Guest guest Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 >WTM:> and no soy (have read some less then > > wonderful things about soy so I don't go near it) > >Anthony:I've read conflicting reports on that. My current understanding is >that the phytoestrogen thing et al are likely only issues with really >heavy consumption. One of the things I've done since since >investigating the raw food concept has been to markedly decrease my >intake of faux meats (some of which though aren't soy-heavy). WTM: I'm getting rather more confused about the soy issue. First I heard that it was used in Japan as a condiment not a staple (no faux meat stuff). Then from a xeroxed report at http://www.all-organic-food.com/soya.htm (which I can't seem to bring up on my puter) that the Swedes imported the bean (glycine ussuriensis) and selectively bred (not GM) it to increase output for industrial chemicals and oils morphing it into the unique Swedish glycine max which is the soy that is being grown in the states. And, like you say, this report goes on to say all manner of nasties about the phytoestrogens. Totally different source, Joel Furhman, Eat to Live diet guru who leans (falls?) decidedly on a vegan diet for us..uh....those with weight issues :-) reports on a Hawaiian study of older men eating a lot of tofu. Seems their cognitive functioning is declining aka alzheimers at a significant number. While similar studies in Japan show no such cognitive decline. Further study indicates that the level of aluminum found in the tofu eaten in Hawaii was rather high (aluminum?????? Doesn't sound very tasty but then I just learned that Cheerios has wallpaper stripper in it - so what do I know) Could it be the bean tinkering of the " moral nation to the north " , the Swedes, has created this difference which has created the current study conflict???? Of course there's no in depth reporting on how the study was conducted so the findings aren't, to my mind, definitive of anything. Anyway, I think I'll restrict my soy interaction to the odd spritz of Braggs :-) Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Aluminum taken into the body has been implicated as a cause of Alzheimer's disease. So it is the aluminum in the soybean that caused the problem (eaten in Hawaii), not the soybean itself (eaten in Japan). That's why it's so important not to prepare food in any appliance which comes in contact with aluminum. Ron RawSeattle , welltrainedmonkey wrote: > > Totally different source, Joel Furhman, Eat to Live diet guru who > leans (falls?) decidedly on a vegan diet for us..uh....those with > weight issues :-) reports on a Hawaiian study of older men eating a > lot of tofu. Seems their cognitive functioning is declining aka > alzheimers at a significant number. While similar studies in Japan > show no such cognitive decline. Further study indicates that the > level of aluminum found in the tofu eaten in Hawaii was rather high > (aluminum?????? Doesn't sound very tasty but then I just learned > that Cheerios has wallpaper stripper in it - so what do I know)? > > Lynn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Re: the study - Alzheimer's, tofu, and aluminum William Harris, MD, a retired physician from Hawaii (Oahu) wrote about it and did his own investigation on the aluminum content of soy. He also has links of interest. BTW, Harris, a vegan, is now a raw foodist. He even stopped in to one of our potlucks (at Eric's place) when he was in town (a year ago?). http://vegsource.com/harris/brain_aging.htm Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 >Hi Jeff, Thanks for the link ;-) I'm very curious about soy as soy products abound all over health food shelves.~lynn >Re: the study - Alzheimer's, tofu, and aluminum > >William Harris, MD, a retired physician from Hawaii (Oahu) wrote about >it and did his own investigation on the aluminum content of soy. He >also has links of interest. BTW, Harris, a vegan, is now a raw foodist. >He even stopped in to one of our potlucks (at Eric's place) when he was >in town (a year ago?). > ><http://vegsource.com/harris/brain_aging.htm>http://vegsource.com/harris/brain_\ aging.htm > >Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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