for it. Peter Peter Abegael Drake [djrockitgirl] 26 March 2004 15:30 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Beetroots (alex, Peter) I like juicing them from time to time but they are so sweet and quite acidic so I stay away mostly. Try adding one juiced beet to the juice of 2 or 3 oranges, it is really quite divine! -Abbey =) > >Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, and >are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends avoiding >them. > > > > > >I find beetroots indigestible > > > > > They are great fermented! _______________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=htt p://hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2004 Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Oranges are acidic, but not acid forming. Strange but true. --- alex <telecom wrote: > Oranges are acidic (for real). > Alex > > Abegael Drake wrote: > > >I like juicing them from time to time but they are > so sweet and quite acidic > >so I stay away mostly. Try adding one juiced beet > to the juice of 2 or 3 > >oranges, it is really quite divine! > > > >-Abbey =) > > > > > > > > > >>Apparently beets have a very high glycemic index, > and > >>are very hybridized. David Wolf recommends > avoiding > >>them. > >> > >> > >> > >>>>I find beetroots indigestible > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>They are great fermented! > >>> > >>> > > > >_______________ > >MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses > and 2 months FREE* > >http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & DI=1034 & SU=http:/\ /hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 Thanks Rusty, Great article. I did not realize that PH played into the B12 equation. Rufus Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2004 Report Share Posted March 27, 2004 Just want to point out that when I stopped eating oranges my health greatly improved. Isn't the end result counts? Alex Rufus Shaw wrote: >Thanks Rusty, > >Great article. I did not realize that PH played into >the B12 equation. > >Rufus > > > > > Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. >http://taxes./filing.html > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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