Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 rawfood , Jason Coon <jcoon@c...> wrote: > Hello, I have been wondering why among humans vegetarianism & especially > raw veganism is so very rare, especially when viewed from a historical > perspective. because God isn't pushy (who do you think prods you to raw anyway?) and cooked food is " believed " to be love in the eyes of most. It isn't, but you couldn't convince them of that (because God isn't pushy). > As far as I know, & this may be wrong, with the few exceptions of some > Asian Indians, an indigenous culture in what is today Iran, & part of > the time & places in medieval Europe, humans did not seem to be > vegetarians. > > > In looking at the Indians & peasant Europeans their dietary choices were > dictated either by the avoidance of bad karma, or oppressive economics. > Both of those groups cook(ed) their food & ate grain(s) or seeds. When > given complete freedom humans appear to behaviourly, at least, prefer a > diet based on animal flesh then strictly plants. > > Given how energized I begin to feel when on a raw vegan diet (hunger & > weird dreams aside) would not a tribe eating such a diet be at > significant advantage over their meat, or cooked plant eating counterparts? I'm hungry for addictive food and my dream life definitely gets weird and vivid in the early stages of getting raw again. As for past cultures, there are reasons and answers, but who cares? Man's an immature little beast growing as best he can and hardly knows what he should like or shouldn't like in God's will. For that matter, he hardly has a concept of God. We're at a stage of civilization where we're shifting over to how the human should eat, raw plant food. Being as technologically progressed as we are after a million years has a lot to do with it. I am communicating over a computer, aren't I? Rich New Forum: www.rawfoodeaters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Regarding the lack of raw vegans in other cultures, one could also wonder why there are so many substance addicts in many different cultures. -Kathy - kraine - <rawfood > <rawfood > Thursday, May 13, 2004 6:47 AM [Raw Food] Digest Number 758 > > There are 25 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Sleep question > " Mary Ellen Wolfe " <Wolfegang > 2. Re: Seaweed! (was: fish for pregnancy?) > " Tara " <taburner > 3. Re: Lurkers, new members, and trolls > " esscential " <esscential > 4. Alkalizing/Acidifying food list site ( for Sandy ) > BilletDoux003 > 5. Re: Seaweed! (was: fish for pregnancy?) > tlgjjr1 > 6. Re: Lurkers, new members, and trolls > orionsdad > 7. Re: Bounced posts > orionsdad > 8. Re: Digest Number 756 > " Rich Sachs " <seconaphim > 9. Re: PROTEIN > " Rich Sachs " <seconaphim > 10. Re: my fast > Mahendra Agarwal <BRIKSHALAL > 11. Re: Seaweed! (was: fish for pregnancy?) > Megan Milligan <yasminduran > 12. Re: testing my e-mail > " Bob & Breezi " <bobandbreezi > 13. Re: my fast > alex <telecom > 14. Sea Veggies! > jennysilliman > 15. corn chip recipe? > Margie Roswell <mroswell > 16. Re: Re: Lurkers, new members, and trolls > " studio53 " <studio53 > 17. Re: Re: Sleep question > Angela LaMonte <amadera656 > 18. Re: Sleep question > Angela LaMonte <amadera656 > 19. Re: Digest Number 756 > Angela LaMonte <amadera656 > 20. Re: Sleep question > Angela LaMonte <amadera656 > 21. nagging question > Jason Coon <jcoon > 22. coconut oil question > Angela LaMonte <amadera656 > 23. Re: coconut oil question > FITJUNKIE > 24. Re: About Sea Vegetables > " Rich Sachs " <seconaphim > 25. Re: Sleep question > " Rich Sachs " <seconaphim > > > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 1 > Wed, 12 May 2004 13:33:41 -0400 > " Mary Ellen Wolfe " <Wolfegang > Re: Sleep question > > Hi. I'm glad that you posted this question because it made me aware of a couple things. While I have not noticed so much of a difference in my sleep patterns at night, I have noticed that I no longer need an afternoon nap, which I needed everyday to get me through the evening. Also, I have noticed that I no longer feel sleepy when I drive. > Peace, ~*~Mary Ellen~*~ > - > Angela LaMonte > rawfood > Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:43 PM > [Raw Food] Sleep question > > > Hello~ > In the first week of doing raw I noticed an immediate change in my sleep pattern. Sleep has been a big issue for me all of my life. With raw I fell asleep faster,needed less sleep, and woke up clear headed and refreshed. That has waned some. Do you all experience this new kind of sleep, or do you still need alot of sleep at night? > thanks in advance > Angela > > > > > > > Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 After so many generations over thousands of years, and then a lifetime (or a portion thereof) of eating animal foods (and cooked foods) it can be a tough habbit to break. If we had been raised on plant-based foods, I doubt we'd have an interest in grabbing, killing and eating a chicken or other animal (even after several decades of eating meats, that does not appeal to me. Never did. Only those plastic wrapped packages of meat at the store did, or the finished recipe on a dish.) Jeff >Hi Jason you wrote: " When given complete freedom humans appear to >behaviourly, at least, prefer a diet based on animal flesh then strictly >plants. " And then you asked for ideas. My idea is that owning animals is a >sign of wealth and perhaps that is our clue. Humans " keeping up with the >Joneses " at the expense of their health. -Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Non-raw food eaters are addicts who just aren't suffering enough awareness or guilt or trauma in their lives, or weight gain or whatever to change. For that matter, anything that goes into the body and isn't raw food will be addictive. That which isn't meant to be done multiplies endlessly. That which is, is simple, final, easy and non-excessive. Rich New Forum: www.rawfoodeaters rawfood , " Kathy Raine " <kraine@u...> wrote: > Regarding the lack of raw vegans in other cultures, > one could also wonder why there are so many substance addicts in many > different cultures. > -Kathy > - > kraine@u... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 I like Jack LaLanne's way of thinking.. " " If I can't pronounce it,itdoes'nt go in my mouth " " " - Rich Sachs rawfood Friday, May 14, 2004 8:19 AM [Raw Food] Re: nagging question For that matter, anything that goes into the body and isn't raw food will be addictive. to: rawfood- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Finally, a sane view. Thank you Jeff. Rich New Forum: www.rawfoodeaters rawfood , Jeff Rogers <jeff@s...> wrote: > After so many generations over thousands of years, and then a > lifetime (or a portion thereof) of eating animal foods (and cooked > foods) it can be a tough habbit to break. If we had been raised on > plant-based foods, I doubt we'd have an interest in grabbing, killing > and eating a chicken or other animal (even after several decades of > eating meats, that does not appeal to me. Never did. Only those > plastic wrapped packages of meat at the store did, or the finished > recipe on a dish.) > > Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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