Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I'm on my 6th day of raw and have been feeling very " spaced out! " For lack of a better word. I'm used to doing various cleanses and detox programs, and understand all about cleansing reactions...but this raw food diet has me really spacey. Passing my exits, forgetting things, feeling depressed. I've had IBS for years and would have to use a mini cleanse every few days to get totally cleaned out...been trying not to do that but to let nature take it's course. Even though I still " go " once a day I could tell I am not totally voiding. Woke up with another migraine and been going to the bathroom off and on all day, usual MO...had to take an OTC migraine med. Tried not taking them for three months and the migraines would put me in bed for 2 days and vomit. Argh! Hate to take drugs, vicious circle. Hope the raw foods will overcome this. Maybe I need to do another 3-5 day Jensen bowel cleanse and THEN start over with all raw foods. Everytime I would do a cleanse in the past, I would begin to eat cooked foods and grains and some meats. So maybe there are some toxins trapped in there and the raw food diet is stirring things up? OR will just staying on a raw diet clean me out and heal me naturally and simply? Diana of Dewberry Hill P.S. Are you " raw-ies " gonna get on my case for using psyllium? An unsprouted grain? Taken with the clay and apple juce cleanse it has worked wonders for me in the past. Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Hi, Diana, sorry to hear about the migraines and all. I guess my vote would be to just stick to the all raw diet and let your body heal slowly and gently. According to some sources, cleanses are really not so helpful and can actually delay healing or even cause some damage on their own. I've treated my body fairly harshly over the years trying to get myself healthy or in better shape, and I'm now finding that going slowly and gently works a whole lot better for me. Just some thoughts....Here is a link to a website on colonics that I think gives some good background on why it can be better to avoid some of these cleanses: http://www.rawschool.com/colonics.htm . Dr. Doug Graham and Dr. Joel Fuhrman also discourage the use of cleanses, and you might want to take a look at their material before making a decision. I know some folks find them helpful, but I guess I'm on the other side of this particular fence! Hope you feel better soon. Peace, Valerie Diana of Dewberry Hill <cozad76078 wrote: I'm on my 6th day of raw and have been feeling very " spaced out! " For lack of a better word. I'm used to doing various cleanses and detox programs, and understand all about cleansing reactions...but this raw food diet has me really spacey. Passing my exits, forgetting things, feeling depressed. I've had IBS for years and would have to use a mini cleanse every few days to get totally cleaned out...been trying not to do that but to let nature take it's course. Even though I still " go " once a day I could tell I am not totally voiding. Woke up with another migraine and been going to the bathroom off and on all day, usual MO...had to take an OTC migraine med. Tried not taking them for three months and the migraines would put me in bed for 2 days and vomit. Argh! Hate to take drugs, vicious circle. Hope the raw foods will overcome this. Maybe I need to do another 3-5 day Jensen bowel cleanse and THEN start over with all raw foods. Everytime I would do a cleanse in the past, I would begin to eat cooked foods and grains and some meats. So maybe there are some toxins trapped in there and the raw food diet is stirring things up? OR will just staying on a raw diet clean me out and heal me naturally and simply? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Thanks Valerie, I have not done many clonics lately as I think I have a stricture and they don't work very well with that anyway. But it's the psyllium/clay/ apple juice cleanse that worked so well, but as long as I'm still having movements, I think I'll just keep eating raw and let nature take it's course. I guess the spaced out-ness is just part of the healing/ cleansing process. Diana Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I've had spacey days, too, but more and more I'm experiencing times of more energy and clarity, which is most encouraging! The spaciness still has its moments, but it's becoming more rare. Peace, Valerie Diana of Dewberry Hill <cozad76078 wrote: Thanks Valerie, I have not done many clonics lately as I think I have a stricture and they don't work very well with that anyway. But it's the psyllium/clay/ apple juice cleanse that worked so well, but as long as I'm still having movements, I think I'll just keep eating raw and let nature take it's course. I guess the spaced out-ness is just part of the healing/ cleansing process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Diana, I am responding to your post and several others from the last few weeks. I have noticed that many of the posts indicate very few on this list have been to the files section of this group. There are a number of very good sites referred to in the files that will answer almost all the questions I notice most people new to raw have. Since there appear to be so many different orientations to raw, not everything will be applicable, ie. fruitarians, vegan only, juicers only, etc. Personally, due to my belief in God and His infinite and trustworthy, know all things character, I base my beliefs in the Biblical diet of Eden. God designed the foods before He created the beings that would eat them. One of the files sections contains a link to Halelluia Acres, a site based on the Biblical diet with many explanations of the whys and wherefores of aspects of the diet. There are many testimonies on the sight from many people with a background of various maladies including migraines. I also know a number of people including Nomi Shannon, a well know raw gourmet chef and teacher, who spent a great deal of time with the Ann Wigmore program in Florida for her healing. There are many things that enter into the scope of good health. Diet is important because that is the stuff we put into our bodies, but obviously, I agree adequate exercise, sunlight, purified air and water are also contributors. Cleansing is dealt with by H. Acres with the explanation that cooked foods just don't always move through the intestines very well, and in fact the fecal matter adheres to the intestinal walls blocking nutrients from getting into the blood stream. As a former medical practicioner I can tell you that there are people in his world that have had 26 feet of fecal matter escape after using Fibrecleanse. These are people that only have (had) a bowel movement once every 6 months or so...hard to believe! Once cleansed the raw diet provides sufficient fiber that acts as a brush in the intestine (it is not harmful and doesn't compromise the intestinal wall as some posts have suggested, otherwise you would not be able to successfully consume any raw foods as they all contain fiber). And finally, there is a very good book on water, titled " Your Body's Many Cries For Water " , by Dr. Batmanghelidj. He explains how chronic and progressive dehydration leads to migraines, osteoporosis, and many other human maladies. Since none of us have the time to be experts in all things, it becomes important to find knowledgeable people (experts even) that have the " credentials " to support their claims. I have noticed a number of posts recently that are nothing more than uneducated opinions about areas of knowledge that the author's explanation show they don't have a clue about what they are talking about. Unknowledgeable people buy into that without knowing that the writer really knows nothing. It becomes the blind leading the blind. So one should not wonder that the wall they may run into will hurt and couldn't be avoided. Diana of Dewberry Hill <cozad76078 wrote: I'm on my 6th day of raw and have been feeling very " spaced out! " Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 I'm a bit confused. At the grocery store some nuts say raw some say roasted and some don't say anything. Are some assumed to be one way or the other? I assume 'pecans' are typically raw. also, I've read from rawfood.com that you can't trust raw cashews from most places except them It seems like they are just trying to make you buy their's. Is there any truth to this? I mean if I see 'raw cashews' at the regular market should assume they are raw? I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, that heat processing for shell removal will still leave them looking raw but they will be devitalized. Basically, a raw fresh nut should be sproutable. If it is raw and wont sprout it has been heated to the point of devitalizing it and wouldn't give you the benefits of eating raw. Or would it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2004 Report Share Posted December 4, 2004 can you give details (very specific) on this psyllium/clay/apple juice cleanse? i too have had ibs for years and even tho i am better as i went veggie now that i am raw i am still not sure i am getting all cleaned out if ya know what i mean i would like to see about this....at least for this transition phase of raw. thanks, kristi rawfood , Diana of Dewberry Hill <cozad76078> wrote: > Thanks Valerie, > I have not done many clonics lately as I think I have a stricture and they don't work very well with that anyway. But it's the psyllium/clay/ apple juice cleanse that worked so well, but as long as I'm still having movements, I think I'll just keep eating raw and let nature take it's course. I guess the spaced out-ness is just part of the healing/ cleansing process. > > Diana > > > > > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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