green power

[Guest guest]

does anyone here use a green power juicer?

 

I have one and am considering selling it. I believe it makes high

quality juice but it is so hard to use. For carrot juice, you have to

force the carrots into the machine with a lot of force. anyone know

any tricks to make it easier?

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Some friends of mine have one, and bought it when they passed their Champion on

to one of their kids; they are seriously considering going back to a Champion.

The Green Power has been better for wheat grass juicing, but since they don't do

very much of that, it has proven to be not much of a benefit. Since they do a

lot of carrot juicing, the slowness of the process with the Green power has been

more of a problem. I know this is only anecdotal, but I share it for what it is

worth. I've had my Champion for 7 years now, and continue to be very happy with

it. A lot depends on what you need.

 

Peace,

Valerie

 

 

John de la Garza <john wrote:

does anyone here use a green power juicer?

 

I have one and am considering selling it. I believe it makes high

quality juice but it is so hard to use. For carrot juice, you have to

force the carrots into the machine with a lot of force. anyone know

any tricks to make it easier?

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

does the champion do carrots with out a lot of hard pushing?

 

On Dec 14, 2004, at 7:19 PM, Valerie Mills Daly wrote:

 

>

> Some friends of mine have one, and bought it when they passed their

> Champion on to one of their kids; they are seriously considering going

> back to a Champion. The Green Power has been better for wheat grass

> juicing, but since they don't do very much of that, it has proven to

> be not much of a benefit. Since they do a lot of carrot juicing, the

> slowness of the process with the Green power has been more of a

> problem. I know this is only anecdotal, but I share it for what it is

> worth. I've had my Champion for 7 years now, and continue to be very

> happy with it. A lot depends on what you need.

>

> Peace,

> Valerie

>

>

> John de la Garza <john wrote:

> does anyone here use a green power juicer?

>

> I have one and am considering selling it. I believe it makes high

> quality juice but it is so hard to use. For carrot juice, you have to

> force the carrots into the machine with a lot of force. anyone know

> any tricks to make it easier?

[Guest guest]

On Dec 14, 2004, at 8:33 PM, John de la Garza wrote:

 

>

> does the champion do carrots with out a lot of hard pushing?

>

 

anyone heard of the samson juicer?

 

http://wheatgrass.biz/

 

I don't see how it could juice carrots, but they say it does

[Guest guest]

Hi John,

 

No mistake. You asked my question. I have a Champion, but I've had the

Samson recommended as the best all-around juicer for raw foodists. I would

love to hear everyone's input on it. The threads on the screw don't look

like their raised enough to make quick work of much anything, especially

since it's a lower RPM juicer. (The lower RPMs are supposed to be better

because the friction won't heat and cook your juice.) The Samson does look

much easier to clean than either the Green Star or the Champion!

 

_____

 

John de la Garza [john]

Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:48 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] green power

 

 

 

On Dec 14, 2004, at 8:33 PM, John de la Garza wrote:

 

>

> does the champion do carrots with out a lot of hard pushing?

>

 

anyone heard of the samson juicer?

 

http://wheatgrass.biz/

 

I don't see how it could juice carrots, but they say it does

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

There is some pushing, but to give you an idea of how long juicing will take me

in the morning, I juice 5 lbs. carrots, 8 stalks celery, 1 beet, 1 cucumber, 1

granny smith apple in 30 minutes; this includes prepping the veggies, juicing,

straining, bottling and cleaning up. This will make 6-8 cups of juice, depending

on the juiciness of the fruit. With the green power, it takes my friends up to

an hour. Hope this helps.

 

Peace,

Valerie

 

John de la Garza <john wrote:

does the champion do carrots with out a lot of hard pushing?

 

On Dec 14, 2004, at 7:19 PM, Valerie Mills Daly wrote:

 

>

> Some friends of mine have one, and bought it when they passed their

> Champion on to one of their kids; they are seriously considering going

> back to a Champion. The Green Power has been better for wheat grass

> juicing, but since they don't do very much of that, it has proven to

> be not much of a benefit. Since they do a lot of carrot juicing, the

> slowness of the process with the Green power has been more of a

> problem. I know this is only anecdotal, but I share it for what it is

> worth. I've had my Champion for 7 years now, and continue to be very

> happy with it. A lot depends on what you need.

>

> Peace,

> Valerie

>

>

> John de la Garza <john wrote:

> does anyone here use a green power juicer?

>

> I have one and am considering selling it. I believe it makes high

> quality juice but it is so hard to use. For carrot juice, you have to

> force the carrots into the machine with a lot of force. anyone know

> any tricks to make it easier?

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I love my Champion too. I've had it for nearly nine

years and it works just as well as the day I brought

it home. It's got a powerful motor.

 

swing

 

--- Valerie Mills Daly <valdaly wrote:

I've had my Champion

> for 7 years now, and continue to be very happy with

> it. A lot depends on what you need.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> >

> > does the champion do carrots with out a lot of

> hard pushing?

 

The Champion does carrots really well, as well as

leafy greens and fruits. You can also make nut butters

and " ice cream " (frozen bananas and stuff) with it

too. One thing it doesn't do though is wheatgrass.

 

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[Guest guest]

I have the Green Star, and it has the screw on the front -- the screw is the

first item that comes off when taking the juicer apart, or the last thing

that goes on when putting it back together. I turn this screw

counter-clockwise which allows you to use much less pressure. If it is

turned towards the right, or clockwise all the way, it is very difficult to

get a carrot or any hard vegetable through it. Hope that helps. I don't

know if the green power has the same screw though.

 

Sasha

 

 

[Guest guest]

I found a site with video's of all kinds of juicers being used, I'll post

it tongiht when I get home if I can find it.

 

 

On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 09:06:44PM -0800, Giovanni Cavalieri wrote:

>

>

> Hi John,

>

> No mistake. You asked my question. I have a Champion, but I've had the

> Samson recommended as the best all-around juicer for raw foodists. I would

> love to hear everyone's input on it. The threads on the screw don't look

> like their raised enough to make quick work of much anything, especially

> since it's a lower RPM juicer. (The lower RPMs are supposed to be better

> because the friction won't heat and cook your juice.) The Samson does look

> much easier to clean than either the Green Star or the Champion!

>

> _____

>

[Guest guest]

On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 04:48:46AM -0800, Valerie Mills Daly wrote:

>

> There is some pushing, but to give you an idea of how long juicing will take

me in the morning, I juice 5 lbs. carrots, 8 stalks celery, 1 beet, 1 cucumber,

1 granny smith apple in 30 minutes; this includes prepping the veggies, juicing,

straining, bottling and cleaning up. This will make 6-8 cups of juice, depending

on the juiciness of the fruit. With the green power, it takes my friends up to

an hour. Hope this helps.

 

so I guess it is a bit slower than a cyntrifical juicer. Like the juiceman II.

 

With my juiceman or le equip I juice as fast as I can pick them up.

 

I made some orange juice with my green power last night. For soft fruits and

greens it works great. I just am not going to use two juicers one for carrots

and one for greens. It's a delema. I really do believe that the low rpm

twin gear or single auger juicer's make better juice.

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean, John; while the centrifugal juicers can be faster, not as

much juice is forced from the pulp, and apparently more air is introduced to the

juice as opposed to the 'masticating' juicers. For those who are interested,

there is a site, www.healthnutalternatives.com, that currently offer the

Champion for $188.00 including shipping (this is for the household model). I

ordered champions for our three daughters for Christmas this year from this

company, and they all arrived within just a couple days of ordering, in perfect

condition.

 

Peace,

Valerie

 

johnd <john wrote:

With my juiceman or le equip I juice as fast as I can pick them up.

 

I made some orange juice with my green power last night. For soft fruits and

greens it works great. I just am not going to use two juicers one for carrots

and one for greens. It's a delema. I really do believe that the low rpm

twin gear or single auger juicer's make better juice.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I think the only difference is in the motor; it would really be up to you. It's

only about 40 dollars more on that site. I've had mine for 7 years with no

problem, and I know of a couple that's had their's (also a household model) for

16 years with only replacing a dull blade. So I guess you could go either way.

There's a little different warranty for the commercial model, but the warranty

for the household model is something like five to seven years for the motor.

 

johnd <john wrote:On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 07:59:59AM -0800, Valerie

Mills Daly wrote:

>

> I know what you mean, John; while the centrifugal juicers can be faster, not

as much juice is forced from the pulp, and apparently more air is introduced to

the juice as opposed to the 'masticating' juicers. For those who are interested,

there is a site, www.healthnutalternatives.com, that currently offer the

Champion for $188.00 including shipping (this is for the household model). I

ordered champions for our three daughters for Christmas this year from this

company, and they all arrived within just a couple days of ordering, in perfect

condition.

 

do you know the diff bewteen the household model and othermodels?

 

Would I benefit to get an industrial one or would it be totatally overkill?

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 07:59:59AM -0800, Valerie Mills Daly wrote:

>

> I know what you mean, John; while the centrifugal juicers can be faster, not

as much juice is forced from the pulp, and apparently more air is introduced to

the juice as opposed to the 'masticating' juicers. For those who are interested,

there is a site, www.healthnutalternatives.com, that currently offer the

Champion for $188.00 including shipping (this is for the household model). I

ordered champions for our three daughters for Christmas this year from this

company, and they all arrived within just a couple days of ordering, in perfect

condition.

 

do you know the diff bewteen the household model and othermodels?

 

Would I benefit to get an industrial one or would it be totatally overkill?

[Guest guest]

Hi, John!

I recently got the Solostar II from www.rawguru.com. I have tried the Juiceman

(better model) and the Jack Lalanne juicers before. With the Solostar II I do

find that you have to push the carrots a little and everything needs to be cut

up quite small or in long pieces. That definitely takes more time in comparison

to the Jack Lalanne juicer which has a big opening. Also there is one piece that

has three different screen sizes. The screen with the smallest holes needs a

little more care with the brush (included) to get everything out of those micro

holes. Sometimes I just let it sit in some water and go at it later and it

doesn't seem to be a big deal anymore. Now, the juice is just excellent! I find

it tastes much better and you get a whole lot more out of it. I also wanted a

juicer that does parsley and other herbs and doesn't have a problem with kale or

cellery. For all this the Solostar does an incredible job. It is easy to take

apart and put together and clean (besides the little work on the screen). It is

also not noisy at all and runs on low rpm. The noise really bothered me with the

juiceman especially when the cellery got stuck. Anyway, I think it's worth it

looking into the Solostar.

Good luck!

Eva

-

johnd

rawfood

Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:53 AM

Re: [Raw Food] green power

 

 

On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 04:48:46AM -0800, Valerie Mills Daly wrote:

>

> There is some pushing, but to give you an idea of how long juicing will take

me in the morning, I juice 5 lbs. carrots, 8 stalks celery, 1 beet, 1 cucumber,

1 granny smith apple in 30 minutes; this includes prepping the veggies, juicing,

straining, bottling and cleaning up. This will make 6-8 cups of juice, depending

on the juiciness of the fruit. With the green power, it takes my friends up to

an hour. Hope this helps.

 

so I guess it is a bit slower than a cyntrifical juicer. Like the juiceman

II.

 

With my juiceman or le equip I juice as fast as I can pick them up.

 

I made some orange juice with my green power last night. For soft fruits and

greens it works great. I just am not going to use two juicers one for carrots

and one for greens. It's a delema. I really do believe that the low rpm

twin gear or single auger juicer's make better juice.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

rawfood , " Giovanni Cavalieri " <giocav@s...> wrote:

> No mistake. You asked my question. I have a Champion, but I've had the

> Samson recommended as the best all-around juicer for raw foodists. I would

> love to hear everyone's input on it.

 

I own a GreenStar (twin gear), a Samson auger (6-in-1), a BacktoBasics

manual wheatgrass juicer and a Vita-Prep Vita-Mix ) They all have

advantages and disadvantages.

 

The Greenstar is better at leafy greens and carrots, but tends to clog up on

soft fruit even with the special fruit adaptor. The Samson does better with

fruits, but doesn't like leafy greens. The Greenstar puts out a dryer pulp, but

is

a real pain to clean; big, bulky parts with lots of nooks and crannies for food

particles to stick, about 2 or 3 times more work cleaning a Greenstar than a

Samson even with the special brush that comes with the Greenstar. A good

bottle brush is a big help cleaning the screen on a Samson. Both do

wheatgrass, but if all you drink is a couple ounces at a time then a manual

wheatgrass juicer is just fine and less work cleaning. One on sale for $12.99

<http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?st

oreId=6970 & langId=-1 & catalogId=4006970 & PHOTOS=on & productId=

35024>

 

As far as ease of use nothing beats a Vita-Mix blender (which is about 10,000

RPM faster than a smoothie machine which is about 10,000 RPM faster than

an ordinary blender). It's basically a high speed blender. The Vita-Mix can

turn frozen fruit into a milkshake pronto, or make many kinds of V-8 type juice,

very smooth drinks. It wastes nothing! This will save you money on food. Very

fast, real easy to use, just drop the food in; real easy to clean, basically

just

rinse it out.

 

How easy a machine is to use and clean makes a big impact on your health

too, because it determines how often you'll use it.

 

The " Magic Bullet " is a smoothie machine (about $100) that disserves

consideration. I haven't tried one, but it seems to have a lot of advantages; It

blends makes smoothies right in it's own glasses ) which makes it that much

easier to use.

[Guest guest]

I really have to say that I love my Greenstar juicer (Twin Gear). It is a

terrific choice, in terms of quality in juicing which ends in retention of

vitamins and minerals and enzymes. The twin gears make it so due to slow

rpm which doesn't heat the juice, and the process which extracts as much out

of the fruit or vegetable as possible leaving the pulp very dry. This is

one of the major reasons I chose the Greenstar to begin with, retention of

enzymes, quality and taste. When I first started using the juicer, I do

admit, I found that it took a little more practice to use efficiently and

effort to clean. These difficulties were quickly and easily overcome. I

got a plastic dish-tub to fit my sink. Right before I make the juice I fill

the tub (or the sink if you like) with really hot water and a good natural

de-greasing detergent. Then I make my juice, cover it, then take the juicer

apart, quickly rinse the parts and put them in the hot water to soak. After

I am done my juice, I simply rinse the parts off with more hot water and

they are sparkling clean. The strainer is really not that tough to clean if

you use the brush it comes with, get as much of the pulp off, and then end

with the plastic pointy tip to get the rest off. So the longest amount of

time it takes actually, is the amount of time it takes me to gather together

the juice ingredients, and clean them.

 

As far as juicing softer fruits like apples or such, try juicing them slowly

by applying less pressure on your stick and put those in the juicer first,

then use the harder ones next. Also, turn the tension of the screw on the

front down, or counterclockwise. Same thing for harder vegetables like

carrots. This allows them to go through easily and smoothly. Now I can't

wait to use my juicer, and I juice at least once or sometimes twice a day.

Sasha

 

----

 

rawfood

12/15/04 22:52:43

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] green power

 

 

rawfood , " Giovanni Cavalieri " <giocav@s...> wrote:

> No mistake. You asked my question. I have a Champion, but I've had the

> Samson recommended as the best all-around juicer for raw foodists. I would

> love to hear everyone's input on it.

 

I own a GreenStar (twin gear), a Samson auger (6-in-1), a BacktoBasics

manual wheatgrass juicer and a Vita-Prep Vita-Mix ) They all have

advantages and disadvantages.

 

The Greenstar is better at leafy greens and carrots, but tends to clog up on

 

soft fruit even with the special fruit adaptor. The Samson does better with

fruits, but doesn't like leafy greens. The Greenstar puts out a dryer pulp,

but is

a real pain to clean; big, bulky parts with lots of nooks and crannies for

food

particles to stick, about 2 or 3 times more work cleaning a Greenstar than a

 

Samson even with the special brush that comes with the Greenstar. A good

bottle brush is a big help cleaning the screen on a Samson. Both do

wheatgrass, but if all you drink is a couple ounces at a time then a manual

wheatgrass juicer is just fine and less work cleaning. One on sale for $12

99

<http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?st

oreId=6970 & langId=-1 & catalogId=4006970 & PHOTOS=on & productId=

35024>

 

As far as ease of use nothing beats a Vita-Mix blender (which is about 10

000

RPM faster than a smoothie machine which is about 10,000 RPM faster than

an ordinary blender). It's basically a high speed blender. The Vita-Mix can

turn frozen fruit into a milkshake pronto, or make many kinds of V-8 type

juice,

very smooth drinks. It wastes nothing! This will save you money on food.

Very

fast, real easy to use, just drop the food in; real easy to clean, basically

just

rinse it out.

 

How easy a machine is to use and clean makes a big impact on your health

too, because it determines how often you'll use it.

 

The " Magic Bullet " is a smoothie machine (about $100) that disserves

consideration. I haven't tried one, but it seems to have a lot of advantages

It

blends makes smoothies right in it's own glasses ) which makes it that

much

easier to use.