Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Sorry folks, while I believe the Bible is very supportive of Rawfood eating. Jesus WAS NOT a rawfoodist. He ate fish and bread. For example - Luke 24:36-43 "As they were saying this, Jesus himself stood among them. .... Have you anything here to eat? They gave him [Jesus] a piece of broiled fish and he took it and ate before them." nancy www.healthylivingstrategies.net On Behalf Of PoppyMonday, October 15, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Jesus Was A Raw Foodist! Cool.I've seen this topic come up before in some other debate groups. Supposedly in the New Testament God "changes his mind" on this one, drops a white sheet from above and proclaims we are allowed to go ahead and eat everyone? Hm... Always seemed sorta fishy to me. LOL , Namaska7 wrote:>> > > > > > > __> > While there may not be any direct references in the Bible by Jesus regarding > a vegetarian diet, text does exist with Jesus teaching that we should not > only be eating a vegetarian diet, but that we also should be eating a > living-food diet (we should not be cooking our food). Jesus certainly taught > compassion and love, so the thought of Jesus promoting a vegetarian diet should not be > surprising to us. If you are a follower of Jesus, hopefully you will want to > read the words he shared with the Essenes, found in ancient manuscripts from > the 3rd century. If you are not a follower of Jesus, hopefully you will > still be interested in his words. You do not need to be a follower of Jesus to > understand the truth in these scriptures.> Here are some sections taken from The Essene Gospel of Peace with headings > added. For the translations of the full scriptures, follow the link at the > bottom of the page.> "Thou shalt not kill"> > 'Thou shalt not kill,' for life is given to all by God, and that which God > has given, let not man take away. For-I tell you truly, from one Mother > proceeds all that lives upon the earth. Therefore, he who kills, kills his brother. > And from him will the Earthly Mother turn away, and will pluck from him her > quickening breasts. And he will be shunned by her angels, and Satan will have > his dwelling in his body. And the flesh of slain beasts in his body will > become his own tomb. For I tell you truly, he who kills, kills himself, and > whoso eats the flesh of slain beasts, eats of the body of death. For in his blood > every drop of their blood turns to poison; in his breath their breath to > stink; in his flesh their flesh to boils; in his bones their bones to chalk; in > his bowels their bowels t o decay; in his eyes their eyes to scales; in his > ears their ears to waxy issue. And their death will become his death.> > "I have given you every herb bearing seed... to you it shall be for meat"> > Kill not, neither eat the flesh of your innocent prey, lest you become the > slaves of Satan. For that is the path of sufferings, and it leads unto death. > But do the will of God, that his angels may serve you on the way of life. > Obey, therefore, the words of God: 'Behold, I have given you every herb bearing > seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which > is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to > every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that > creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is breath of life, I give every green > herb for meat. > > "eat not anything which fire, or frost, or water has destroyed"> > But I do say to you: Kill neither men, nor beasts, nor yet the food which > goes into your mouth. For if you eat living food, the same will quicken you, > but if you kill your food, the dead food will kill you also. For life comes > only from life, and from death comes always death. For everything which kills > your foods, kills your bodies also. And everything which kills your bodies > kills your souls also. And your bodies become what your foods are, even as your > spirits, likewise, become what your thoughts are. Therefore, eat not anything > which fire, or frost, or water has destroyed. For burned, frozen and rotted > foods will burn, freeze and rot your body also. Be not like the foolish > husbandman who sowed in his ground cooked, and frozen, and rotten seeds. And the > autumn came, and his fields bore nothing. And great was his distress. But be > like that husbandman who sowed in his field living seed, and whose field bore > living ears of wheat, paying a hundredfold for the seeds which he planted. For > I tell you truly, live only by the fire of life, and prepare not your foods > with the fire of death, which kills your foods, your bodies and your souls > also." > "It is the fire which blazes outside your body, which is hotter than your > blood. With that fire of death you cook your foods in your homes and in your > fields. I tell you truly, it is the same fire which destroys your foods and > your bodies, even as the fire of malice, which ravages your thoughts, ravages > your spirits. For your body is that which you eat, and your spirit is that > which you think. Eat nothing, therefore, which a stronger fire than the fire of > life has killed. Wherefore, prepare and eat all fruits of trees, and all > grasses of the fields, and afl milk of beasts good for eating. For all these are > fed and ripened by the fire of life; all are the gift of the angels of our > Earthly Mother. But eat nothing to which only the fire of death gives savor, for > such is of Satan." > "So eat always from the table of God: the fruits of the trees, the grain and > grasses of the field, the milk of beasts, and the honey of bees. For > everything beyond these is of Satan, and leads by the way of sins and of diseases > unto death. But the foods which you eat from the abundant table of God give > strength and youth to your body, and you will never see diseases > Eat, therefore, all your life at the table of our Earthly Mother, and you > will never see want. And when you eat at her table, eat all things even as they > are found on the table of the Earthly Mother. Cook not, neither mix all > things one with another, lest your bowels become as steaming bogs. For I tell you > truly, this is abominable in the eyes of the Lord. > > > What would Jesus do? What would Jesus eat? These scriptures help clarify > what Jesus would have eaten and what he would have recommended to others.> The online version of the _ESSENE GOSPEL OF PEACE_ > (http://www.essene.com/GospelOfPeace/peace1.html) (book one) is brought to us by _The Essene Nazarean > Church of Mount Carmel_ (http://www.essene.com/) . Other books of The Essene > Gospel of Peace can be found _here_ > (http://www.essene.com/GospelOfPeace/index.html) .> > > > > __> See what's new at _AOL.com_ (http://www.aol.com/?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170) > and _Make AOL Your Homepage_ > (http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169) .> > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 HELLO BABIES,(SMILE). WHY DON'T YOU GET THE BOOK WHAT JESUS ATE. BY DR. DON COLBET? AND YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF. <pnparlette@comca st.net> Sent by: To @grou ps.com cc Subject 10/16/2007 06:34 RE: Re: Jesus Was NOT A AM Raw Foodist! Please respond to @grou ps.com Sorry folks, while I believe the Bible is very supportive of Rawfood eating. Jesus WAS NOT a rawfoodist. He ate fish and bread. For example - Luke 24:36-43 " As they were saying this, Jesus himself stood among them. .... Have you anything here to eat? They gave him [Jesus] a piece of broiled fish and he took it and ate before them. " nancy www.healthylivingstrategies.net On Behalf Of Poppy Monday, October 15, 2007 11:34 AM Re: Jesus Was A Raw Foodist! Cool. I've seen this topic come up before in some other debate groups. Supposedly in the New Testament God " changes his mind " on this one, drops a white sheet from above and proclaims we are allowed to go ahead and eat everyone? Hm... Always seemed sorta fishy to me. LOL , Namaska7 wrote: > > > > > > > > __ > > While there may not be any direct references in the Bible by Jesus regarding > a vegetarian diet, text does exist with Jesus teaching that we should not > only be eating a vegetarian diet, but that we also should be eating a > living-food diet (we should not be cooking our food). Jesus certainly taught > compassion and love, so the thought of Jesus promoting a vegetarian diet should not be > surprising to us. If you are a follower of Jesus, hopefully you will want to > read the words he shared with the Essenes, found in ancient manuscripts from > the 3rd century. If you are not a follower of Jesus, hopefully you will > still be interested in his words. You do not need to be a follower of Jesus to > understand the truth in these scriptures. > Here are some sections taken from The Essene Gospel of Peace with headings > added. For the translations of the full scriptures, follow the link at the > bottom of the page. > " Thou shalt not kill " > > 'Thou shalt not kill,' for life is given to all by God, and that which God > has given, let not man take away. For-I tell you truly, from one Mother > proceeds all that lives upon the earth. Therefore, he who kills, kills his brother. > And from him will the Earthly Mother turn away, and will pluck from him her > quickening breasts. And he will be shunned by her angels, and Satan will have > his dwelling in his body. And the flesh of slain beasts in his body will > become his own tomb. For I tell you truly, he who kills, kills himself, and > whoso eats the flesh of slain beasts, eats of the body of death. For in his blood > every drop of their blood turns to poison; in his breath their breath to > stink; in his flesh their flesh to boils; in his bones their bones to chalk; in > his bowels their bowels t o decay; in his eyes their eyes to scales; in his > ears their ears to waxy issue. And their death will become his death. > > " I have given you every herb bearing seed... to you it shall be for meat " > > Kill not, neither eat the flesh of your innocent prey, lest you become the > slaves of Satan. For that is the path of sufferings, and it leads unto death. > But do the will of God, that his angels may serve you on the way of life. > Obey, therefore, the words of God: 'Behold, I have given you every herb bearing > seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which > is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to > every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that > creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is breath of life, I give every green > herb for meat. > > " eat not anything which fire, or frost, or water has destroyed " > > But I do say to you: Kill neither men, nor beasts, nor yet the food which > goes into your mouth. For if you eat living food, the same will quicken you, > but if you kill your food, the dead food will kill you also. For life comes > only from life, and from death comes always death. For everything which kills > your foods, kills your bodies also. And everything which kills your bodies > kills your souls also. And your bodies become what your foods are, even as your > spirits, likewise, become what your thoughts are. Therefore, eat not anything > which fire, or frost, or water has destroyed. For burned, frozen and rotted > foods will burn, freeze and rot your body also. Be not like the foolish > husbandman who sowed in his ground cooked, and frozen, and rotten seeds. And the > autumn came, and his fields bore nothing. And great was his distress. But be > like that husbandman who sowed in his field living seed, and whose field bore > living ears of wheat, paying a hundredfold for the seeds which he planted. For > I tell you truly, live only by the fire of life, and prepare not your foods > with the fire of death, which kills your foods, your bodies and your souls > also. " > " It is the fire which blazes outside your body, which is hotter than your > blood. With that fire of death you cook your foods in your homes and in your > fields. I tell you truly, it is the same fire which destroys your foods and > your bodies, even as the fire of malice, which ravages your thoughts, ravages > your spirits. For your body is that which you eat, and your spirit is that > which you think. Eat nothing, therefore, which a stronger fire than the fire of > life has killed. Wherefore, prepare and eat all fruits of trees, and all > grasses of the fields, and afl milk of beasts good for eating. For all these are > fed and ripened by the fire of life; all are the gift of the angels of our > Earthly Mother. But eat nothing to which only the fire of death gives savor, for > such is of Satan. " > " So eat always from the table of God: the fruits of the trees, the grain and > grasses of the field, the milk of beasts, and the honey of bees. For > everything beyond these is of Satan, and leads by the way of sins and of diseases > unto death. But the foods which you eat from the abundant table of God give > strength and youth to your body, and you will never see diseases > Eat, therefore, all your life at the table of our Earthly Mother, and you > will never see want. And when you eat at her table, eat all things even as they > are found on the table of the Earthly Mother. Cook not, neither mix all > things one with another, lest your bowels become as steaming bogs. For I tell you > truly, this is abominable in the eyes of the Lord. > > > What would Jesus do? What would Jesus eat? These scriptures help clarify > what Jesus would have eaten and what he would have recommended to others. > The online version of the _ESSENE GOSPEL OF PEACE_ > (http://www.essene.com/GospelOfPeace/peace1.html) (book one) is brought to us by _The Essene Nazarean > Church of Mount Carmel_ (http://www.essene.com/) . Other books of The Essene > Gospel of Peace can be found _here_ > (http://www.essene.com/GospelOfPeace/index.html) . > > > > > __ > See what's new at _AOL.com_ (http://www.aol.com/? NCID=AOLCMP00300000001170) > and _Make AOL Your Homepage_ > (http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP00300000001169) . > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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