Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I RECEIVED THIS FROM ANOTHER LIST AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING POSITIVE TO SAY TO THIS PERSON. Yes, I know I was shouting. That's because I'm so sick of people questioning the raw way and I'm at a loss for words on subjects such as this. Thanks for any input - Shari Hi, On Friday, my sister mentioned that women on raw food diets were at a higher risk of osteoporosis. Today, via the Glenbrook Farms newsletter, Susun Weed, a well known herbalist, wrote the following: " To extract minerals from fruits and vegetables, I cook them for long periods of time, or until there is color and texture change, evidence that the cell walls have been broken. Kale cooked for an hour delivers far more mineral to your bones than lightly steamed kale. Fresh juices contain virtually no minerals. Cooking maximizes the nutrients available to us, especially the minerals. " I would be interested in hearing from knowledgeable raw foodists if osteoporosis is in fact a problem they need to watch out for and if so, what they do to prevent it. Two such remarks in one week makes me take note! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 I would say to this person: How is it that wild animals have no problem getting minerals and don't have osteoporosis, when they eat an all raw food diet? Granted their digestive systems may be different, but it just doesn't make sense to me that you would have to cook your food to be able to digest the minerals. Ron RawSeattle , " Shari Viger " <shavig@p...> wrote: > Thanks for any input - Shari > > > Hi, > On Friday, my sister mentioned that women on raw food diets were at > a higher risk of osteoporosis. Today, via the Glenbrook Farms > newsletter, Susun Weed, a well known herbalist, wrote the following: > " To extract minerals from fruits and vegetables, I cook them for > long periods of time, or until there is color and texture change, > evidence that the cell walls have been broken. Kale cooked for an > hour delivers far more mineral to your bones than lightly steamed > kale. Fresh juices contain virtually no minerals. Cooking maximizes > the nutrients available to us, especially the minerals. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 People following the www.hacres.com diet program of 85% raw vegan/ 15% cooked vegan, have reported cures from osteoporosis. And also check out the new book by T. Colin Campbell, PhD, " The China Study " . Proof that a plant based diet does not cause osteoporosis. In Health, Lois Shari Viger <shavig wrote: I RECEIVED THIS FROM ANOTHER LIST AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE SOMETHING POSITIVE TO SAY TO THIS PERSON. Yes, I know I was shouting. That's because I'm so sick of people questioning the raw way and I'm at a loss for words on subjects such as this. Thanks for any input - Shari Hi, On Friday, my sister mentioned that women on raw food diets were at a higher risk of osteoporosis. Today, via the Glenbrook Farms newsletter, Susun Weed, a well known herbalist, wrote the following: " To extract minerals from fruits and vegetables, I cook them for long periods of time, or until there is color and texture change, evidence that the cell walls have been broken. Kale cooked for an hour delivers far more mineral to your bones than lightly steamed kale. Fresh juices contain virtually no minerals. Cooking maximizes the nutrients available to us, especially the minerals. " I would be interested in hearing from knowledgeable raw foodists if osteoporosis is in fact a problem they need to watch out for and if so, what they do to prevent it. Two such remarks in one week makes me take note! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Thanks Lois, you'd think I'd remember this seeing as Joe & I are Health Ministers! Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 You guys are hacres health ministers? So, are you also raw fooders? I can't believe my luck at hearing this. I seem to do better following the raw diet than I did following the hacres diet. I was always hungry on the hacres diet. In Health, Lois Shari Viger <shavig wrote: Thanks Lois, you'd think I'd remember seeing this as Joe & I are Health Ministers! Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 email me direct if you ever want to. Lois Shari Viger <shavig wrote:Thanks Lois, you'd think I'd remember this seeing as Joe & I are Health Ministers! Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 >Fresh juices contain virtually no minerals. Cooking maximizes >the nutrients available to us, especially the minerals. " If I was a cat, all my hair would be standing on end and I'd be hissing! Anyway, I hate hearing that kind of exagerated commentary. There are some variations in nutrients between cooked foods and raw foods, but certainly nothing deserving of such comments. I had started collecting data from the National Nutrient Database, but have been too busy to complete it. Needed are listings of whole plant-based foods, for both cooked (some form, but not canned, etc.) and raw. Here are a few I started collecting data on (the data is not ready yet): kale, figs, tomatoes, apricots. Feel free to take a look: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/index.html Here is the only raw juice I noticed earlier this evening (try a search on " juice " : Acerola juice, raw http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/cgi-bin/list_nut_edit.pl Jeff Hsssssssssssss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 " To extract minerals from fruits and vegetables, I cook them for long periods of time, or until there is color and texture change, evidence that the cell walls have been broken. Kale cooked for an hour delivers far more mineral to your bones than lightly steamed kale " . ... " Cooking maximizes the nutrients available to us, especially the minerals. " Color and texture change are actually signs of molecular derangement, decomposition and nutrient loss. I wonder if this person ever notes the color of the water that she boils her food in. Those colors are nutrients that have been leached from the food, and more are lost in the steam. In addition, and most importantly, minerals are perhaps the most vulnerable to damage by cooking because fire returns them to their UN-bioavailable inorganic state. The human body can only make use of minerals that have been synthesized by plants to an organic state. With regard to cooking food to 'break down cells walls', cooking may help break down starch and cellulose but if a food is so dense in these constituents that it is difficult for us to digest in its natural state, it doesn't belong in the human body at all. Cooking will break down certain elements in the food but it renders many others toxic so, in the end, the cost exceeds the benefit. Nora www.RawSchool.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 ....so, this must mean that before we discovered fire, we were all afflicted with Osteoporosis....what a dirty trick God played on us... Ron Koenig <ron.koenig wrote: I would say to this person: How is it that wild animals have no problem getting minerals and don't have osteoporosis, when they eat an all raw food diet? Granted their digestive systems may be different, but it just doesn't make sense to me that you would have to cook your food to be able to digest the minerals. Ron RawSeattle , " Shari Viger " <shavig@p...> wrote: > Thanks for any input - Shari > > > Hi, > On Friday, my sister mentioned that women on raw food diets were at > a higher risk of osteoporosis. Today, via the Glenbrook Farms > newsletter, Susun Weed, a well known herbalist, wrote the following: > " To extract minerals from fruits and vegetables, I cook them for > long periods of time, or until there is color and texture change, > evidence that the cell walls have been broken. Kale cooked for an > hour delivers far more mineral to your bones than lightly steamed > kale. Fresh juices contain virtually no minerals. Cooking maximizes > the nutrients available to us, especially the minerals. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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