Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 In a message dated 5/13/2004 2:27:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, amadera656 writes: I am also hearing how we shouldnt overdo it with fats because of yeast. Hi Angela~ Virgin Coconut oil (organic) is excellent for yeast because it is very anti-fungal (contains caprylic acid). It also has many other benefits as well. What book did you get on it? I am trying to find more ways to incorporate it into my raw diet. Right now I use it in my smoothies in the AM. What info are you reading on yeast? Fats aren't as big of a concern with yeast as is sugars BUT the fats you should avoid are the trans-fats and fats from meats, dairy that are contaminated with toxins. You should not avoid the healthy fats in avocados, olives, and nuts. These are excellent for the body and are very healing. I hope that helps! Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Hey all~ There seem to be different schools of thought and it is confusing. Do you guys consume coconut oil? A woman from my local co-op gave me a jar of coconut oil as well as a nearly impossible to read book to accompany it. When I can stay awake long enough to scan a few pages I am able to gather that it has great cleansing properties, but then I am also hearing how we shouldnt overdo it with fats because of yeast. Help! You know what? before I was under the impression that if you were raw then you could really eat anything you wanted to eat, but now I am getting/feeling that maybe that isnt true. thanks Angela Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Angela You said we shouldnt overdo it with fats because of yeast. Help! You know what? before I was under the impression that if you were raw then you could really eat anything you wanted to eat, but now I am getting/feeling that maybe that isnt true. I was wondering if you have a yeast problem? Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Hi Sandy~ Thanks for your reply. The book is called " The healing miracle of coconut oil " by Bruce Fife. And this book totally absolutely supports what you are saying...that it has healing properties of many kinds. As for the yeast stuff... I am reading stuff online, but I know several women in my real life community that are currently on the candida diet as prescribed by a local naturopath. They see some of the stuff I eat (dates, coconuts+avocados,nuts) and are like " whoa! Candida! " . Anyway, yes that does help, thank you Angela FITJUNKIE wrote: Virgin Coconut oil (organic) is excellent for yeast because it is very anti-fungal (contains caprylic acid). It also has many other benefits as well. You should not avoid the healthy fats in avocados, olives, and nuts. I hope that helps! Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Hi Kathy~ I am unsure whether I have yeast or not. I lean towards " yes " . Alot of women in my life are currently on the candida diet. Prior to the raw diet I had many of the sypmtoms (fatigue, small red bumps on my arms, anger, frequent dips in energy, craving for vinegar, craving for bread, *depression*..more stuff on the checklist that I cant remember). While I still feel snappy and irritable sometimes, it is nowhere near how it used to be. My friend mentioned to me that 67% of Americans have candida because of diet. Can a raw diet alone cure candida? I would like to know conclusively and get tested, but I dont have the money right now. thanks Angela The Mitcheners <spiritfire wrote: I was wondering if you have a yeast problem? Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 My feeling on this is why not just eat some coconut and get the oil naturally? My thought when I hear of coconut oil is to make soap, lotion, or lip balm. I tried to eat it once thinking it would taste like coconut and would not do it again. YUCK! Mel rawfood , Angela LaMonte <amadera656> wrote: > Hey all~ > There seem to be different schools of thought and it is confusing. Do you guys consume coconut oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Everything outside of a simple, raw plant food diet is going to be confusing. I wonder why? Rich New Forum: www.rawfoodeaters rawfood , Angela LaMonte <amadera656> wrote: > Hey all~ > There seem to be different schools of thought and it is confusing. Do you guys consume coconut oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 I decided to give Dr Mercola's suggestion a try and ordered a tub of the VCO. I've been using it for about 6 months and eat a tablespoon or two of it in the morning. It tastes OK to me. I think you'd have to eat quite a lot of coconuts to get the amount of oil in two tablespoons. Besides, it's not always that easy getting fresh coconut around here. I went through trying to find them: for every two coconuts I bought, one was always bad, so I finally gave up. These were coconuts from Wild Oats and Trader Joes. Hard to find fresh coconuts these days... Jesse > rawfood , Angela LaMonte <amadera656> > wrote: > > Hey all~ > > There seem to be different schools of thought and it is > confusing. Do you guys consume coconut oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 My feeling on this is why not just eat some coconut and get the oil naturally? My thought when I hear of coconut oil is to make soap, lotion, or lip balm. I tried to eat it once thinking it would taste like coconut and would not do it again. YUCK! Mel Ahh me too Mel..yuck! LOL I am using mine as a moisturizer. Have a great day Toni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Why not eat everything as it is, without trying to process it for oil, juice, higher quantity, etc., and get the nutrition from it that way? Rich New Forum: www.rawfoodeaters rawfood , bandbcollection <no_reply> wrote: > My feeling on this is why not just eat some coconut and get the oil > naturally? My thought when I hear of coconut oil is to make soap, > lotion, or lip balm. I tried to eat it once thinking it would taste > like coconut and would not do it again. YUCK! > > Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 In a message dated 5/13/2004 10:02:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, amadera656 writes: As for the yeast stuff... I am reading stuff online, but I know several women in my real life community that are currently on the candida diet as prescribed by a local naturopath. They see some of the stuff I eat (dates, coconuts+avocados,nuts) and are like " whoa! Candida! " . Hi Angela~ I understand this completely. I actually have a group for candida sufferers and have had it and it's complications throughout my life. Now that I am all raw, I have been able to add back the fruit, dates, coconuts, nuts (some fear these because of molds), etc. I think it has a lot to do with what these raw healthy foods are combined with. I still stay away from fruit juices and am very careful about food combining. This seems to work for me. When I was still eating cooked alternative grains, I could not add these foods into my diet as they bothered me. One of the main issues with candida is lack of proper digestion of food particles. Being raw helps this immensely as well as taking enzymes. Many candida sufferers are enzyme depleted. Because most of the people I help are not anywhere close to a raw diet, I cannot recommend fruit or dried fruits as they would immediately cause problems. If you have backed up undigested fermenting food in your gut, then adding fruit and/or high fatty (mostly the toxin containing fats) foods to it will cause more problems. However if you are getting a good supply of enzymes from raw food to break things down and a decent amount of insoluble fiber from raw veggies to push it through, then fruit serves as an aid in cleansing, not a hinderance! Hope that helps! Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 In a message dated 5/13/2004 10:16:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, amadera656 writes: Can a raw diet alone cure candida? Hi again Angela~ The body heals itself when given the proper nutrients to do so. I believe the body can cure candida with raw diet alone. I believe it would most likely take around 3 years 100% raw to do so but I believe it is possible. Some cleanses along with the raw diet could speed things up. I think it depends how faithful you are to eating raw. Being consistant is everything! Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 In a message dated 5/13/2004 10:43:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes: I tried to eat it once thinking it would taste like coconut and would not do it again. YUCK! I think it is the same with Olive oil. I don't know of too many people eating olive oil straight and not too many olive oils taste the same as the whole olive. I do enjoy using olive oil in my salad dressings and don't plan on consuming the whole olives all the time just to get the benefits of the oil. It is the same with coconut. I like to use coconut meat, water for some things and the oil for others! Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 I started out not liking the taste, but now I look forward to my 2 tbsps a day! maybe it is fat addiction. I see what you mean though...how many coconuts would one have to eat to get 2 tbsp of coconut fat? and following that logic...it would seem that we shouldnt consume more than we would be able to naturally without some sort of odd consequence. Humans are so funny! I am making myself laugh today~~~ thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it. oh! I do use the oil for my face and lips. Angela bandbcollection <no_reply > wrote: My feeling on this is why not just eat some coconut and get the oil naturally? My thought when I hear of coconut oil is to make soap, lotion, or lip balm. I tried to eat it once thinking it would taste like coconut and would not do it again. YUCK! Mel Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Hi Jesse~ Do you *feel* any different using the c.oil? Another person told me that it is the only oil that is a cleanser (and dha) instead of a water based cleanser. so confusing. anyway, yes I have gotten a couple of bad coconuts too~ thanks Angela studio53 <studio53 wrote: I went through trying to find them: for every two coconuts I bought, one was always bad, so I finally gave up. Jesse Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 The candida's favourite food is sugar and fat in combination. Sweet fats such as donuts are the worst. If you use coconut fat, don't eat fruit in the same meal. Everone has candida. It has symbiotic function so we don't want to get rid of it, just keep it under control.It's just when it overruns the GIT that it becomes a problem. In a proper intestinal environment it stays in check and in it's place. If candida's a problem, eat sparingly so the body has time to digest one piece of fruit before you have another. One serving at a time and one food at a time. Feed the body, not the candida. rusty - <FITJUNKIE <rawfood > Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:21 PM Re: [Raw Food] coconut oil question > In a message dated 5/13/2004 10:02:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, > amadera656 writes: > As for the yeast stuff... I am reading stuff online, but I know several women > in my real life community that are currently on the candida diet as > prescribed by a local naturopath. They see some of the stuff I eat (dates, > coconuts+avocados,nuts) and are like " whoa! Candida! " . > Hi Angela~ > > I understand this completely. I actually have a group for candida sufferers > and have had it and it's complications throughout my life. Now that I am all > raw, I have been able to add back the fruit, dates, coconuts, nuts (some fear > these because of molds), etc. I think it has a lot to do with what these raw > healthy foods are combined with. I still stay away from fruit juices and am > very careful about food combining. This seems to work for me. When I was > still eating cooked alternative grains, I could not add these foods into my diet > as they bothered me. One of the main issues with candida is lack of proper > digestion of food particles. Being raw helps this immensely as well as taking > enzymes. Many candida sufferers are enzyme depleted. Because most of the > people I help are not anywhere close to a raw diet, I cannot recommend fruit or > dried fruits as they would immediately cause problems. If you have backed up > undigested fermenting food in your gut, then adding fruit and/or high fatty > (mostly the toxin containing fats) foods to it will cause more problems. However if > you are getting a good supply of enzymes from raw food to break things down > and a decent amount of insoluble fiber from raw veggies to push it through, > then fruit serves as an aid in cleansing, not a hinderance! > > Hope that helps! > Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hey thats true~ I wouldnt enjoy eating/drinking olive oil,and I love olives. I have been eating the most delicious salads bc of this new dressing with olive oil. I am crazy crazy about this salad dressing, but it does call for celtic sea salt. Angela FITJUNKIE wrote: I think it is the same with Olive oil. I don't know of too many people eating olive oil straight and not too many olive oils taste the same as the whole olive. I do enjoy using olive oil in my salad dressings and don't plan on consuming the whole olives all the time just to get the benefits of the oil. Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Thanks Sandy, Kathy, and Rusty for your really informative posts on candida. And wow, thanks for that candida questionaire. I am a match for so many of those sypmtoms. The interesting thing is that even though I am not 100% raw 7 days a week, I still feel an alleviation of those symptoms. Not 100%, like my diet, but a great deal. I need a larger mailbox. There are so many posts that i feel I need to save. I guess I could just go to the site and delete everything. thanks again Angela FITJUNKIE wrote: I have been able to add back the fruit, dates, coconuts, nuts (some fear these because of molds), etc. I think it has a lot to do with what these raw healthy foods are combined with. I still stay away from fruit juices and am very careful about food combining. Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 No, I don't feel any different, but I started this whole raw food lifestyle back in Jan 04 so I am gradually just feeling better period. Who knows, maybe some of that is from the coconut " earl. " Jesse - " Angela LaMonte " <amadera656 <rawfood > Thursday, May 13, 2004 3:16 PM Re: [Raw Food] Re: coconut oil question > Hi Jesse~ > Do you *feel* any different using the c.oil? Another person told me that it is the only oil that is a cleanser (and dha) instead of a water based cleanser. so confusing. > anyway, yes I have gotten a couple of bad coconuts too~ > thanks > Angela Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 So that means no coconut oil for you?! It is amazing how similiar we are as a people...I have been having vivid dreams which isnt very typical of me ,and I totally didnt link it to raw foods. Angela Rich Sachs <seconaphim wrote: Everything outside of a simple, raw plant food diet is going to be confusing. I wonder why? SBC - Internet access at a great low price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hi You said Can a raw diet alone cure candida? I would like to know conclusively and get tested, but I am not sure. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 rawfood , Angela LaMonte <amadera656> wrote: > So that means no coconut oil for you?! Yes, indeed. > It is amazing how similiar we are as a people...I have been having vivid dreams which isnt very typical of me ,and I totally didnt link it to raw foods. > Angela I think it's just a huge mental clearing going on in me. I think the goal is to be dreamless, just get a straight four hours or so of blackout sleep. The clearing process though could be a lot of years adventure. Rich New Forum: www.rawfoodeaters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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