Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 as anyone here ever had a b12 issue? I've read the one symptom is pain in the hands and feet. Once in the past I went vegan, several months later I would get this type of pain. It would last several days. Once I read about b12 I took a b12 pill one morining that I had pain. It went away in 10-12 hours as opposed to 2 days like normal. I thought this may have been b12 realated. Now as a raw foodist (1 month or so) again I am starting to have these pains in my hands and feet. The odd thing is that I got a pain in my hand today, but have taken b12 pills twice in the last week. I'm really confused. Maybe the pills are old or inactive or maybe it is not even realted to b12. I'm thinking of taking a suppliment called superfood that is based on brewers yeast. Is brewers yeast a fore sure source of b12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Sometimes that kind of pain for me has been more related to lack of hydration; I needed to drink more water, and that seemed to take care of the problem. B12 deficiency is a really rare problem, and actually shows up more in the meat-eating population than it does in the vegan. So your pain may actually have another source. My understanding is the only way to know for sure is there is a serious B12 deficiency is to do a blood test. Peace, Vlaerie johnd <john wrote: as anyone here ever had a b12 issue? I've read the one symptom is pain in the hands and feet. Once in the past I went vegan, several months later I would get this type of pain. It would last several days. Once I read about b12 I took a b12 pill one morining that I had pain. It went away in 10-12 hours as opposed to 2 days like normal. I thought this may have been b12 realated. Now as a raw foodist (1 month or so) again I am starting to have these pains in my hands and feet. The odd thing is that I got a pain in my hand today, but have taken b12 pills twice in the last week. I'm really confused. Maybe the pills are old or inactive or maybe it is not even realted to b12. I'm thinking of taking a suppliment called superfood that is based on brewers yeast. Is brewers yeast a fore sure source of b12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 What about Red Star: http://www.lesaffreyeastcorp.com/nutritional/consumer/index.html --- johnd <john wrote: > > > as anyone here ever had a b12 issue? I've read the > one symptom is pain in > the hands and feet. > > Once in the past I went vegan, several months later > I would get this type of > pain. It would last several days. Once I read > about b12 I took a b12 pill > one morining that I had pain. It went away in 10-12 > hours as opposed to 2 > days like normal. I thought this may have been b12 > realated. > > Now as a raw foodist (1 month or so) again I am > starting to have these pains > in my hands and feet. The odd thing is that I got a > pain in my hand today, but > have taken b12 pills twice in the last week. > > I'm really confused. Maybe the pills are old or > inactive or maybe it is not > even realted to b12. > > I'm thinking of taking a suppliment called superfood > that is based on > brewers yeast. > > Is brewers yeast a fore sure source of b12? ===== [...there'll be love and laughter, and peace ever after, just you wait and see... ---Vera Lynn] Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile./maildemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 how do you buy this? The page says: Please check back soon for information on where you buy Lesaffre Nutritional Yeast products. On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 10:17:29AM -0800, tev treowlufu wrote: > > > What about Red Star: > > http://www.lesaffreyeastcorp.com/nutritional/consumer/index.html > > > --- johnd <john wrote: > > > > > > > as anyone here ever had a b12 issue? I've read the > > one symptom is pain in > > the hands and feet. > > > > Once in the past I went vegan, several months later > > I would get this type of > > pain. It would last several days. Once I read > > about b12 I took a b12 pill > > one morining that I had pain. It went away in 10-12 > > hours as opposed to 2 > > days like normal. I thought this may have been b12 > > realated. > > > > Now as a raw foodist (1 month or so) again I am > > starting to have these pains > > in my hands and feet. The odd thing is that I got a > > pain in my hand today, but > > have taken b12 pills twice in the last week. > > > > I'm really confused. Maybe the pills are old or > > inactive or maybe it is not > > even realted to b12. > > > > I'm thinking of taking a suppliment called superfood > > that is based on > > brewers yeast. > > > > Is brewers yeast a fore sure source of b12? > > > ===== > [...there'll be love and laughter, > and peace ever after, > just you wait and see... > ---Vera Lynn] > > > > > > Take Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. > http://mobile./maildemo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Hi John, I'm a pre-med student and the symptom you're referring to is called peripheral neuropathy. It can happen with vitamin B12 deficiency anemia as well as with pernicious anemia. There is an excellent article on it here: http://www.biotechwatch.com/knowledge_base/MayoClinic/PeripheralNeuropathy.h tml As a fifth year vegan, I take a B12 supplement as a preventive measure. If you experience any of these symptoms, I recommend taking a vegan B12 supplement. Better safe than sorry, I think. Especially when it comes to possibly irreversible nerve damage. I've read some research that seems to indicate that if we had been lifelong raw vegans (like many of our primate cousins), our intestinal flora would produce all the B12 we need, but because of eating animal products and/or cooked foods, we kill off some of those friendly bacteria and we can never quite recover them again to the point where they're providing all the B12 we need. I have not yet been able to completely verify what was said about cobalt in the article on living-foods.com that was mentioned. Of course, that doesn't mean it's not true. I think it is really important for us (raw foodists and vegans) to get to the bottom of the B12 issue. There is a lot of misinformation and pseudoscience within our community (as well as in the traditional medical community) and it would be great if we could really discover the truth. _____ johnd [john] Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:01 AM rawfood [Raw Food] b12 issue as anyone here ever had a b12 issue? I've read the one symptom is pain in the hands and feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 I've read some research that seems to indicate that if we had been lifelong raw vegans (like many of our primate cousins), our intestinal flora would produce all the B12 we need, but because of eating animal products and/or cooked foods, we kill off some of those friendly bacteria and we can never quite recover them again to the point where they're providing all the B12 we need. I have not yet been able to completely verify what was said about cobalt in the article on living-foods.com that was mentioned. Of course, This is interesting.I've always wondered why we must be concerned about B12 when some societies have been vegan for generations with no supplements at all-that might explain it. Diane K ~ FL Homeschool mom to 5 homegrown blessings and, with dh Richard, we are all... praying to adopt Anna and Vitaly from Russia 2004 <2HostKids> 2HostKids (international orphan hosting opportunities) _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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