Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Anne, IMHO, the reason it is so difficult to remain 100% raw after attaining this goal in an institute is for the very reasons you mention. People who feel good generally try to go it on their own rather than pay the fortune at an institue. From my understanding (conversations with friends who have done what you have done), the food and support at such places is wonderful The sad part is, we rarely have such support at home and don't know how to duplicate what we ate by those wonderful raw food chefs. Since you don't plan on being 100% raw, you might be interested in reading two books NUTRITION AND PHYSICAL DEGENERATION by Weston Price TRADITIONAL FOODS ARE YOUR BEST MEDICINE by Schmidt These authors are not promoting raw diets. They are promoting a return to a completely natural diet (as was witness among more 'primative' societies). By 'primative', I mean societies that do not have access to supermarkets, while flour, etc. mary > > > Well, I did not maintain raw. AS a matter of fact, I > fell flat on my > face with cooked. However, I am slowly and surely > incorporating raw > back into my diet. Part of the problem is energy. It > takes a lot of > time and effort to keep a raw diet going and I am > recovering from > chronic fatigue syndrome. Also, I'm not planning on > being 100% raw > ever. I'm not disciplined enough, among other > things. FOrtunately or > unfortunately I have a strong constitution and was > able to abuse > myself terribly until now when I am sick. I've come > to a raw diet as > a process of elimination looking for health and > healing for cfs. > Ultimately, I believe the body can heal itself given > the proper > milieu, and somehow I found raw in the process. > Thank goodness. Maybe > since I'm having to backtrack I will have a better > chance of going > mostly raw and staying there. -a > > > > > ===== Mary, Luvie, Ranger, & the flying brigade A smile is a silent 'hello'. owner of 'The Fully Trained Working Dog' 'Avian Health: Holistic Approach' 'Yoga for Therapy'. Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./careermakeover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2004 Report Share Posted May 7, 2004 Raw food support, like this forum, is very important for staying raw. I have to occupy myself in a raw frame of mind if I want to be able to stay raw. rawfood , mary <marymassung> wrote: > Anne, > > IMHO, the reason it is so difficult to remain 100% raw > after attaining this goal in an institute is for the > very reasons you mention. People who feel good > generally try to go it on their own rather than pay > the fortune at an institue. From my understanding > (conversations with friends who have done what you > have done), the food and support at such places is > wonderful The sad part is, we rarely have such > support at home and don't know how to duplicate what > we ate by those wonderful raw food chefs. I believe in just eating whole, raw plant food with little or no processing. > > Since you don't plan on being 100% raw, you might be > interested in reading two books > > NUTRITION AND PHYSICAL DEGENERATION by Weston Price > TRADITIONAL FOODS ARE YOUR BEST MEDICINE by Schmidt > > These authors are not promoting raw diets. They are > promoting a return to a completely natural diet (as > was witness among more 'primative' societies). By > 'primative', I mean societies that do not have access > to supermarkets, while flour, etc. > > mary Rich New Forum: www.rawfoodeaters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Rich, It is not my intent to undermind the purpose of this group by any of the comments that I have made. I also believe that it is much easier to attain the goal of being a 100% raw fooder in a support situation than without one. Over the years, I have had vegans and raw fooders come to me for help with their children...who are so nutrient starved that they have major deficiencies. This did not have to happen. It was caused by ignorant ambition. It is possible for people to be very healthy and 100% raw fooders if they are willing to do so intelligently. Some people instinctively know their body's needs. Others do not. Some go 'cold turkey' with no problems while other develop deficiencies that set them back for years. Statistically, very few who achieve the status of 100% raw fooders are able to maintain the diet for more than 5 years ...not because it is not an acceptable and healthy diet but because they did so too quickly. I do not want to step on the toes of those who have succeeded. I want to counsel 'slow but steady' rather than 'fast but fail' to those who would not have adequate knowledge, want help, or need information. mary --- Rich Sachs <seconaphim wrote: > Raw food support, like this forum, is very important > for staying > raw. I have to occupy myself in a raw frame of mind > if I want to be > able to stay raw. > > rawfood , mary > <marymassung> wrote: > > Anne, > > > > IMHO, the reason it is so difficult to remain 100% > raw > > after attaining this goal in an institute is for > the > > very reasons you mention. People who feel good > > generally try to go it on their own rather than > pay > > the fortune at an institue. From my understanding > > (conversations with friends who have done what you > > have done), the food and support at such places is > > wonderful The sad part is, we rarely have such > > support at home and don't know how to duplicate > what > > we ate by those wonderful raw food chefs. > > I believe in just eating whole, raw plant food with > little or no > processing. > > > > > Since you don't plan on being 100% raw, you might > be > > interested in reading two books > > > > NUTRITION AND PHYSICAL DEGENERATION by Weston > Price > > TRADITIONAL FOODS ARE YOUR BEST MEDICINE by > Schmidt > > > > These authors are not promoting raw diets. They > are > > promoting a return to a completely natural diet > (as > > was witness among more 'primative' societies). By > > 'primative', I mean societies that do not have > access > > to supermarkets, while flour, etc. > > > > mary > > Rich > > New Forum: www.rawfoodeaters > > > ===== Mary, Luvie, Ranger, & the flying brigade A smile is a silent 'hello'. owner of 'The Fully Trained Working Dog' 'Avian Health: Holistic Approach' 'Yoga for Therapy'. Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./careermakeover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Discovering Weston A Price changed my life. I read his book about 3 1/2 years ago after years of trying to follow mainstream recommendations on dieting and supplements. I made a complete change after reading this book. Unfortunately, because of stressors I did not stay with it as strict as I'd like. And when fatigued and stressed I grabbed whatever food was most handy. However, I am a strong believer and follower of Price, his research and current organization. I want to incorporate his research and raw, which I find very compatible. I did not care for the other book for some reason; mostly I thought he capsulized things I already had info on in a more in-depth form. PErhaps it is because of the research PRice has his book it hit me hard enough to effect significant and long- lasting change in my life. Thank you for the suggestions, though.--a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 What consitutes a " fortune " is subject. Being sick is very expensive. I needed the insitute to envelop me in the lifestyle. Fortunately, I did have the means to stay longer than the 2 week course, but then, I do without other things instead. After 3-4 weeks it all began to feel very natural, and still does. So, it makes it 100% easier for me to aim and keep shooting for the raw goal. Getting back to the expense, we all makes choices as you noted in another post. I make a choice to spend my money on health, instead of a new car, vacation, or additional wardrobe. That's my choice. I have lived in a small shack so I could pay for health remedies. IT did not matter to me. Life is not so interesting without a relatively good heath.--a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Anne, In the early 90's, Price's book was out of print. Schmidt wrote his book to fill this gap. mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 You couldn't undermine the purpose of anyone. Speak freely. I don't know what those " vegans and raw fooders come to me for help with their children...who are so nutrient starved that they have major deficiencies " are feeding there children. I certainly believe there's no healthier diet for anyone at any age than a raw vegetarian one, but it does depend on how someone interprets that. I hope to be a five year man myself, of course. You can't step on any toes. Speak freely. rawfood , mary <marymassung> wrote: > Rich, > > It is not my intent to undermind the purpose of this > group by any of the comments that I have made. I also > believe that it is much easier to attain the goal of > being a 100% raw fooder in a support situation than > without one. > > Over the years, I have had vegans and raw fooders come > to me for help with their children...who are so > nutrient starved that they have major deficiencies. > This did not have to happen. It was caused by ignorant > ambition. It is possible for people to be very healthy > and 100% raw fooders if they are willing to do so > intelligently. Some people instinctively know their > body's needs. Others do not. Some go 'cold turkey' > with no problems while other develop deficiencies that > set them back for years. Statistically, very few who > achieve the status of 100% raw fooders are able to > maintain the diet for more than 5 years ...not because > it is not an acceptable and healthy diet but because > they did so too quickly. > > I do not want to step on the toes of those who have > succeeded. I want to counsel 'slow but steady' rather > than 'fast but fail' to those who would not have > adequate knowledge, want help, or need information. > > mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.