Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 My doctor wants me to start taking medication for glaucoma to control pressure in the eye. I have already lost some vision in one eye, and once vision is lost to glaucoma you don't get it back. Does anyone know of an alternative to medication, other than surgery? Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 Smoke pot. It's been proven to remedy glaucoma. Shari - " rawdays " <rawdays <RawSeattle > Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM [RawSeattle] Glaucoma > My doctor wants me to start taking medication for glaucoma to control > pressure in the eye. I have already lost some vision in one eye, and > once vision is lost to glaucoma you don't get it back. Does anyone > know of an alternative to medication, other than surgery? Any > thoughts? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 If you use marijuana for glaucoma, be careful about managing your diet to manage your blood sugar levels. In some types of glaucoma blood sugar issues are a complicating factor. Marijuana itself tends to accentuate blood sugar issues, and if you increase the amount of sweets you eat when using marijuana, this will significantly increase risks of increased blood sugar issues. This in turn could lead to increased complications with the glaucoma. Since whole raw food can help stabilize blood sugar levels more so than the exact same foods after they are processed and cooked, being on this list is a start in the right direction. may your day be filled with clarity, grace, progress, and warm laughter, Roger - " Shari Viger " <shavig <RawSeattle > Friday, June 24, 2005 8:00 PM Re: [RawSeattle] Glaucoma > Smoke pot. It's been proven to remedy glaucoma. > > Shari > - > " rawdays " <rawdays > <RawSeattle > > Friday, June 24, 2005 1:14 PM > [RawSeattle] Glaucoma > > > > My doctor wants me to start taking medication for glaucoma to control > > pressure in the eye. I have already lost some vision in one eye, and > > once vision is lost to glaucoma you don't get it back. Does anyone > > know of an alternative to medication, other than surgery? Any > > thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 So is it the actual marijuana that raises blood sugar or what you eat when you get the munchies? Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 If I were in a position of having glaucoma, I would immediately eat only raw foods, preferably organic, then would do a supervised extended water fast after giving my body some time to recuperate on the raw foods. Loren Lockman, from Tanglewood Wellness Center, has talked about fasting improving glaucoma. That doesn't surprise me, as fasting gives the body a chance to " clean house " . He spoke of one man who wasn't even able to read a newspaper. At the end of the first day of fasting, he was reading the paper. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 > My doctor wants me to start taking medication for > glaucoma to control > pressure in the eye. I have already lost some > vision in one eye, and > once vision is lost to glaucoma you don't get it > back. Does anyone > know of an alternative to medication, other than > surgery? Any > thoughts? > > i have been a glaucoma-suspect all my life, with unusual high pressure in my eyes, as " they " tell you ... so i needed to go back for a check-up every six-month , because there was a chance that the " unusual " above average pressure in MY eyes could have been normal to ME ... blah-blah... until i changed my diet to raw, fasted three weeks, etc ... and voila, at the next check-up the pressure in my eyes became unusually low ... this was many years ago ... never been back to any doctor since ... no check-ups ... no suspicions ... even my vision improved a lot... from - 4.5 it is - 3.0 ... and i am sure, if i was a good boy, and i used the bates method, i could take off my glasses, too- but, well, why would i want that ? i am so used to it, i even like it vanitatum vanitas ... adios attila > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 And here are some comments from Bob Wynman, an ex-dentist who now makes a living selling Nikken multilevel products. Whether they work for this problem I have no personal knowledge, but from the testimonials below apparently some people think they do. Mark _____ MARK-- Without consulting with this person, which I'd be glad to do if you think it appropriate or helpful, I'd not make any recommendations. However, if it were MY body suffering from glaucoma, I'd certainly never opt for drugs nor surgery. My current BS (Belief System ... based only on 30 years of study & practice) is that the body will do what's necessary to create and maintain Optimal Health & we can help it do that by avoiding as many of the poisons in our environment as possible & providing as many of the requisites of health as possible. If it were MY body suffering from glaucoma, I'd first drink nothing but Optimized PiMag Living Water 'til the symptoms resolved .... & continue to do that for the rest of my life. Our cells function optimally only if they're fully hydrated and this is the most effective way I know to ensure their full hydration. Complete hydration is a great first step to allow the body to correct the ocular fluid pressure balance involved with glaucoma. (I'd also not eat any food & I'd remain horizontal in our Sleep System 'til the healing was well under way, but that doesn't often fit into an American's life-style or BS). Second, I'd wear MagSteps full time (including in my far-infrared golf sox at nite) -- there's something magic about those magnetic insoles; the body seems able to use the energy of the rest of the technologies 2-3 times better when they're worn! Third, I'd sleep beneath a Dream Comforter & FIR/magnetic sleep mask atop an Ultra Kenko Deluxe Mattress & Pillow. Fourth, I'd live in a Wellness Home, complete with Air Wellness Power5, CardioStrides & all the rest. My body deserves it, especially if suffering from that condition. Sixth, I'd wear a QLink Pendant & put Harmonizing Chips on our cell phones, cordless phones, computers, vehicles, etc. 'cause it's possible that they really do as claimed, protecting us from harmful electro-magnetic pollution and helping the body maintain it's energy field in a healthy state (this one remains quite a stretch for my still-expanding mind!). & I never recommend that anyone else do any of those things, I just share that those things are what I do. For info on all the Energy Technology mentioned above, visit www.Wellness-Forever.com, for the Coral Calcium, www.htn.com? & for the QLink pendants & Harmonizing Chips, www.Energy4Health.com. Mark, we could probably arrange for your friend to purchase any of the energy technologies at our wholesale cost if you think the person is worthy of such generosity. If Lou & I ever need further help with some medical concern, we contact Dr. Alan Goldhamer and his associates at http://www.healthpromoting.com. That happens about once every 6-8 years. There are few doctors who understand Natural Hygiene (the weird concept that the body is self-healing, self-regenerating and self-repairing and that drugs and therapies interfere with the healing process) so those at TrueNorth Health Education Center are usually very busy. It may be helpful to use our names as a referral source if you or your people contact Alan's Center. The whole concept of " therapies " and " treating diseases " (as I was taught, and practiced, for many years) rather than supporting the body & providing the requisites of health (as Nikken teaches & as their products do) is flawed. Let us know, Mark, if we can be of any help to your friend. " Those are my principals, if you don't like them...... I have others. " -- Groucho Marx Since the energy techology is generaly unfamiliar to most people, here are a few notes from friends regarding the energy technologies: FROM: drmoffat I had borderline glaucoma. Bought the sleep system and the mask. Six months later I went back for a checkup and the doctor said the last one had made a mistake, that there could not possibly been that diagnosis! My blood father is now blind from glaucoma so I hear. Dr. Moffat -------------------------------- Glaucoma beverlym66 My mother, now 91, has glaucoma. When I started with Nikken in around 1998, (I guess) she was using 3 different drops, 3 times a day in her eye. She is sleeping on a mattress pad, and the pillow and also wears the necklace. She is now only using one medication and just one drop a day. We believe that the magnetics have helped. - SUBJECT: Glaucoma FROM: duanewm At a Wellness Preview, I met a man who had been able to quit using his glaucoma medication with the permission of his eye doctor after using the sleep mask and pillow. I'm not sure how long he'd been using the products before he was completely off the medications. Pat -------- FROM: gahbah My husband has had glaucoma (also diabetes) and before Nikken he had surgery to relieve the pressure in one eye. For years he has been wearing two minis in an eye mask for about a half hour a day and although he still has the disease he no longer has to take drops that used to constrict his pupils so that things always looked dark to him. He does use another medication in one eye but his eye sight is pretty good for an 80 year old and he reads a lot. If it were I, I would wear the magnetic eye mask at night but he feels he can't sleep with anything on his face. But undoubtedly the minis have helped his eyes. Carol SUBJECT: Graves disease w/ mask + Immunity FROM: greendolphin I developed Graves disease in 2000. I had 7 major life changing stresses that hit my immune system within a 3 month period. Within 6 weeks of being diagnosed I also developed thyroid eye disease (the big bulging eyes with internal globe pressures on the way to glaucoma). My vision was so poor I didn't know how much longer I could safely work. I spent $300 a month on over the counter eye drops to lubricate my eyes. In exasperation I ordered a sleep mask. It was HEAVEN!. The swelling was reduced. The redness went away, and gradually over the past 9 months my eyes have receded back into the sockets. My vision is improved 20/100 to 20/25 on the left and 20/70 to 20/20 on the right. The internal globe pressure is down out of glaucoma range, and I rarely use the lubricating drops. I did a quasi-scientific experiment on myself, anything to avoid spending the $110/month for anti-thyroid drug. I used the Immunity daily. At the end of the month, I had my blood levels drawn and they were PERFECT. I did not get another bottle of Immunity and the next month my levels were back to bizarre. I purchased the Immunity very late (18 months) into the whole medical treatment plan, and subsequently had surgery to have the thyroid removed. I really wish I had pursued the Immunity formula. I did feel better on it. Some physicians do not care to retain you as a patient if you go off on your own plans. Bottom line - USE IMMUNITY! Dianne ---- SUBJECT: Glaucoma FROM: gahbah My husband has had that condition for about 20 years, and was using prescription eye drops which constricted his pupils so that things always looked dark to him. About 6 years ago he started using two minis in a cotton eyemask from Magbags. He would only use them for about a half hour each afternoon because he doesn't think he can sleep with them. Then when his doctor had him discontinue the drops for some reason (I don't remember why) he discovered that the pressure stayed down even without the drops. So my husband's world became much brighter. He still has the condition and has since been given other drops for one eye only, but the eye pressure is much better and he reads, drives the car etc. at age 80. Carol -------- FROM: barnwellhealth My husband has glaucoma and has been wearing a mini at both temples (uses double sided tape to hold in place) and his eye pressure has been in the low normal range for the past two years. The minis have done much more for him than the medications which the ophthalmologist had him on. Susan -------- SUBJECT: Glaucoma FROM: Bevcmagnetlady My husband sleeps on the mattress and the pillow and wears the magsteps. When he added the sleep mask his eye pressure went down 3 points between his last two eye doctor visits. Beverly ------ FROM: cgrandt My mother has glaucoma and has used the drops for several years without good results. Her pressure has gotten quite high to the point of them suggesting surgery. She has had good results bringing the pressure down by using the sleep system, but we've also had feedback that the eye mask is great for this. The only other thing her doctor told her to do was to increase her walking program. This always puzzled me, but at the convention I was speaking to an MD and he said that it's the increased oxygenation that walking provides which is so good for her vision. Needless to say, she's buying an Optimizer! Cherie ------------------------------ SUBJECT: Glaucoma FROM: duanewm I haven't had experience with glaucoma personally, but I have visited with 2 different people with the problems who are now distributors. Both of them had results from using the sleep mask. Both of them checked with their optometrist before discontinuing the glaucoma meds. Pat Morrison ------- FROM: NIKKENKJ1 I have glacoma and went off of my drops 2 years ago. My eye doctor is amazed that my pressure stays so low and my optic nerve looks so good. I have heard similar stories from at least 6 others. I believe the sleep system is the basis, and keeping your body in a magnetic field in the day time too. I rarely wear the mask, but I'm sure it would get better quicker. Kathie Jackson-Zier -. FROM: judy.sterling For Macular Degeneration in a woman, its important to be on the Women's nutritional for the Lutein in it. Lutein comes from the Marigold plant and is known to help macular degeneration. I would also try the sleep mask, it has been used for cataract's, poor eyesight and Glaucoma with great results. Judy Sterling ------------------------------- FROM: cgrandt My mother's been taking meds for glaucoma for about four years, but the pressure reading continued to climb upward. In her last checkup in spring, her reading was 34 and her doctor discussed surgery with her. Wanting to pursue natural measures, the only thing she could find offered in readings was to walk every day. She was already walking every other day, so she increased it to every day. The only other thing she did differently was to start sleeping on the sleep system (pillow, pad and comforter). Within a month of introducing the Nikken products, she had another appointment and her glaucoma reading decreased from 34 to 17! She is delighted!! ----------------------- FROM: beverlym66 My mother (89) has glaucoma in one eye. Her eye pressure kept getting worse, and she was using 3 different eye drops, some of them two to three times a day. About 2 1/2 years ago I became a Nikken Wellness Consultant. I put mom on the sleep system (even though she thinks the summer comforter is too hot and too heavy, and on top of a water bed), and she uses the intelli-rest pillow and always wears the necklace. Her eye pressure (after time) started getting better. She went down to two different eye drops, still three times a day. From there she went to one drop three times a day and about six months ago she went down to one medication, one drop a day. So far so good. We are positive it is the magnets. COULDN'T BE ANYTHING ELSE. ----------------------------- " It is our duty to proceed as though the limits of our abilities do not exist. " - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, Priest and Scientist lou & dr. bob wynman, lake tahoe Why did we graduate beyond dentistry to our even more rewarding additional profession, Wellness Consultant? Why might YOU want a " Plan B " too? In one word, " freedom " . Info at http://www.wellness-forever.com. For details about Lou & Dr. Bob & ideas about dental health, total wellness, politically incorrect philosophy, etc, visit http://www.wynman.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Here is what my buddy Bob Avery says about glaucoma. I think you know the answer to that as well as I do -- raw foods and fasting. After my 21-day fast, my glaucoma pressure was measured at 10 in one eye and 11 in the other. I don't know what it was immediately before, unfortunately, but it's usually a few points higher, I think. What s/he needs to do is stop eating foods that clog up blood vessels and raise blood pressure. Maybe some eye exercises and sungazing would help too. Then there are foods that have a reputation for feeding the eyes -- carrots, blueberries, bilberries, flaxseeds. Or he could spend lots of money and buy the supplement Paul Harvey touts -- Ocular Nutrition by Hi-Health. Whether it works or not, I don't know, but it's an extract of herbs with vitamins. Is this person diabetic? He needs to get that under control. Losing umpty-zillion pounds is usually a good idea. Psyllium husk seeds can help if the person doesn't have control over cooked food cravings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Sheesh! Do you know how many thousands of $$$$$ it would take to do what this man suggests? No wonder he can make a living selling this stuff. You health shouldn't be that expensive, especially if you choose the raw way. Shari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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