Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Note: forwarded message attached.Ronald A. Fells N3VPU Amateur Radio Operator Sick sense of humor? Visit TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. Pasteurized almond rule has some going nuts http://cnn.site.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt & title=Pasteurized+almond+rule+has+some+going+nuts+-+CNN.com & expire=07%2F29%2F2007 & urlID=23085645 & fb=Y & url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2007%2FLIVING%2F06%2F29%2Falmonds.ap%2Findex.html%23cnnSTCText%3Firef%3Dwerecommend & partnerID=211911 http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/06/29/almonds.ap/index.html#cnnSTCText?iref=werecommend [Contact information/Feedback: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/ ] * Story Highlights * On September 1, almost all almonds must be pasteurized * Organic farmers, vegans, raw foodists not happy with rule * Salmonella outbreaks in 2001 and 2004 were traced to raw almonds * Raw nuts would be steamed or sprayed with propylene oxide gas MADERA, California (AP) -- Raw, organic almonds form the basis of Karyn Calabrese's garlicky nut pate, her vegan pie crusts and vanilla ice cream custards. But under a new federal rule requiring that virtually all almonds be pasteurized to prevent foodborne illness, the Chicago restaurateur will have to substitute a new nut, or go to vast lengths to import her raw almonds from across the globe. Industry representatives say tightening food safety rules to subject almonds to heat treatment will help expand the market for California farmers, who grow about 80 percent of the world's almonds in a flat strip of land sandwiched between the Pacific coast and the Sierra Nevada mountains. But the regulation, set to take effect September 1, has also angered everyone from organic farmers to followers of the restrictive raw foods diet. " The almond is the king of the nut world and a main staple for raw foodists, " said Calabrese, whose elegant restaurants feature small plates of raw, vegan food, none of which has been heated above 110 degrees. " I haven't even thought out what I'll do because it's just such a mind-blowing situation. " Almonds have become increasingly lucrative as they've gained popularity with health-conscious consumers. California farmers expect to harvest 1.3 billion pounds of almonds this year, a bumper crop worth more than $1.4 billion. Following Salmonella outbreaks in 2001 and 2004 that were traced to raw almonds, the Almond Board of California rallied for a federal rule requiring all almonds in the state to be pasteurized to keep bacteria from infecting the nuts while they dry in the orchard or while they're processed. " We consider it unacceptable to continue shipping a product that could contain a microorganism that could make somebody sick, " said Richard Waycott, president and CEO of the board, a marketing arm of the U.S. Department of Agriculture. " We're really confident that this program is a win-win for everybody because it does not alter the product. " In pasteurization -- a process also used for milk, juice and eggs -- the shelled and hulled nuts typically are laid out on a conveyor belt that passes them through a moist burst of steam to heat the kernels' surface to about 200 degrees, killing any pathogens present. An alternative process sends the nuts into a chamber where they're sprayed with propylene oxide gas. Major almond buyers such as Mars Inc., Kraft Foods Inc. and The Hershey Co. reviewed a study by the board to determine if the process impacted the nut's quality, taste, texture and appearance, and found it had no effect, Waycott said. Once treated, the pasteurized almonds are ready for sale and can be legally shipped throughout the U.S., Canada and Mexico, said Michael Durando, chief for the marketing order administration branch at USDA. Growers can apply for exemptions if they can prove that their manufacturing process -- be it dry roasting, blanching or any other traditional treatments -- achieves pasteurization. They also can sell small quantities of raw, unpasteurized almonds direct to customers at farm stands or at certified California farmers markets, but can face penalties if they're caught selling more than 100 pounds a day to any one person. That's not enough volume for Berkeley-based Living Tree Community Foods, which soon will start importing its raw almonds from Spain to make its " living " nut butter. Company officials said its customers are concerned about the health effects of propylene oxide, a gas listed as a possible carcinogen by the International Agency on Cancer Research. Federal guidelines found that extremely low residue levels of the gas had no harmful effects, Waycott said. But the Cornucopia Institute, a Wisconsin-based farm policy research group, asked the USDA to hold off on implementing the rule to solicit an independent study on the chemical. The rule was developed over three years of careful discussions between industry representatives and agriculture officials, and won't be reconsidered, Durando said. Madera-based farmer Mike Braga, whose organic nuts are favored by live food fans and grocery chains such as Trader Joe's, said he won't break the law by continuing to sell raw almonds. But if customers aren't demanding it, he said he doesn't see why he shouldn't be able to freeze his almonds instead of pasteurizing them. " We're going to lose our entire raw market, " Braga said. " If such good almonds are available here, why should our customers have to import them from Europe? " Live Simply So That Others May Simply Live Yoga-With-Nancy/ SignSoFla/ SoFlaVegans/ SoFlaSchools/ ________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. http://farechase./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 I don't see why they think they have the right to do this. That sucks. Now I have to find a replacement, or start importing. Does anyone know of any petition's for this? If not we should start our own. > > http://cnn.site.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt & title=Pasteurized+a\ lmond+rule+has+some+going+nuts+-+CNN.com & expire=07%2F29%2F2007 & urlID=23085645 & fb\ =Y & url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2007%2FLIVING%2F06%2F29%2Falmonds.ap%2Findex.h\ tml%23cnnSTCText%3Firef%3Dwerecommend & partnerID=211911 > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/06/29/almonds.ap/index.html#cnnSTCText?iref=werec\ ommend > > [Contact information/Feedback: > http://www.cnn.com/feedback/ ] > > * Story Highlights > * On September 1, almost all almonds must be > pasteurized > * Organic farmers, vegans, raw foodists not happy > with rule > * Salmonella outbreaks in 2001 and 2004 were > traced to raw almonds > * Raw nuts would be steamed or sprayed with > propylene oxide gas > > MADERA, California (AP) -- Raw, organic almonds form > the basis of Karyn Calabrese's garlicky nut pate, her > vegan pie crusts and vanilla ice cream custards. > > But under a new federal rule requiring that virtually > all almonds be pasteurized to prevent foodborne > illness, the Chicago restaurateur will have to > substitute a new nut, or go to vast lengths to import > her raw almonds from across the globe. > > Industry representatives say tightening food safety > rules to subject almonds to heat treatment will help > expand the market for California farmers, who grow > about 80 percent of the world's almonds in a flat > strip of land sandwiched between the Pacific coast and > the Sierra Nevada mountains. > > But the regulation, set to take effect September 1, > has also angered everyone from organic farmers to > followers of the restrictive raw foods diet. > > " The almond is the king of the nut world and a main > staple for raw foodists, " said Calabrese, whose > elegant restaurants feature small plates of raw, vegan > food, none of which has been heated above 110 degrees. > " I haven't even thought out what I'll do because it's > just such a mind-blowing situation. " > > Almonds have become increasingly lucrative as they've > gained popularity with health-conscious consumers. > California farmers expect to harvest 1.3 billion > pounds of almonds this year, a bumper crop worth more > than $1.4 billion. > > Following Salmonella outbreaks in 2001 and 2004 that > were traced to raw almonds, the Almond Board of > California rallied for a federal rule requiring all > almonds in the state to be pasteurized to keep > bacteria from infecting the nuts while they dry in the > orchard or while they're processed. > > " We consider it unacceptable to continue shipping a > product that could contain a microorganism that could > make somebody sick, " said Richard Waycott, president > and CEO of the board, a marketing arm of the U.S. > Department of Agriculture. " We're really confident > that this program is a win-win for everybody because > it does not alter the product. " > > In pasteurization -- a process also used for milk, > juice and eggs -- the shelled and hulled nuts > typically are laid out on a conveyor belt that passes > them through a moist burst of steam to heat the > kernels' surface to about 200 degrees, killing any > pathogens present. An alternative process sends the > nuts into a chamber where they're sprayed with > propylene oxide gas. > > Major almond buyers such as Mars Inc., Kraft Foods > Inc. and The Hershey Co. reviewed a study by the board > to determine if the process impacted the nut's > quality, taste, texture and appearance, and found it > had no effect, Waycott said. > > Once treated, the pasteurized almonds are ready for > sale and can be legally shipped throughout the U.S., > Canada and Mexico, said Michael Durando, chief for the > marketing order administration branch at USDA. > > Growers can apply for exemptions if they can prove > that their manufacturing process -- be it dry > roasting, blanching or any other traditional > treatments -- achieves pasteurization. They also can > sell small quantities of raw, unpasteurized almonds > direct to customers at farm stands or at certified > California farmers markets, but can face penalties if > they're caught selling more than 100 pounds a day to > any one person. > > That's not enough volume for Berkeley-based Living > Tree Community Foods, which soon will start importing > its raw almonds from Spain to make its " living " nut > butter. Company officials said its customers are > concerned about the health effects of propylene oxide, > a gas listed as a possible carcinogen by the > International Agency on Cancer Research. > > Federal guidelines found that extremely low residue > levels of the gas had no harmful effects, Waycott > said. But the Cornucopia Institute, a Wisconsin-based > farm policy research group, asked the USDA to hold off > on implementing the rule to solicit an independent > study on the chemical. > > The rule was developed over three years of careful > discussions between industry representatives and > agriculture officials, and won't be reconsidered, > Durando said. > > Madera-based farmer Mike Braga, whose organic nuts are > favored by live food fans and grocery chains such as > Trader Joe's, said he won't break the law by > continuing to sell raw almonds. But if customers > aren't demanding it, he said he doesn't see why he > shouldn't be able to freeze his almonds instead of > pasteurizing them. > > " We're going to lose our entire raw market, " Braga > said. " If such good almonds are available here, why > should our customers have to import them from Europe? " > > Live Simply So That > Others May Simply Live > Yoga-With-Nancy/ > SignSoFla/ > SoFlaVegans/ > SoFlaSchools/ > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. > http://farechase./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 This section caught my eye: They also can sell small quantities of raw, unpasteurized almonds direct to customers at farm stands or at certified California farmers markets, but can face penalties if they're caught selling more than 100 pounds a day to any one person.I am in California every month and would be interested in contacting some of the almond growers from a list that I have to see who will be able to sell 50 or 100 pound bags of raw almonds at their location. Is any one interested in sharing a bag of raw almonds on a monthly basis or sharing one large bulk order? And if so, would you want raw conventional or raw organic and how many pounds and how often (I have no idea how many pounds of almonds I currently consume--does any one have personal serving recommendations)? I would be willing to contact the farmers directly and bring the nuts back on the airplane or ship them to save on the cost. It might be cheaper than ordering nuts from Spain for personal consumption. Kat Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 It might be kind of difficult, unless you live in the same neighborhood. I am in Centreville, VA. Where are you located?I prefer raw organic.I have not been on this diet long enough to know how many lbs of almonds I consume/week. If I had to guess I would say maybe 1-2 lbs, but that seems like it might be too high.Scott--- katdivine87 wrote:katrina wilson <katdivine87 Subject: Re: Fwd: [soFlaVegans] Pasteurized almond rule has some going nutsWed, 25 Jul 2007 08:01:04 -0700 (PDT)This section caught my eye: They also can sell small quantities of raw, unpasteurized almonds direct to customers at farm stands or at certified California farmers markets, but can face penalties if they're caught selling more than 100 pounds a day to any one person.I am in California every month and would be interested in contacting some of the almond growers from a list that I have to see who will be able to sell 50 or 100 pound bags of raw almonds at their location. Is any one interested in sharing a bag of raw almonds on a monthly basis or sharing one large bulk order? And if so, would you want raw conventional or raw organic and how many pounds and how often (I have no idea how many pounds of almonds I currentlyconsume--does any one have personal serving recommendations)? I would be willing to contact the farmers directly and bring the nuts back on the airplane or ship them to save on the cost. It might be cheaper than ordering nuts from Spain for personal consumption. Kat Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Nutritionally we only need about 2 oz of nuts a day, so for a week that would be just under 1 pound. I realize for most new raw fooders they go through more than that, but that's could be the goal. Nancy www.healthylivingstrategies.net On Behalf Of Scott MacriWednesday, July 25, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: [soFlaVegans] Pasteurized almond rule has some going nuts It might be kind of difficult, unless you live in the same neighborhood. I am in Centreville, VA. Where are you located?I prefer raw organic.I have not been on this diet long enough to know how many lbs of almonds I consume/week. If I had to guess I would say maybe 1-2 lbs, but that seems like it might be too high.Scott--- katdivine87 wrote:katrina wilson <katdivine87 > Subject: Re: Fwd: [soFlaVegans] Pasteurized almond rule has some going nutsWed, 25 Jul 2007 08:01:04 -0700 (PDT) This section caught my eye:They also can sell small quantities of raw, unpasteurized almondsdirect to customers at farm stands or at certified California farmers markets, but can face penalties if they're caught selling more than 100 pounds a day toany one person.I am in California every month and would be interested in contacting some of the almond growers from a list that I have to see who will be able to sell 50 or 100 pound bags of raw almonds at their location. Is any one interested in sharing a bag of raw almonds on a monthly basis or sharing one large bulk order? And if so, would you want raw conventional or raw organic and how many pounds and how often (I have no idea how many pounds of almonds I currently consume--does any one have personal serving recommendations)? I would be willing to contact the farmers directly and bring the nuts back on the airplane or ship them to save on the cost. It might be cheaper than ordering nuts from Spain for personal consumption. Kat Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Scott, I have calculated how many almonds I can eat weekly and am estimating about 2 pounds counting almond milk, pates, smoothies and potlucks. But I am going to overestimate so that I have enough to last for a while. I live in DC and Baltimore but pick up for almonds would probably only be one to 3 or so times annually unless the almond growers/resellers think of another solution before then. This would also depend on your availability for storage since pounds of almonds will take up space in a basement or where ever. So for one to three pick up's a year, I could either make arrangements to send them to you directly from almond country or we could meet in Northern Virginia. I have made contact with a few organic almond growers in Northern California who will let me pick up several hundred pounds at a time (long story). Since the shelf life on the almonds is pretty long (some say 1 to 2 years), I am planning to pick up 50 to 100 pounds of almonds for myself (they come in 25# boxes which are the easiest to ship) which should last me 6 months at a time. What I found out is that almond trees bloom in February and March. The nuts grow through the summer and harvest happens in fall — usually late August through early October. Right now, almond sellers are still selling last year's harvest (since we are all eating those, that shows the shelf life). So since the ban is not until September 1, you could stock up now for the next 1 to 6 months and not have to do the bulk shipment I suggested until later in the year or next year. I planned on picking some up towards the end of this year's harvest to get them fresh so I could freeze some for pie crusts. I have written letters and would like to see the new required almond regulations be augmented to allow for easier purchase of raw almonds and to avoid the proposed mislabeling. I would also be open to more intense forms of protest however, I like to find solutions instead of harping on the challenges we have to locating quality products. I am excited that I can purchase direct from the grower and not from some middle man that has marked up or mishandled the product without my knowledge. So if you or any one else decides they want a bulk shipment, I am open to assisting up in almond country, Kat Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Scott, I have calculated how many almonds I can eat weekly and am estimating about 2 pounds counting almond milk, pates, smoothies and potlucks. But I am going to overestimate so that I have enough to last for a while. I live in DC and Baltimore but pick up for almonds would probably only be one to 3 or so times annually unless the almond growers/resellers think of another solution before then. This would also depend on your availability for storage since pounds of almonds will take up space in a basement or where ever. So for one to three pick up's a year, I could either make arrangements to send them to you directly from almond country or we could meet in Northern Virginia. I have made contact with a few organic almond growers in Northern California who will let me pick up several hundred pounds at a time (long story). Since the shelf life on the almonds is pretty long (some say 1 to 2 years), I am planning to pick up 50 to 100 pounds of almonds for myself (they come in 25# boxes which are the easiest to ship) which should last me 6 months at a time. What I found out is that almond trees bloom in February and March. The nuts grow through the summer and harvest happens in fall — usually late August through early October. Right now, almond sellers are still selling last year's harvest (since we are all eating those, that shows the shelf life). So since the ban is not until September 1, you could stock up now for the next 1 to 6 months and not have to do the bulk shipment I suggested until later in the year or next year. I planned on picking some up towards the end of this year's harvest to get them fresh so I could freeze some for pie crusts. I have written letters and would like to see the new required almond regulations be augmented to allow for easier purchase of raw almonds and to avoid the proposed mislabeling. I would also be open to more intense forms of protest however, I like to find solutions instead of harping on the challenges we have to locating quality products. I am excited that I can purchase direct from the grower and not from some middle man that has marked up or mishandled the product without my knowledge. So if you or any one else decides they want a bulk shipment, I am open to assisting up in almond country, Kat Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with FareChase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Scott, The prices I have seen so far are organic raw almonds in 25 pound boxes for $10 a box. Not sure how much this year's harvest will be and don't know how that compares with local prices but that is fine with me, Kat oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Hi KAtrina, I am interested in Raw unpasteurized organic almonds. LEt me know! Michael , katrina wilson <katdivine87 wrote: > > This section caught my eye: > > They also can sell small quantities of raw, unpasteurized almonds > direct to customers at farm stands or at certified California farmers markets, but can face penalties if they're caught selling more than 100 pounds a day to > any one person. > > I am in California every month and would be interested in contacting some of the almond growers from a list that I have to see who will be able to sell 50 or 100 pound bags of raw almonds at their location. Is any one interested in sharing a bag of raw almonds on a monthly basis or sharing one large bulk order? And if so, would you want raw conventional or raw organic and how many pounds and how often (I have no idea how many pounds of almonds I currently consume--does any one have personal serving recommendations)? I would be willing to contact the farmers directly and bring the nuts back on the airplane or ship them to save on the cost. It might be cheaper than ordering nuts from Spain for personal consumption. > > Kat > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Where did you find a deal like that? Do you mean $10/lb? That would = about $250.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- katdivine87 wrote:katrina wilson <katdivine87 Subject: Re: Fwd: [soFlaVegans] Pasteurized almond rule has some going nutsThu, 26 Jul 2007 06:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Scott, The prices I have seen so far are organic raw almonds in 25 pound boxes for $10 a box. Not sure how much this year's harvest will be and don't know how that compares with local prices but that is fine with me, Kat Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 That sounds great. I am interested. It is probably best to meet in NOVA. Are you planning on waiting until Sept?I am all for protesting. We should organize something and go protest in front of the White House. We need to get at least 50 people to go.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- katdivine87 wrote:katrina wilson <katdivine87 Subject: Re: Fwd: [soFlaVegans] Pasteurized almond rule has some going nutsThu, 26 Jul 2007 06:49:42 -0700 (PDT)Scott, I have calculated how many almonds I can eat weekly and am estimating about 2 pounds counting almond milk, pates, smoothies and potlucks. But I am going to overestimate so that I have enough to last for a while. I live in DC and Baltimore but pick up for almonds would probably only be one to 3 or so times annually unless the almond growers/resellers think of another solution before then. This would also depend on your availability for storage since pounds of almonds will take up space in a basement or where ever. So for one to three pick up's a year, I could either make arrangements to send them to you directly from almond country or we could meet in Northern Virginia. I have made contact with a few organic almond growers in Northern California who will let me pick up several hundred pounds at a time (long story). Since the shelf life on the almonds is pretty long (some say 1 to 2 years), I am planning to pick up 50 to 100pounds of almonds for myself (they come in 25# boxes which are the easiest to ship) which should last me 6 months at a time. What I found out is that almond trees bloom in February and March. The nuts grow through the summer and harvest happens in fall — usually late August through early October. Right now, almond sellers are still selling last year's harvest (since we are all eating those, that shows the shelf life). So since the ban is not until September 1, you could stock up now for the next 1 to 6 months and not have to do the bulk shipment I suggested until later in the year or next year. I planned on picking some up towards the end of this year's harvest to get them fresh so I could freeze some for pie crusts. I have written letters and would like to see the new required almond regulations be augmented to allow for easier purchase of raw almonds and to avoid the proposed mislabeling. I would also be open to more intenseforms of protest however, I like to find solutions instead of harping on the challenges we have to locating quality products. I am excited that I can purchase direct from the grower and not from some middle man that has marked up or mishandled the product without my knowledge. So if you or any one else decides they want a bulk shipment, I am open to assisting up in almond country, Kat Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I'm also interested in almond purchase if you get it up and running. Let me know on this end what you need from me. I'm in Orlando /Winter Park Florida. katrina wilson <katdivine87 wrote: Scott, The prices I have seen so far are organic raw almonds in 25 pound boxes for $10 a box. Not sure how much this year's harvest will be and don't know how that compares with local prices but that is fine with me, Kat oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Does anybody know where to find the exceptions for farmers selling direct and such? I have a farmer that will not pasteurize if I can just show him these requirements. Thanks, Elchanan On Behalf Of katrina wilsonThursday, July 26, 2007 6:50 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: [soFlaVegans] Pasteurized almond rule has some going nuts Scott, I have calculated how many almonds I can eat weekly and am estimating about 2 pounds counting almond milk, pates, smoothies and potlucks. But I am going to overestimate so that I have enough to last for a while. I live in DC and Baltimore but pick up for almonds would probably only be one to 3 or so times annually unless the almond growers/resellers think of another solution before then. This would also depend on your availability for storage since pounds of almonds will take up space in a basement or where ever. So for one to three pick up's a year, I could either make arrangements to send them to you directly from almond country or we could meet in Northern Virginia. I have made contact with a few organic almond growers in Northern California who will let me pick up several hundred pounds at a time (long story). Since the shelf life on the almonds is pretty long (some say 1 to 2 years), I am planning to pick up 50 to 100 pounds of almonds for myself (they come in 25# boxes which are the easiest to ship) which should last me 6 months at a time. What I found out is that almond trees bloom in February and March. The nuts grow through the summer and harvest happens in fall — usually late August through early October. Right now, almond sellers are still selling last year's harvest (since we are all eating those, that shows the shelf life). So since the ban is not until September 1, you could stock up now for the next 1 to 6 months and not have to do the bulk shipment I suggested until later in the year or next year. I planned on picking some up towards the end of this year's harvest to get them fresh so I could freeze some for pie crusts. I have written letters and would like to see the new required almond regulations be augmented to allow for easier purchase of raw almonds and to avoid the proposed mislabeling. I would also be open to more intense forms of protest however, I like to find solutions instead of harping on the challenges we have to locating quality products. I am excited that I can purchase direct from the grower and not from some middle man that has marked up or mishandled the product without my knowledge. So if you or any one else decides they want a bulk shipment, I am open to assisting up in almond country, Kat Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Another person I work with is also interested in going in with us. He said $10 for 25lbs sounds about right if your buying directly.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- katdivine87 wrote:katrina wilson <katdivine87 Subject: Re: Fwd: [soFlaVegans] Pasteurized almond rule has some going nutsThu, 26 Jul 2007 06:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Scott, The prices I have seen so far are organic raw almonds in 25 pound boxes for $10 a box. Not sure how much this year's harvest will be and don't know how that compares with local prices but that is fine with me, Kat oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Browse this site and you might find something useful.http://www.ota.comThe only connections I have are ones I setup myself. However, there are organizations that can help with this. I will see if I can dig up any links.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- Elchanan wrote:"Elchanan" <ElchananRE: Re: Fwd: [soFlaVegans] Pasteurized almond rule has some going nutsThu, 26 Jul 2007 11:55:19 -0700 Does anybody know where to find the exceptions for farmers selling direct and such? I have a farmer that will not pasteurize if I can just show him these requirements. Thanks, Elchanan Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 i would also be interested in purchasing. I am located in NOVA. Please, just let me know when and where. -keda (new to the list and the raw life style) On 7/26/07, olive mackey <fortheloveofraw wrote: I'm also interested in almond purchase if you get it up and running. Let me know on this end what you need from me. I'm in Orlando /Winter Park Florida. katrina wilson <katdivine87@ > wrote: Scott, The prices I have seen so far are organic raw almonds in 25 pound boxes for $10 a box. Not sure how much this year's harvest will be and don't know how that compares with local prices but that is fine with me, Kat oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers , not web links. Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 I think I will get 100#'s for myself. --ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.--- keda.maru wrote:"keda maru" <keda.maru Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: [soFlaVegans] Pasteurized almond rule has some going nutsThu, 26 Jul 2007 18:17:59 -0400 i would also be interested in purchasing. I am located in NOVA. Please, just let me know when and where. Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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