Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 A Raw Foodist is defined as: Someone who includes all fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, and soaked and sprouted grains and legumes. Further, the raw foodist does not cook or heat the foods, but eats them only in their natural, raw state in order to preserve their valuable enzymes. So, what is the name for someone who follows all the above but chooses to eliminate ALL grains and legumes? Are they still raw foodists or is there another name for that group? I know there are different types of vegetarians, just curious if there are different types of raw foodists. Thanks Lili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Well, I'm one and you're one, Lili, that's two, so if we can find one more person, we can start a group and name ourselves... :>) Jesse - " Lili " <ladyschaumburg <rawfood > Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:54 PM [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? > So, what is the name for someone who follows all the above but > chooses to eliminate ALL grains and legumes? Are they still raw > foodists or is there another name for that group? I know there are > different types of vegetarians, just curious if there are different > types of raw foodists. Thanks Lili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Good point Lili, Some how the movement is stuck with the unattractive name of raw foodist. It gives the idea of eating raw meat raw fish and a load of other things which should not be eaten in the first place. I rather like Prof. Gruben's idea of if you cannot make a meal out of a food, it probably is not worth eating. That throws out garlic, the whole onion family, all the spices and brings us far closer to the healthy diet we are after. Then we have to put a name on it and we end up back on square one. My best name would be natural food for human beings shortened to ???? but then it might get confused with groups that run around without clothes. Time to let someone else join in This may have been mulled before. Peter Lili [ladyschaumburg] A Raw Foodist is defined as: Someone who includes all fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, and soaked and sprouted grains and legumes. Further, the raw foodist does not cook or heat the foods, but eats them only in their natural, raw state in order to preserve their valuable enzymes. So, what is the name for someone who follows all the above but chooses to eliminate ALL grains and legumes? Are they still raw foodists or is there another name for that group? I know there are different types of vegetarians, just curious if there are different types of raw foodists. Thanks Lili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Do you mean star out with a Lili and risk being known as the " silly lilies " ? Peter studio53 [studio53] 08 April 2004 06:07 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? Well, I'm one and you're one, Lili, that's two, so if we can find one more person, we can start a group and name ourselves... :>) Jesse - " Lili " <ladyschaumburg <rawfood > Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:54 PM [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? > So, what is the name for someone who follows all the above but chooses > to eliminate ALL grains and legumes? Are they still raw foodists or is > there another name for that group? I know there are different types of > vegetarians, just curious if there are different types of raw > foodists. Thanks Lili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Hi Peter, speaking about names: you surely know the subcategory called fruitarianism. In Slovakia and in Czech Republic, too, people use pretty nice name for raw foodism: vitarianism. Katarina rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Good point Lili, > > Some how the movement is stuck with the unattractive name of raw foodist. > It gives the idea > of eating raw meat raw fish and a load of other things which should not be > eaten in the first place. > > I rather like Prof. Gruben's idea of if you cannot make a meal out of a > food, it probably is not worth eating. > > That throws out garlic, the whole onion family, all the spices and brings us > far closer to the healthy diet we are after. Then we have to put a name on > it and we end up back on square one. My best name would be natural food for > human beings shortened to ???? but then it might get confused with groups > that run around without clothes. > > Time to let someone else join in This may have been mulled before. > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 The dietary of fruits, veggies, nuts/edible seeds, is the fruitarian diet. There are different forms of fruitarian diet, so I refer to the above as the Hygienic fruitarian diet, since these are the foods that Hygiene refers to as naturally compatible with our anatomy and physiology. Fruitarian can mean different things to different people. Some people regard it as eating exclusively fruit; some as eating only fruits and veggies; some as eating fruits and nuts/seeds only--in fact there are fruitarians who consider all seeds, including grains, as part of the fruitarian diet. There are some excellent books written by notable Hygienists, on the effects of various foods on our health, as well as the suitability of different foods for our species. The books by Shelton and Carrington that I mentioned in my original post are standouts. In addition, you can read free, on-line, another of Herbert Shelton's enlightening books covering our natural dietary: http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020126shelton.orthotrop hy/020126.toc.html. Zsuzsa rawfood , " Lili " <ladyschaumburg> wrote: > A Raw Foodist is defined as: Someone who includes all fruits, > vegetables, nuts, seeds, and soaked and sprouted grains and legumes. > Further, the raw foodist does not cook or heat the foods, but eats > them only in their natural, raw state in order to preserve their > valuable enzymes. > > So, what is the name for someone who follows all the above but > chooses to eliminate ALL grains and legumes? Are they still raw > foodists or is there another name for that group? I know there are > different types of vegetarians, just curious if there are different > types of raw foodists. Thanks Lili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Good point Lili, > > Some how the movement is stuck with the unattractive name of raw foodist. > It gives the idea > of eating raw meat raw fish and a load of other things which should not be > eaten in the first place. Yes, unfortunately, there are people advocating the eating of raw animal products. They are a fad, branching off from the original raw food movement, which is vegan. So it does necessitate these days mentioning that one is raw vegan, instead of just raw. > I rather like Prof. Gruben's idea of if you cannot make a meal out of a > food, it probably is not worth eating. > > That throws out garlic, the whole onion family, all the spices and brings us > far closer to the healthy diet we are after. I am glad Roz Gruben is teaching it, but it is from the Hygiene body of knowledge, having been written about by T.C. Fry, who based his writings on the works of Shelton and Carrington, which are in turn built upon the writings of the great Hygienic doctors and teachers of the 19th century. > Then we have to put a name on > it and we end up back on square one. My best name would be natural food for > human beings shortened to ???? but then it might get confused with groups > that run around without clothes. Yes, lol. I don't know if there's an ideal name for it. I refer to it as the fruitarian diet, and if elaborating on it, then I explain that it's the Hygienic definition of fruitarian. A bit involved to explain, and not very sexy. There could be a catchier name, certainly. Zsuzsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 The technical term is: ungrainy, legume-less, raw foodist ; ) Rufus Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions./design_giveaway/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Why would you refer to those who don't eat grains or legumes as " silly lilies " ? Because they don't agree with your idea of raw foodism? I have also thought of eliminating the both. Derrick. rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Do you mean star out with a Lili and risk being known as the " silly lilies " ? > > Peter > > studio53 [studio53@o...] > 08 April 2004 06:07 > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? > > > > Well, > I'm one and you're one, Lili, that's two, so if we can find one more person, > we can start a group and name ourselves... :>) > > Jesse > > - > " Lili " <ladyschaumburg> > <rawfood > > Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:54 PM > [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? > > > So, what is the name for someone who follows all the above but chooses > > to eliminate ALL grains and legumes? Are they still raw foodists or is > > there another name for that group? I know there are different types of > > vegetarians, just curious if there are different types of raw > > foodists. > Thanks Lili > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Katarina, A problem with fruitarianism or frugivore is that it ignores the place of vegetables. Most people would quickly go into diarrhoea with such an all fruit diet. Vitarianism assumes a public that is better educated than it is. It certainly is hard to pack so much meaning into one or two words so as to describe our diet. Words such as primal, real, vital and natural do not seem to pack enough meaning. Raw is aggressive and catching and we seem to be stuck with it. In the end some wit will come up with a better term. Lets hope it is something more inspired than " Windows " for computers. Peter Katarína Hviezdarková [katarinahviezdarkova] 08 April 2004 12:08 rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? Hi Peter, speaking about names: you surely know the subcategory called fruitarianism. In Slovakia and in Czech Republic, too, people use pretty nice name for raw foodism: vitarianism. Katarina rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Good point Lili, > > Some how the movement is stuck with the unattractive name of raw foodist. > It gives the idea > of eating raw meat raw fish and a load of other things which should not be > eaten in the first place. > > I rather like Prof. Gruben's idea of if you cannot make a meal out of a > food, it probably is not worth eating. > > That throws out garlic, the whole onion family, all the spices and brings us > far closer to the healthy diet we are after. Then we have to put a name on > it and we end up back on square one. My best name would be natural food for > human beings shortened to ???? but then it might get confused with groups > that run around without clothes. > > Time to let someone else join in This may have been mulled before. > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Derrick, You will feel a whole lot better when you dump grain and pulses. They came on to the planet way before mammals were about. At the time we came along, fruits were evolving on the trees and so fruit and leaves became out niche. Our digestion likes food for the small intestines and does not deal adequately with grains and pulses. I suggested that others might use the term " silly lilies " to do what we all should be doing. Peter Derrick [vegiebowl] 09 April 2004 05:42 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? Why would you refer to those who don't eat grains or legumes as " silly lilies " ? Because they don't agree with your idea of raw foodism? I have also thought of eliminating the both. Derrick. rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Do you mean star out with a Lili and risk being known as the " silly > lilies " ? > > Peter > > studio53 [studio53@o...] > 08 April 2004 06:07 > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? > > > > Well, > I'm one and you're one, Lili, that's two, so if we can find one more person, > we can start a group and name ourselves... :>) > > Jesse > > - > " Lili " <ladyschaumburg> > <rawfood > > Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:54 PM > [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? > > > So, what is the name for someone who follows all the above but > > chooses > > to eliminate ALL grains and legumes? Are they still raw foodists or is > > there another name for that group? I know there are different types of > > vegetarians, just curious if there are different types of raw > > foodists. > Thanks Lili > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 OK - What are pulses? Derrickrawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Derrick, > > You will feel a whole lot better when you dump grain and pulses. They came > on to the planet way before mammals were about. At the time we came along, > fruits were evolving on the trees and so fruit and leaves became out niche. > Our digestion likes food for the small intestines and does not deal > adequately with grains and pulses. > > I suggested that others might use the term " silly lilies " to do what we all > should be doing. > > Peter > > > Derrick [vegiebowl] > 09 April 2004 05:42 > rawfood > [Raw Food] Re: Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? > > > > Why would you refer to those who don't eat grains or legumes as " silly > lilies " ? Because they don't agree with your idea of raw foodism? I have also > thought of eliminating the both. Derrick. > > rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > > Do you mean star out with a Lili and risk being known as the " silly > > lilies " ? > > > > Peter > > > > studio53 [studio53@o...] > > 08 April 2004 06:07 > > rawfood > > Re: [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? > > > > > > > > Well, > > I'm one and you're one, Lili, that's two, so if we can find one more > person, > > we can start a group and name ourselves... :>) > > > > Jesse > > > > - > > " Lili " <ladyschaumburg> > > <rawfood > > > Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:54 PM > > [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? > > > > > So, what is the name for someone who follows all the above but > > > chooses > > > to eliminate ALL grains and legumes? Are they still raw foodists or is > > > there another name for that group? I know there are different types of > > > vegetarians, just curious if there are different types of raw > > > foodists. > > Thanks Lili > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Derrick, Beans and what in America are often called legumes. Peter Derrick [vegiebowl] 09 April 2004 16:28 rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? OK - What are pulses? Derrickrawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > Derrick, > > You will feel a whole lot better when you dump grain and pulses. They came > on to the planet way before mammals were about. At the time we came along, > fruits were evolving on the trees and so fruit and leaves became out niche. > Our digestion likes food for the small intestines and does not deal > adequately with grains and pulses. > > I suggested that others might use the term " silly lilies " to do what we all > should be doing. > > Peter > > > Derrick [vegiebowl] > 09 April 2004 05:42 > rawfood > [Raw Food] Re: Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? > > > > Why would you refer to those who don't eat grains or legumes as " silly > lilies " ? Because they don't agree with your idea of raw foodism? I have also > thought of eliminating the both. Derrick. > > rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > > Do you mean star out with a Lili and risk being known as the " silly > > lilies " ? > > > > Peter > > > > studio53 [studio53@o...] > > 08 April 2004 06:07 > > rawfood > > Re: [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? > > > > > > > > Well, > > I'm one and you're one, Lili, that's two, so if we can find one more > person, > > we can start a group and name ourselves... :>) > > > > Jesse > > > > - > > " Lili " <ladyschaumburg> > > <rawfood > > > Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:54 PM > > [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & Legumes? > > > > > So, what is the name for someone who follows all the above but > > > chooses > > > to eliminate ALL grains and legumes? Are they still raw foodists or is > > > there another name for that group? I know there are different types of > > > vegetarians, just curious if there are different types of raw > > > foodists. > > Thanks Lili > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Peter, How about Raw Vegan? --- Katarína_Hviezdarková <katarinahviezdarkova wrote: > Hi Peter, > > speaking about names: you surely know the > subcategory called > fruitarianism. > > In Slovakia and in Czech Republic, too, people use > pretty nice name > for raw foodism: vitarianism. > > Katarina > > rawfood , " Peter Gardiner " > <petergardiner@e...> wrote: > > Good point Lili, > > > > Some how the movement is stuck with the > unattractive name of raw > foodist. > > It gives the idea > > of eating raw meat raw fish and a load of other > things which > should not be > > eaten in the first place. > > > > I rather like Prof. Gruben's idea of if you cannot > make a meal out > of a > > food, it probably is not worth eating. > > > > That throws out garlic, the whole onion family, > all the spices and > brings us > > far closer to the healthy diet we are after. Then > we have to put > a name on > > it and we end up back on square one. My best name > would be > natural food for > > human beings shortened to ???? but then it might > get confused with > groups > > that run around without clothes. > > > > Time to let someone else join in This may have > been mulled > before. > > Peter > > > > Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions./design_giveaway/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Sonia, Raw vegan still includes the legumes and grains even though only sprouting them will make them edible. Peter, How about Raw Vegan? --- Katarína_Hviezdarková <katarinahviezdarkova wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2004 Report Share Posted April 10, 2004 Lili there are different name for uncook food eater, sunfoodist, livefoodist, life-foodist etc.as Dr. David Jubb diffrentiat between rawfood, living food and life food, i like to choose for those who eats only fruit, vegetable and occasionally nuts and seeds as lifefoodist.life food are those which have a lot of life force. mahendra --- studio53 <studio53 wrote: > Well, > I'm one and you're one, Lili, that's two, so if we > can find one more person, > we can start a group and name ourselves... :>) > > Jesse > > - > " Lili " <ladyschaumburg > <rawfood > > Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:54 PM > [Raw Food] Raw Foodism Without Grains & > Legumes? > > > So, what is the name for someone who follows all > the above but > > chooses to eliminate ALL grains and legumes? Are > they still raw > > foodists or is there another name for that group? > I know there are > > different types of vegetarians, just curious if > there are different > > types of raw foodists. > Thanks Lili > > Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Hi Peter, Although I do not know how well is educated the society in my country, we use the term vitarianism here. Katarina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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