Guest guest Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 i have read and believe that table salt and seasalt are toxic to our body. a good read is a book called the salt conspiracy. ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Hi Ruth, Although I haven't read the book yet, I've taken notes from various speakers' at workshops I've attended. Condiments and spices such as salt, garlic, pepper etc. are all known to be stimulants and really irritates to our bodies, rendering them toxic. It is only suggested to be used during our transition period from SAD to RAW. Once we've learned what F & V's render those tastes that we are requiring we will no longer crave those things. I have, however, discovered the wonders of celery and how to use it as salt. Just to name a few people whom I've met and had workshops with or studied their literature, who absolutely do not use seasonings of sorts are: Doug Graham Roz Gruben Loren Lockman Arnold of www.arnoldsway.com Frederic Patenaude and I believe Herbert Shelton (pioneer of natural hygiene) coya4321 wrote: i have read and believe that table salt and seasalt are toxic to our body. a good read is a book called the salt conspiracy. ruth Good Health to You Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 I agree. The Natural Hygiene school of thought particularly does not recommend salt or other condiments. I could add two more names to your list: Dr Bernarr (www.healself.org) Roger Haeske (www.superbeing.com) Abundant health and sunshine, Bharti -- Bharti Padmanabhan bharti_padmanabhan Miraculous Raw Vegan Experience - My Testimony: http://www.thegardendiet.com/bharti/ " E. Rice-Fells " <shortydemp wrote: Hi Ruth, Although I haven't read the book yet, I've taken notes from various speakers' at workshops I've attended. Condiments and spices such as salt, garlic, pepper etc. are all known to be stimulants and really irritates to our bodies, rendering them toxic. It is only suggested to be used during our transition period from SAD to RAW. Once we've learned what F & V's render those tastes that we are requiring we will no longer crave those things. I have, however, discovered the wonders of celery and how to use it as salt. Just to name a few people whom I've met and had workshops with or studied their literature, who absolutely do not use seasonings of sorts are: Doug Graham Roz Gruben Loren Lockman Arnold of www.arnoldsway.com Frederic Patenaude and I believe Herbert Shelton (pioneer of natural hygiene) coya4321 wrote: i have read and believe that table salt and seasalt are toxic to our body. a good read is a book called the salt conspiracy. ruth Good Health to You Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 In a message dated 11/29/2004 10:49:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, rawfood writes: Hi Ruth, Although I haven't read the book yet, I've taken notes from various speakers' at workshops I've attended. Condiments and spices such as salt, garlic, pepper etc. are all known to be stimulants and really irritates to our bodies, rendering them toxic. ********************** i agree. when i go with no salt at all for a while then eat anything with the slightest salt i get the worst bags under my eyes. salt is toxic--not natural sodium like in fruits and veggies but seasalt and table salt. ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Iron is toxic to our bodies. Do we need iron? Yes. The continued denouncing of salt as bad by raw foodists is nonsense. The human body needs salt. In fact, cells use salt to unwind proteins during cellular processes such as cell reproduction. Salt is used for many other functions, as well. It is toxic or poisonous when it is over consumed. Let's stop the spread of falsehoods. regards, tev --- coya4321 wrote: > > > i have read and believe that table salt and seasalt > are toxic to our body. > a good read is a book called the salt conspiracy. > ruth ===== [...there'll be love and laughter, and peace ever after, just you wait and see... ---Vera Lynn] The all-new My - What will yours do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Hi Tev, Just my 2 cents on what I have read about salt & sodium.......our bodies need the organic sodium we get from plant life.......not sodium chloride (table/sea salt). There IS a big difference. I would hope that our new raw friends would check into this further. Ruth said in her post of Sunday 11-28 that you can find this information in a book called The Salt Conspiracy. Dr Doug Graham has good info on sodium. The information that is written about sea salt being good for you is published by the sea salt companies...duh! Just like the meat and dairy industries promoting that we can only get quality protein and calcium from meat and dairy. Breezi _____ tev treowlufu [coac2002] Monday, November 29, 2004 3:44 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: seasalt Iron is toxic to our bodies. Do we need iron? Yes. The continued denouncing of salt as bad by raw foodists is nonsense. The human body needs salt. In fact, cells use salt to unwind proteins during cellular processes such as cell reproduction. Salt is used for many other functions, as well. It is toxic or poisonous when it is over consumed. Let's stop the spread of falsehoods. regards, tev --- coya4321 wrote: > > > i have read and believe that table salt and seasalt > are toxic to our body. > a good read is a book called the salt conspiracy. > ruth ===== [...there'll be love and laughter, and peace ever after, just you wait and see... ---Vera Lynn] The all-new My - What will yours do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 rawfood , " Bob & Breezi " <bobandbreezi@h...> wrote: > Hi Tev, > > Just my 2 cents on what I have read about salt & sodium.......our bodies > need the organic sodium we get from plant life.......not sodium chloride > (table/sea salt). There IS a big difference. I would hope that our new raw > friends would check into this further. Ruth said in her post of Sunday 11-28 > that you can find this information in a book called The Salt Conspiracy. Dr > Doug Graham has good info on sodium. The information that is written about > sea salt being good for you is published by the sea salt companies...duh! > Just like the meat and dairy industries promoting that we can only get > quality protein and calcium from meat and dairy. > Breezi > > _____ > > tev treowlufu [coac2002] > Monday, November 29, 2004 3:44 PM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Re: seasalt > > > > Iron is toxic to our bodies. > Do we need iron? Yes. > > The continued denouncing of salt as bad > by raw foodists is nonsense. > > The human body needs salt. In fact, cells use > salt to unwind proteins during cellular processes such > as cell reproduction. Salt is used for many other > functions, as well. > > It is toxic or poisonous when it is over consumed. > > Let's stop the spread of falsehoods. > > regards, > > tev > I think he was saying we get all the sodium we need from plants, not that we don't need sodium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Breezi: Living organisms need sodium chloride for body functions. We are sodium chloride life forms. We came from the sea. Our bodies carry the sea within themselves. If you have any evidence showing otherwise, I should like to see it. I know Doug Graham's position. He claims salt is poison. Pure rubbish. Just about any substance can become a poison when in excess. It is a nutrient the body needs just as it needs other nutrients. It is the overuse of salt that is causing the problems. We need iodine, right? Isn't iodine a poison? Yes. It is toxic. According to your logic, Breezi, a strawberry farmer and marketer, who promotes his product with data about his product, has a conflict of interest, and therefore, his data is suspect, so we shouldn't buy strawberries. Is that reasonable? I would suggest that there maybe a small amount of hyperbole (by a producer/seller), but most of the data would be correct. It makes more sense to attack a salt producer/seller for not supplying data about the dangers of overconsumption of salt, rather than attack the useful and factual information it provides. If Doug Graham or his sources have factual data showing that the human body does not need salt (NACL) for its metabolic processes, let them present it; rather than cause people to pass around innuendos. We can haggle over analogies all day; but none us can change that fact that we are sodium chloride life forms. tev BTW, the body doesn't just use the sodium, it uses the chloride too. --- Bob & Breezi <bobandbreezi wrote: > > Hi Tev, > > Just my 2 cents on what I have read about salt & > sodium.......our bodies > need the organic sodium we get from plant > life.......not sodium chloride > (table/sea salt). There IS a big difference. I would > hope that our new raw > friends would check into this further. Ruth said in > her post of Sunday 11-28 > that you can find this information in a book called > The Salt Conspiracy. Dr > Doug Graham has good info on sodium. The information > that is written about > sea salt being good for you is published by the sea > salt companies...duh! > Just like the meat and dairy industries promoting > that we can only get > quality protein and calcium from meat and dairy. > Breezi ===== [...there'll be love and laughter, and peace ever after, just you wait and see... ---Vera Lynn] Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 On Tue, Nov 30, 2004 at 02:37:59PM -0800, tev treowlufu wrote: > > BTW, the body doesn't just use the sodium, it uses the > chloride too. So when food is said to have sodium, does that mean just that? Like celery contains sodium. Does it also have sodium chloride? Technically they are absolutly different, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2004 Report Share Posted December 1, 2004 Tev wrote: < Living organisms need sodium chloride for body functions. We are sodium chloride life forms. We came from the sea. Our bodies carry the sea within themselves. If you have any evidence showing otherwise, I should like to see it. > Tev, I'm not here to argue with you but just as I said, " add my 2 cents " . I don't have time to look up all the recourses where I have read the things that I believe to be truth for me. What I am saying is that we get all the vitamins and minerals we need from plant life and I don't feel we need to eat dried sea water. I have never heard that " we came from the sea " . I guess if you believe that you are a descendent from a sea creature then that is your choice. I personally do not believe I came from the sea and my evidence is the Bible (but we are not here to discuss religion). When I eat any type of salt other that the sodium from plant life I am so puffed up the next day my hands and feet are painful. So, I guess to each his own. I just think that anyone starting out trying to learn about the raw food lifestyle should be encouraged to read as much as possible and do what works best for their bodies. Breezi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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