Guest guest Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Hi Autumn, Thank you for your lovely message. It sounds like you are doing wonderfully on the raw vegan journey, and it is fortunate that your husband is so supportive and interested in going vegan. It is often so difficult in our world to keep from getting discouraged. We see all around us that indeed life is all downhill in individuals after a certain age. And in all of us, damage has been done. But the body has remarkable regenerative powers! The body is truly miraculous, and the main factor in the length and quality of life is the amount of the vitality, or nerve energy, that is present in the body. Most children have tons of vitality, and that vitality is dissipated as life goes on, by enervating habits. Certainly a large part of that enervation is the effect of the SAD diet--up to 80% of the energy used by the body goes into digestion on a SAD diet. That is one of the benefits of the fruitarian diet, digestion uses up so little energy. Another problem of course with the SAD diet is that it is so toxic, and the body is constantly in a state of emergency, trying to eliminate or stash the overwhelming amount of substances ingested which threaten the life of the body. On a fruitarian diet, the body goes to work to clean house, and to repair the damage that has been done, and the result is such a sense of rejuvenation, revitalization! Even while we are experiencing the discomfort of this detoxification, we are feeling even in the intensity of the symptoms, the re-assertion of the vitality of the body, finally unsuppressed. Yes, damage has been done, in all of us, and there may be a limit to the regenerative capacity of the body. But then again, maybe there is not. Which of us can tell how much and how thoroughly our bodies can rejuvenate and regenerate? We can never know until we experience it. The body is truly miraculous, and its goal throughout life is to not only keep us alive, but to live as long as possible, and in as perfect health as possible, and in as joyous a sense of well-being as possible. It all depends upon the vitality in the body. The body naturally conserves vitality, and seeks to re-generate it. We do this by supplying the conditions of life, and by eliminating the conditions which do the opposite. The conditions of life include fresh air (keep windows open whenever possible, and spend time outside), sunshine, pure food (the fruitarian diet is the purest), pure water (the purest water is in fruit), exercise, as happy and nurturing an environment as possible. And perhaps the most key and most neglected condition of life, plenty of sleep and rest. When we look at adult animals, especially in what's left of the wild, we see that they do not waste energy, they sleep whenever possible. Dr. Herbert Shelton said that most, if not all, healing occurs during sleep, the remainder during rest. And nerve energy, the source of vitality in the body, is only regenerated during sleep and rest. In our modern world, we are constantly engaged in activity and stress, depleting our vitality, when it is the opposite that is necessary to our longevity and quality of life, our feeling of aliveness. It is popular among raw fooders to speak of " deficiencies " , despite the fact that when one goes on a raw vegan diet, it is probably the first time in one's life (except for during a breastfed babyhood) that one is really being thoroughly nourished, so it is ironic that so many raw fooders are so easily spooked into believing that they are " deficient " in some nutrient by eating a raw vegan diet. What in fact is a true deficiency that most people have is a deficiency of sleep and rest, nearly all of us have sleep deficits. Plenty of sleep and rest are absolutely vital to healing and cleansing. In fact, people go on fasts, either on water alone as is done on actual fasting; or else on what they call " juice fasts " or " cleanses " --these types of regimens are not fasting and are counter to health; but fasting is of no benefit without rest. Actual fasting is a cessation of all voluntary activity and total rest, and should be done only when the body directs us to do so. But we need plenty of rest and sleep throughout our lives, and the more we get, the more we regenerate. We cannot sleep if the body does not need it- -so we can never " oversleep " . For more info, see http://www.healself.org/rest.html There is lots of life ahead for us as we embark on the raw vegan journey, in our own way, and at our own pace, exploring the deeper layers of health as we strip away our former hindrances. We are meant to live at least to 140 years of age, in vitality and health, and perhaps way beyond. There are those, in fact, who tell us that we don't need to die at all, and I'm a believer in that hopeful scenario Much success and health to you. Zsuzsa rawfood , athdesign@j... wrote: > Zsuzsa, > > Thanks for all this great information, I can use it as well. I've been > vegan for about 4-5 months now. Although I eat very little grain or > legume, I would still like to eliminate these from my diet all together. > My diet is about 60% raw on average, although in the past week it been > about 80%. It is so nice to have a wealth of information to learn from. > My husband is supportive and is trying to go vegan. He does well for a > couple weeks, then slips. But then again, he is learning late. As he is > 20 years older than I, he feels that his " damage has been done " and that > nothing is going to reverse it. I feel is it never too late to pursue > optimal health and told him he would feel so much better in his latter > years if he were to get his diet under control for good. Sometimes I > feel, at 37, that my own damage has been done as well (I smoked heavily > for 20 years). But each morning I wake up, I feel better than I have in > a long time. I pray the next 37 years are much better than the first, > healthwise. > > Thanks again for all the great info and links. > Autumn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 " southladogs " wrote: > Hi Autumn, > > Dr. Herbert Shelton said that most, if > not all, healing occurs during sleep, the remainder during rest. And > nerve energy, the source of vitality in the body, is only > regenerated during sleep and rest. Scientifically this is not quite a true statement. Cellular regeneration and growth are related to heart rate activity. A heart rate below 75 beats per minutes is restorative above 75-80 beats per minute there is cellular breakdown and " stress " . Oddly enough, you must take your heart rate up over 130 to lower your heart rate significantly. As a result the object of the game is to have physically train yourself to have as low a resting heart rate as possible. It's about balance. Too much rest as well as olympic workouts are both too extreme. Each person must start from where they are and use their heart rate as a guide. > > There is lots of life ahead for us as we embark on the raw vegan > journey, in our own way, and at our own pace, exploring the deeper > layers of health as we strip away our former hindrances. We are > meant to live at least to 140 years of age, in vitality and health, > and perhaps way beyond. There are those, in fact, who tell us that > we don't need to die at all, and I'm a believer in that hopeful > scenario One of the fallacies to over concern for the food you eat is that one actually begins to believe that they are in fact the body. The body is merely a temple housing the real you - and no matter what you may hope for, the body isn't designed to last forever. The body is a vehicle that allows you to experience earth school - learn the lessons of love - and stop coming back!!! So you really never die - just shed your skin. > > Much success and health to you. > And back to you - Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2004 Report Share Posted June 25, 2004 Zsuzsa, Thank you again for a very thought-provoking post. I feel guilty about asking questions in the future now that I see how much time and energy you put into responding. LOL The one part of my life that has always been " messed up " is my sleep patterns. I was constantly harrassed (yes, harrassed) by my parents for not sleeping on the same schedule as they did. They threatened to put me into a sleep clinic because they thought I slept too much (7-9 hours). I was awakened many mornings with water thrown in my face. As a result, I am a very nervous sleeper. Some weeks I will sleep only 3 to 4 hours a night, and I never sleep more than 6.5 hours at a time. I feel guilty for sleeping, guilty that I'm not getting something else done. I rarely rest because my mother always accused me of being lazy when I sat down as a child/teen. The rare times I do take a little rest or nap, I wake up irritable and guilty for " wasting time. " I am trying hard to rid myself of the destructive patterns that have been part of my life for many many years. I guess I have to be patient and listen to my body. Since my parents are now 1100 miles away, they don't know when I'm sleeping. Autumn On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:50:10 -0000 " southladogs " <southladogs writes: Hi Autumn, Thank you for your lovely message. It sounds like you are doing wonderfully on the raw vegan journey, and it is fortunate that your husband is so supportive and interested in going vegan. It is often so difficult in our world to keep from getting discouraged. We see all around us that indeed life is all downhill in individuals after a certain age. And in all of us, damage has been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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