Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Hi Poppy, The product you use does not prevent receding gums. Receding gums begin as a natural swelling of the gum tissue, in response to cooked, spicy, salted, etc. foods, alcohol, etc. Receding gums are exacerbated by enthusiastic brushing and other factors. And the body CAN heal receding gums, regardless of what the mainstream may say. You cannot put any wet substance into your mouth without absorbing and swallowing at least some. First, absorption begins in the mouth itself. Second, once you mix something into saliva, some of it is definitely going down the hatch. Regarding soaps, cleaners, and such, just stop buying them, period. You can DEFINITELY afford that!!! They are ALL poisons (or at least toxins), health food store or not. Then take all that money and invest it (NOT spend it) on the very best foods you can find. Much better use of resources, much better prioritization for your own sake ... better self care. Eating is a social activity if you make it one. This is a matter of choice, there is no natural law that causes this to be so. I socialize quite comfortably and eat as I wish, also quite comfortably. And I realize that it can take some time to reach this point. For now, I'm only suggesting that you open yourself to the possibility. Just suggestions ... in my experience, the largest part of everyone's journey toward health involves paradigm shifts, changes in our beliefs. When we translate these into new practices, our entire world changes, stretching far beyond our physical health. Best, Elchanan On Behalf Of Poppy Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:29 AM Re: RE:teeth & cancer I use fluoride toothpaste with triclosan which I know many will say is horrible but 1) it will prevent receding gums and 2) I don't swallow it. It gets rid of garlic and onion breath as well. I've already made up my mind I'm not getting cancer. I can't afford to buy all my soaps, shampoos, cleansers and household products from the health food store. For those who can terrific. I eat organic when I can afford to, and when I can't I just try to stay raw. I think there is a manners aspect to the whole eating thing as well, inasmuch as eating IS a social activity even if we are (generally) " eating to live " and I can't see being %100 rigid. ie: if my great aunt spends all day making an eggplant parmesan by hand for a special occasion to accomodate my vegetarianism, then by gosh I am going to go ahead and have some, you know? Then afterwards I might use Listerine if it had a lot of garlic LOL. Sorry, I don't mean to be a troublemaker, just calling it as I see it. My opinions and views change all the time so I suppose they may very well change on these issues as well. , <pnparlette wrote: > > I think it's funny that no one says we need to stop wiping our rear ends > because there isn't toilet paper in nature, or we shouldn't use a wash > cloth or exfoliate our skin because these are not in nature. We're > talking common sense hygiene and prevention here. You all act like > there's something WRONG with cleaning your teeth??? I'm not talking > about removing enamel or harming the teeth, I'm talking keeping them > clean so they last us for Years. So much points to the importance of > maintaining our teeth to prevent many other problems that come from > cavities turning into deep infections and getting up into our brains or > the research about pancreatic cancer linking to tooth decay. Next thing > you know they'll be people telling us not to shower?? > > Sorry, but I'm in a bit of a mood this morning because my office started > a raffle to raise money for breast cancer research and I went off about > how we ALREADY have the cure for cancer but those doctors were chased > out of the country since big industry is just loving all the money they > are getting from us toward finding the perfect cure. GRRRR If anyone > has websites or articles on the topic I'd be most appreciative of you > posting them since I don't have time to look them all up. > Thanks. > N > > > > <file:///D:/Images/businesscard.gif> > > www.healthylivingstrategies.net > <http://www.healthylivingstrategies.net/> > > > On Behalf > Of Elchanan > Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:37 AM > > RE: RE: [teeth > > > > > > Interesting. I find that most important aspects of oral hygiene (note my > context switch) are chewing and relaxation. > Elchanan > _____ > > On Behalf > Of pnparlette > Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:26 PM > > RE: [teeth > > > I've found the most important part of dental care is flossing daily. I > also brush daily with a non fluoride toothpaste. > Nancy > > > > > www.healthylivingst <http://www.healthylivingstrategies.net/> > rategies.net > > > On Behalf > Of Tara > Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:06 AM > > Re: BO and a raw diet/what a Blessing > > > > > > how are you guys eating the wheat grass. > > speaking of teeth, what does everyone use or do about regular tooth > brushing? > > tara > > Namaska7 wrote: > > > Yes, > no body odor when using the living food diet. I even had my teeth > become stronger .My dentist and I had a argument . He wanted to pull a > tooth. I told him no my diet would help my tooth. He did not believe > holistic life style would heal my tooth. Well it did. > I use peroxide and baking soda for my teeth. Wheat Grass is also great > for the teeth. The greens heal the gums . This is the original diet. We > are sync with the Gods . This is the diet from the Garden for > (Eating)Eden . Everything works better with Living Foods .AREN'T YOU > GRATEFUL FOR THIS LIFE ! > Lynda > > > > > _____ > > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com > <http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/? ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982> > . > > > > > <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/05.gif> > Hugs from MD > Tara > proud mom of three great kids > Sara 10, Joey 9, and Skylar 7 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 As far as socializing goes, there are raw food groups all over. I am actually going to my first raw potluck this weekend. There will be 30+ people at it. They are all raw-foodists. You might want to look to see if there are any in your area. The best places to start are the following:Meetup.comGood Luck.--ScottDon't under estimate the wisdom of nature.If man made it, don't eat it.Raw Vegan--- Elchanan wrote:"Elchanan" <Elchanan To Poppy ...Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:28:38 -0700 Hi Poppy, The product you use does not prevent receding gums. Receding gums begin as a natural swelling of the gum tissue, in response to cooked, spicy, salted, etc. foods, alcohol, etc. Receding gums are exacerbated by enthusiastic brushing and other factors. And the body CAN heal receding gums, regardless of what the mainstream may say. You cannot put any wet substance into your mouth without absorbing and swallowing at least some. First, absorption begins in the mouth itself. Second, once you mix something into saliva, some of it is definitely going down the hatch. Regarding soaps, cleaners, and such, just stop buying them, period. You can DEFINITELY afford that!!! They are ALL poisons (or at least toxins), health food store or not. Then take all that money and invest it (NOT spend it) on the very best foods you can find. Much better use of resources, much better prioritization for your own sake ... better self care. Eating is a social activity if you make it one. This is a matter of choice, there is no natural law that causes this to be so. I socialize quite comfortably and eat as I wish, also quite comfortably. And I realize that it can take some time to reach this point. For now, I'm only suggesting that you open yourself to the possibility. Just suggestions ... in my experience, the largest part of everyone's journey toward health involves paradigm shifts, changes in our beliefs. When we translate these into new practices, our entire world changes, stretching far beyond our physical health. Best, Elchanan Learn about the power of raw foods at ---> http://www.rawfoods.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Thanks so much for this. Your words have been on my mind the last few days and there must be a reason for that. I was told the receded gums cannot heal but I will take care of them and try to lay off the chemicals. Since you mentioned alcohol I'll tell you that may be a big cause of the existing damage. I have cut down a lot on my drinking and since I have gone to raw food any amount of alcohol makes me feel awful. It isn't quite the same as it used to be. This is a good thing. , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote: > > Hi Poppy, > > The product you use does not prevent receding gums. Receding gums begin as a > natural swelling of the gum tissue, in response to cooked, spicy, salted, > etc. foods, alcohol, etc. Receding gums are exacerbated by enthusiastic > brushing and other factors. And the body CAN heal receding gums, regardless > of what the mainstream may say. > > You cannot put any wet substance into your mouth without absorbing and > swallowing at least some. First, absorption begins in the mouth itself. > Second, once you mix something into saliva, some of it is definitely going > down the hatch. > > Regarding soaps, cleaners, and such, just stop buying them, period. You can > DEFINITELY afford that!!! They are ALL poisons (or at least toxins), health > food store or not. Then take all that money and invest it (NOT spend it) on > the very best foods you can find. Much better use of resources, much better > prioritization for your own sake ... better self care. > > Eating is a social activity if you make it one. This is a matter of choice, > there is no natural law that causes this to be so. I socialize quite > comfortably and eat as I wish, also quite comfortably. And I realize that it > can take some time to reach this point. For now, I'm only suggesting that > you open yourself to the possibility. > > Just suggestions ... in my experience, the largest part of everyone's > journey toward health involves paradigm shifts, changes in our beliefs. When > we translate these into new practices, our entire world changes, stretching > far beyond our physical health. > > Best, > Elchanan > > > On Behalf Of > Poppy > Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:29 AM > > Re: RE:teeth & cancer > > I use fluoride toothpaste with triclosan which I know many will say > is horrible but 1) it will prevent receding gums and 2) I don't > swallow it. It gets rid of garlic and onion breath as well. > I've already made up my mind I'm not getting cancer. I can't afford > to buy all my soaps, shampoos, cleansers and household products from > the health food store. For those who can terrific. I eat organic > when I can afford to, and when I can't I just try to stay raw. I > think there is a manners aspect to the whole eating thing as well, > inasmuch as eating IS a social activity even if we are > (generally) " eating to live " and I can't see being %100 rigid. ie: > if my great aunt spends all day making an eggplant parmesan by hand > for a special occasion to accomodate my vegetarianism, then by gosh I > am going to go ahead and have some, you know? Then afterwards I > might use Listerine if it had a lot of garlic LOL. Sorry, I don't > mean to be a troublemaker, just calling it as I see it. My opinions > and views change all the time so I suppose they may very well change > on these issues as well. > > > > > , <pnparlette@> wrote: > > > > I think it's funny that no one says we need to stop wiping our rear > ends > > because there isn't toilet paper in nature, or we shouldn't use a > wash > > cloth or exfoliate our skin because these are not in nature. We're > > talking common sense hygiene and prevention here. You all act like > > there's something WRONG with cleaning your teeth??? I'm not talking > > about removing enamel or harming the teeth, I'm talking keeping them > > clean so they last us for Years. So much points to the importance > of > > maintaining our teeth to prevent many other problems that come from > > cavities turning into deep infections and getting up into our > brains or > > the research about pancreatic cancer linking to tooth decay. Next > thing > > you know they'll be people telling us not to shower?? > > > > Sorry, but I'm in a bit of a mood this morning because my office > started > > a raffle to raise money for breast cancer research and I went off > about > > how we ALREADY have the cure for cancer but those doctors were > chased > > out of the country since big industry is just loving all the money > they > > are getting from us toward finding the perfect cure. GRRRR If > anyone > > has websites or articles on the topic I'd be most appreciative of > you > > posting them since I don't have time to look them all up. > > Thanks. > > N > > > > > > > > <file:///D:/Images/businesscard.gif> > > > > www.healthylivingstrategies.net > > <http://www.healthylivingstrategies.net/> > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Elchanan > > Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:37 AM > > > > RE: RE: [teeth > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. I find that most important aspects of oral hygiene > (note my > > context switch) are chewing and relaxation. > > Elchanan > > _____ > > > > On > Behalf > > Of pnparlette@ > > Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:26 PM > > > > RE: [teeth > > > > > > I've found the most important part of dental care is flossing > daily. I > > also brush daily with a non fluoride toothpaste. > > Nancy > > > > > > > > > > www.healthylivingst <http://www.healthylivingstrategies.net/> > > rategies.net > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Tara > > Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:06 AM > > > > Re: BO and a raw diet/what a Blessing > > > > > > > > > > > > how are you guys eating the wheat grass. > > > > speaking of teeth, what does everyone use or do about regular tooth > > brushing? > > > > tara > > > > Namaska7@ wrote: > > > > > > Yes, > > no body odor when using the living food diet. I even had my > teeth > > become stronger .My dentist and I had a argument . He wanted to > pull a > > tooth. I told him no my diet would help my tooth. He did not believe > > holistic life style would heal my tooth. Well it did. > > I use peroxide and baking soda for my teeth. Wheat Grass is also > great > > for the teeth. The greens heal the gums . This is the original > diet. We > > are sync with the Gods . This is the diet from the Garden for > > (Eating)Eden . Everything works better with Living Foods .AREN'T YOU > > GRATEFUL FOR THIS LIFE ! > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com > > <http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/? > ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982> > > . > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/05.gif> > > Hugs from MD > > Tara > > proud mom of three great kids > > Sara 10, Joey 9, and Skylar 7 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I was so happy to find the link to Cousin's IV somewhere on this group in the links area. What a lifesaver it's been. It's five minutes from me! I can walk there on my lunch hour! Every day it is crowded and the staff and patrons are friendly and chatty, eager to share their journeys. It's really great to not feel like the weirdo on the restricted diet. There are a few other places in the area that are accommodating to raw foodists with a smaller selection of menu items. Eventually (perhaps in the spring) I would like to take the course at Cousins IV to be certified raw vegan chef. I'll look for potlucks, too. They've gotta be out there somewhere. I am sure there will be one for Thanksgiving at the very least and I am looking forward to that. *** As far as socializing goes, there are raw food groups all over. I am actually going to my first raw potluck this weekend. There will be 30+ people at it. They are all raw-foodists. You might want to look to see if there are any in your area. The best places to start are the following: Meetup.com Good Luck. -- Scott Don't under estimate the wisdom of nature. If man made it, don't eat it. Raw Vegan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Thanks Poppy, for sharing this. Isn't it wonderful, having a place such as this to connect? Sometimes I have the sense that, for many people, the only truly effective path to health is to take us completely out of where we are living and plunk us down in a place where only healthy people live and only healthful lifestyle practices are followed. For awhile, I mean. Perhaps one day ... Elchanan On Behalf Of Poppy Friday, September 07, 2007 7:24 AM Re: To Poppy ... Thanks so much for this. Your words have been on my mind the last few days and there must be a reason for that. I was told the receded gums cannot heal but I will take care of them and try to lay off the chemicals. Since you mentioned alcohol I'll tell you that may be a big cause of the existing damage. I have cut down a lot on my drinking and since I have gone to raw food any amount of alcohol makes me feel awful. It isn't quite the same as it used to be. This is a good thing. , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote: > > Hi Poppy, > > The product you use does not prevent receding gums. Receding gums begin as a > natural swelling of the gum tissue, in response to cooked, spicy, salted, > etc. foods, alcohol, etc. Receding gums are exacerbated by enthusiastic > brushing and other factors. And the body CAN heal receding gums, regardless > of what the mainstream may say. > > You cannot put any wet substance into your mouth without absorbing and > swallowing at least some. First, absorption begins in the mouth itself. > Second, once you mix something into saliva, some of it is definitely going > down the hatch. > > Regarding soaps, cleaners, and such, just stop buying them, period. You can > DEFINITELY afford that!!! They are ALL poisons (or at least toxins), health > food store or not. Then take all that money and invest it (NOT spend it) on > the very best foods you can find. Much better use of resources, much better > prioritization for your own sake ... better self care. > > Eating is a social activity if you make it one. This is a matter of choice, > there is no natural law that causes this to be so. I socialize quite > comfortably and eat as I wish, also quite comfortably. And I realize that it > can take some time to reach this point. For now, I'm only suggesting that > you open yourself to the possibility. > > Just suggestions ... in my experience, the largest part of everyone's > journey toward health involves paradigm shifts, changes in our beliefs. When > we translate these into new practices, our entire world changes, stretching > far beyond our physical health. > > Best, > Elchanan > > > On Behalf Of > Poppy > Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:29 AM > > Re: RE:teeth & cancer > > I use fluoride toothpaste with triclosan which I know many will say > is horrible but 1) it will prevent receding gums and 2) I don't > swallow it. It gets rid of garlic and onion breath as well. > I've already made up my mind I'm not getting cancer. I can't afford > to buy all my soaps, shampoos, cleansers and household products from > the health food store. For those who can terrific. I eat organic > when I can afford to, and when I can't I just try to stay raw. I > think there is a manners aspect to the whole eating thing as well, > inasmuch as eating IS a social activity even if we are > (generally) " eating to live " and I can't see being %100 rigid. ie: > if my great aunt spends all day making an eggplant parmesan by hand > for a special occasion to accomodate my vegetarianism, then by gosh I > am going to go ahead and have some, you know? Then afterwards I > might use Listerine if it had a lot of garlic LOL. Sorry, I don't > mean to be a troublemaker, just calling it as I see it. My opinions > and views change all the time so I suppose they may very well change > on these issues as well. > > > > > , <pnparlette@> wrote: > > > > I think it's funny that no one says we need to stop wiping our rear > ends > > because there isn't toilet paper in nature, or we shouldn't use a > wash > > cloth or exfoliate our skin because these are not in nature. We're > > talking common sense hygiene and prevention here. You all act like > > there's something WRONG with cleaning your teeth??? I'm not talking > > about removing enamel or harming the teeth, I'm talking keeping them > > clean so they last us for Years. So much points to the importance > of > > maintaining our teeth to prevent many other problems that come from > > cavities turning into deep infections and getting up into our > brains or > > the research about pancreatic cancer linking to tooth decay. Next > thing > > you know they'll be people telling us not to shower?? > > > > Sorry, but I'm in a bit of a mood this morning because my office > started > > a raffle to raise money for breast cancer research and I went off > about > > how we ALREADY have the cure for cancer but those doctors were > chased > > out of the country since big industry is just loving all the money > they > > are getting from us toward finding the perfect cure. GRRRR If > anyone > > has websites or articles on the topic I'd be most appreciative of > you > > posting them since I don't have time to look them all up. > > Thanks. > > N > > > > > > > > <file:///D:/Images/businesscard.gif> > > > > www.healthylivingstrategies.net > > <http://www.healthylivingstrategies.net/> > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Elchanan > > Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:37 AM > > > > RE: RE: [teeth > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. I find that most important aspects of oral hygiene > (note my > > context switch) are chewing and relaxation. > > Elchanan > > _____ > > > > On > Behalf > > Of pnparlette@ > > Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:26 PM > > > > RE: [teeth > > > > > > I've found the most important part of dental care is flossing > daily. I > > also brush daily with a non fluoride toothpaste. > > Nancy > > > > > > > > > > www.healthylivingst <http://www.healthylivingstrategies.net/> > > rategies.net > > > > > > On > Behalf > > Of Tara > > Wednesday, September 05, 2007 9:06 AM > > > > Re: BO and a raw diet/what a Blessing > > > > > > > > > > > > how are you guys eating the wheat grass. > > > > speaking of teeth, what does everyone use or do about regular tooth > > brushing? > > > > tara > > > > Namaska7@ wrote: > > > > > > Yes, > > no body odor when using the living food diet. I even had my > teeth > > become stronger .My dentist and I had a argument . He wanted to > pull a > > tooth. I told him no my diet would help my tooth. He did not believe > > holistic life style would heal my tooth. Well it did. > > I use peroxide and baking soda for my teeth. Wheat Grass is also > great > > for the teeth. The greens heal the gums . This is the original > diet. We > > are sync with the Gods . This is the diet from the Garden for > > (Eating)Eden . Everything works better with Living Foods .AREN'T YOU > > GRATEFUL FOR THIS LIFE ! > > Lynda > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com > > <http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/? > ncid=AOLAOF00020000000982> > > . > > > > > > > > > > <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/05.gif> > > Hugs from MD > > Tara > > proud mom of three great kids > > Sara 10, Joey 9, and Skylar 7 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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