Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Good morning, I have a rather unusual request. My daughter is playing a lead role in an all-city production of " Pirates of Penzance " (Mabel) this weekend, and has just started to develop a sore throat. There is a lot of singing and many very high notes in the performance, so she needs to be at full strength. She is not raw or vegetarian, but if I can find a way to help her voice I could be a hero. Does anyone have food-medicine ideas that might prevent the sore throat from getting worse, or eliminate it? Thanks. Nick Hein Morgantown, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Hi Nick: If I had to sing, I would gargle with warm salt water first and drink lots of honey and lemon beverage. It goes like this: get a scoop of honey and melt in hot water (amount varies by taste), after the honey is completely diluted in the hot water, add fresh-squeezed lemon juice (again amount varies, trial and error) into the solution. cool to drink or cool down in refrigerator to pop it in a vitamix or blender with crush ice for a slurpie texture. Break a leg as they say in show business, Siri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Hi, Nick - My husband's grandmother always swore by gargling with warm salt water (quite heavy on the salt) frequently, and my husband still does this when he has a sore throat. Also, the natural markets have a zinc-based throat spray that you can use. Since a sore throat is often the first symptom of a cold, something like Zicam with zinc in it would be good. A pocket of Ricola throat lozenges might help if she has a bit of a rest between numbers. That role sounds exciting - tell her to " break a leg " on my behalf! :=) Blessings - Sue Nick Hein wrote: > > Good morning, > I have a rather unusual request. My daughter is playing a lead role in > an all-city production of " Pirates of Penzance " (Mabel) this weekend, > and has just started to develop a sore throat. There is a lot of > singing and many very high notes in the performance, so she needs to > be at full strength. She is not raw or vegetarian, but if I can find a > way to help her voice I could be a hero. > > Does anyone have food-medicine ideas that might prevent the sore > throat from getting worse, or eliminate it? > Thanks. > Nick Hein > Morgantown, WV > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Try Opera lozenges. They are a natural throat drop that Opera singers use. They sell them at PCC in a little red box. I am a singer, so I use them before singing all the time. Throat coat tea would also work. And also Ecanacia. Andrea Nick Hein <nick.hein wrote: Good morning, I have a rather unusual request. My daughter is playing a lead role in an all-city production of " Pirates of Penzance " (Mabel) this weekend, and has just started to develop a sore throat. There is a lot of singing and many very high notes in the performance, so she needs to be at full strength. She is not raw or vegetarian, but if I can find a way to help her voice I could be a hero. Does anyone have food-medicine ideas that might prevent the sore throat from getting worse, or eliminate it? Thanks. Nick Hein Morgantown, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Watch out for the Ricola lozenges. I don’t use them, but I was going to buy them the other day at the request of a family member and I noticed that MSG is among the ingredients. Mark _____ RawSeattle [RawSeattle ] On Behalf Of Sue Aberle Monday, February 05, 2007 9:27 AM RawSeattle Re: [RawSeattle] Got voice? Hi, Nick - My husband's grandmother always swore by gargling with warm salt water (quite heavy on the salt) frequently, and my husband still does this when he has a sore throat. Also, the natural markets have a zinc-based throat spray that you can use. Since a sore throat is often the first symptom of a cold, something like Zicam with zinc in it would be good. A pocket of Ricola throat lozenges might help if she has a bit of a rest between numbers. That role sounds exciting - tell her to " break a leg " on my behalf! :=) Blessings - Sue Nick Hein wrote: > > Good morning, > I have a rather unusual request. My daughter is playing a lead role in > an all-city production of " Pirates of Penzance " (Mabel) this weekend, > and has just started to develop a sore throat. There is a lot of > singing and many very high notes in the performance, so she needs to > be at full strength. She is not raw or vegetarian, but if I can find a > way to help her voice I could be a hero. > > Does anyone have food-medicine ideas that might prevent the sore > throat from getting worse, or eliminate it? > Thanks. > Nick Hein > Morgantown, WV > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Which ones did you look at? I don't see that on the labels of the ones that I have - the Natural Honey Lemon with Echinacea. I just went onto the Ricola website and looked at the ingredient lists of various products, and the only real " red flag " is aspartame in the sugar-free varieties, I saw no msg at all on the ingredient lists. (BTW, I'm an avid label-reader when I buy something new for the first time, I would not buy something with anything suspect in it. Yes, the throat lozenges are a cooked product, but when you need a lozenge, you use what's available.) Sue > Watch out for the Ricola lozenges. I don’t use them, but I was going to buy > them the other day at the request of a family member and I noticed that MSG > is among the ingredients. > _____ > > RawSeattle [RawSeattle ] On > Behalf Of Sue Aberle > Monday, February 05, 2007 9:27 AM > RawSeattle > Re: [RawSeattle] Got voice? > > > > Hi, Nick - > > My husband's grandmother always swore by gargling with warm salt water > (quite heavy on the salt) frequently, and my husband still does this > when he has a sore throat. Also, the natural markets have a zinc-based > throat spray that you can use. Since a sore throat is often the first > symptom of a cold, something like Zicam with zinc in it would be good. > A pocket of Ricola throat lozenges might help if she has a bit of a rest > between numbers. > > That role sounds exciting - tell her to " break a leg " on my behalf! :=) > > Blessings - > > Sue > > Nick Hein wrote: > >> Good morning, >> I have a rather unusual request. My daughter is playing a lead role in >> an all-city production of " Pirates of Penzance " (Mabel) this weekend, >> and has just started to develop a sore throat. There is a lot of >> singing and many very high notes in the performance, so she needs to >> be at full strength. She is not raw or vegetarian, but if I can find a >> way to help her voice I could be a hero. >> >> Does anyone have food-medicine ideas that might prevent the sore >> throat from getting worse, or eliminate it? >> Thanks. >> Nick Hein >> Morgantown, WV >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 The Opera Lozenges are what voice teachers and voice professionals use, and they are 100percent natural. mkh <hovila wrote: Watch out for the Ricola lozenges. I don’t use them, but I was going to buy them the other day at the request of a family member and I noticed that MSG is among the ingredients. Mark _____ RawSeattle [RawSeattle ] On Behalf Of Sue Aberle Monday, February 05, 2007 9:27 AM RawSeattle Re: [RawSeattle] Got voice? Hi, Nick - My husband's grandmother always swore by gargling with warm salt water (quite heavy on the salt) frequently, and my husband still does this when he has a sore throat. Also, the natural markets have a zinc-based throat spray that you can use. Since a sore throat is often the first symptom of a cold, something like Zicam with zinc in it would be good. A pocket of Ricola throat lozenges might help if she has a bit of a rest between numbers. That role sounds exciting - tell her to " break a leg " on my behalf! :=) Blessings - Sue Nick Hein wrote: > > Good morning, > I have a rather unusual request. My daughter is playing a lead role in > an all-city production of " Pirates of Penzance " (Mabel) this weekend, > and has just started to develop a sore throat. There is a lot of > singing and many very high notes in the performance, so she needs to > be at full strength. She is not raw or vegetarian, but if I can find a > way to help her voice I could be a hero. > > Does anyone have food-medicine ideas that might prevent the sore > throat from getting worse, or eliminate it? > Thanks. > Nick Hein > Morgantown, WV > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 If the throat feels like it is on fire, putting a drop of peppermint oil on the tongue and inhaling through the mouth cools down the throat. If there is a need to heal the throat, cayenne pepper (the hotter the better, African is the hottest) with lemon juice in water or other liquid can help. Ron RawSeattle , " Nick Hein " <nick.hein wrote: > > Good morning, > I have a rather unusual request. My daughter is playing a lead role in an all-city production of " Pirates of Penzance " (Mabel) this weekend, and has just started to develop a sore throat. There is a lot of singing and many very high notes in the performance, so she needs to be at full strength. She is not raw or vegetarian, but if I can find a way to help her voice I could be a hero. > > Does anyone have food-medicine ideas that might prevent the sore throat from getting worse, or eliminate it? > Thanks. > Nick Hein > Morgantown, WV > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Oops, that's what I meant, aspartame. Hard to keep all these poisons straight. M RawSeattle [RawSeattle ] On Behalf Of Sue Aberle Monday, February 05, 2007 6:38 PM RawSeattle Re: [RawSeattle] Got voice? Which ones did you look at? I don't see that on the labels of the ones that I have - the Natural Honey Lemon with Echinacea. I just went onto the Ricola website and looked at the ingredient lists of various products, and the only real " red flag " is aspartame in the sugar-free varieties, I saw no msg at all on the ingredient lists. (BTW, I'm an avid label-reader when I buy something new for the first time, I would not buy something with anything suspect in it. Yes, the throat lozenges are a cooked product, but when you need a lozenge, you use what's available.) Sue > Watch out for the Ricola lozenges. I don’t use them, but I was going to buy > them the other day at the request of a family member and I noticed that MSG > is among the ingredients. > -- Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.27/671 - Release 2/5/2007 4:48 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I'm glad we got that clarified. I have yet to see an artificial sweetener in our food supply that didn't become an " oops " somewhere down the road - " oops - we should have tested it further " , " oops - we shouldn't have used it in that product " , " oops - we should have put a warning label on it " , " oops - maybe it shouldn't be on the market at all " . I'd rather not be a consumer of an " oops " product!! Sue mkh wrote: > Oops, that's what I meant, aspartame. Hard to keep all these poisons > straight. M > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Sue, You said (below): " I saw no msg at all on the ingredient lists. (BTW, I'm an avid label-reader when I buy something new for the first time, I would not buy something with anything suspect in it. " If you are not already aware, MSG has many other names..... " spices " " natural flavor " are among them. If you do a google search like " hidden label names list MSG " or something of that sort you should find a site with a list. I think I saw a site with 5-8 different things that they get away naming it. I have had the Zand losenges sweetened with rice syrup when in need. CAtherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Hi, Catherine - I'm very much aware of that. On Ricola's labels and ingredient lists, where it says " natural flavors " , they actually elaborate as to just which they are, in the case of the label that I'm looking at in front of me, they specifically state " honey, lemon, peppermint " in parentheses after " natural flavors " . Remember that Mark later stated that he had erred in his post, that he had intended to write " aspartame " rather than " msg " . We would not want an erroneous post on this discussion board to become one of those urban legends that have no basis in fact. Serious financial damage can be done to decent, responsible companies if incorrect information is posted and is not corrected, and people stop buying the product because they read " somewhere " that it contains some nasty thing. To support the companies that we come to know and trust, we need to stop these rumors in their tracks. The smaller the company, the more vulnerable they are financially. Each company that we lose, each company that sells out to a major food conglomerate, compromises the availability and reliability of those very products that we rely on for a healthy and compassionate lifestyle. I would far more expect hidden surprises in the stuff found in the mainstream markets than in the products that I find in my co-op or natural foods markets, although those products are not immune to questionable ingredients. (Have you read the labels on guacamole in Freddies lately?? Interesting exercise.) My philosophy is that at some point we have to trust certain products and companies with our food/medicine production, and I have learned over my 10 years of vegetarianism and nearly 6 years of rawdom (has it been that long??) which products and companies I can trust and which ones I cannot trust. One can spend a lot of time picking labels apart, or one can spend their time and energy more productively on reaching out to those who are still eating the overly processed junk from the mainstream stores. As a nutrition professional, I choose to do the latter. I personally use Ricola when I have a cold (which is rare) or throat irritation (also rare) and I need to talk/sing for an extended period of time, a bag of lozenges lasts me a long time. If I ingest a little starch syrup, sugar, lemon concentrate, citric acid, and extract of Ricola's herb mixture which likely has been boiled down, in a lozenge that was likely heated to a very high temperature to make it into a hard candy, I'm not going to fret about it. If somebody has diabetes and requires the artificial sweetener, they have to make that choice, and I'm not going to discourage it, although I would not select it for myself nor advise it for someone without diabetes. I have spent many years closely evaluating what I use, and I would not be using this product if I thought for a second that there was a problem with it. Blessings and good night - Sue Catherine wrote: > If you are not already aware, MSG has many other names..... " spices " " natural > flavor " are among them. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Hi Nick, Just saw this, and I hope I'm not responding too late. All symptoms are messages from our subconscious to our conscious awareness. Soreness in the throat is a request for rest and hydration. The very best thing to do is fast over night, drink lots of water, and get plenty of rest. No one can promise how quickly her body will deal with whatever irritation is causing the current pain, but this is the biggest " hammer " you have. Putting ANYTHING in there only adds more work for her already overloaded body to handle. Hope the performance is a smashing success! Elchanan RawSeattle [RawSeattle ] On Behalf Of Nick Hein Monday, February 05, 2007 8:27 AM RawSeattle [RawSeattle] Got voice? Good morning, I have a rather unusual request. My daughter is playing a lead role in an all-city production of " Pirates of Penzance " (Mabel) this weekend, and has just started to develop a sore throat. There is a lot of singing and many very high notes in the performance, so she needs to be at full strength. She is not raw or vegetarian, but if I can find a way to help her voice I could be a hero. Does anyone have food-medicine ideas that might prevent the sore throat from getting worse, or eliminate it? Thanks. Nick Hein Morgantown, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Elchanan, Thanks for the tips. I'll let you know how it goes. Nick - Elchanan RawSeattle Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:04 PM PS: [RawSeattle] Got voice? PS Nick, one more thing ... if you have time, do tune in to our free teleconference tomorrow evening, entitled, " Messages From Within: Exploring Symptoms and Senses " . 8:30 PM EST. For more information, just send email to RSVP. Best, Elchanan RawSeattle [RawSeattle ] On Behalf Of Nick Hein Monday, February 05, 2007 8:27 AM RawSeattle [RawSeattle] Got voice? Good morning, I have a rather unusual request. My daughter is playing a lead role in an all-city production of " Pirates of Penzance " (Mabel) this weekend, and has just started to develop a sore throat. There is a lot of singing and many very high notes in the performance, so she needs to be at full strength. She is not raw or vegetarian, but if I can find a way to help her voice I could be a hero. Does anyone have food-medicine ideas that might prevent the sore throat from getting worse, or eliminate it? Thanks. Nick Hein Morgantown, WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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