raw dairy

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I am in California until late Spring. I have enjoyed having access to a variety of raw restaurants and events and exposure to the lastest food experiments and trends. One thing I have noticed recently is that some raw vegans have transitioned into eating more lightly steamed foods (Gabriel Cousens' retreat in Arizona is one such place) and some have switched from being vegan to incorporating more superfoods and raw diary products. Over the past few months, I have seen an increase in the interest and availability of a wide array of raw milks, cheeses and colostrom (for its immunity benefits) straight from the farm. I was at first suprised to see so many self-proclaimed vegans being open to this shift but I am keeping an open mind because I realize that California is in the forefront of a

lot of food trends (before the hit the rest of the US). In addition, although I have not considered this route myself, I have been assisting with a few cancer patients and I have personally witnessed the benefits these patients have had from adding raw diary to their diet. I was wondering what every one's thoughts were about this. Of course, raw diary is a raw food but I wanted to hear people's experiences and thoughts.

[Guest guest]

Peace Katrina,Thanks for your post. I thought one of the problems with dairy in general is that it promotes the formation of mucus in the body. I also heard that it promotes the growth of tumors in women. Normally i site sources, but I am in a bit of a hurry today and so am just coming of the top of my head. i appreciate that you are open. i am as well. would be interested to hear other thoughts on this. also--can you elaborate on why they are using dairy at the TOL in arizona? When they sponsored the simply raw film team, they advocated a vegan diet--so i wonder why they are switiching. again, thanks for your post.Peace again,Asia--- On Sun, 3/8/09, katrina wilson <katdivine87 wrote:katrina wilson <katdivine87 raw dairy Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 6:54 PM

 

I am in California until late Spring. I have enjoyed having access to a variety of raw restaurants and events and exposure to the lastest food experiments and trends. One thing I have noticed recently is that some raw vegans have transitioned into eating more lightly steamed foods (Gabriel Cousens' retreat in Arizona is one such place) and some have switched from being vegan to incorporating more superfoods and raw diary products. Over the past few months, I have seen an increase in the interest and availability of a wide array of raw milks, cheeses and colostrom (for its immunity benefits) straight from the farm. I was at first suprised to see so many self-proclaimed vegans being open to this shift but I am keeping an open mind because I realize that California is in the forefront of a

lot of food trends (before the hit the rest of the US). In addition, although I have not considered this route myself, I have been assisting with a few cancer patients and I have personally witnessed the benefits these patients have had from adding raw diary to their diet. I was wondering what every one's thoughts were about this. Of course, raw diary is a raw food but I wanted to hear people's experiences and thoughts.

[Guest guest]

Asia, I don't recall any mention of Tree of Life using raw dairy in the

prior message, which would be horrifically anathema to their raison

d'etre. However, I was very surprised to read that Gabriel Cousens has

incorporated steamed food into the regimen. I hope this is only a

ludicrous rumor, as this too would contradict the purpose of TOL Center

in the first instance, since steamed food is not raw prima facie. If

you put your finger into a steamer as it steams the food, you're

guaranteed to be burned. Since burning one's flesh is not conducive to

vibrant metabolism of bodliy tissue, the same principle must apply to

the food one ingests into one's body. There is no more life force in a

steamed vegetable or fruit than there is in a burned finger, perhaps

less so. Raw dairy nevertheless is not conducive to human health, even

if it contains colostrum, which is a by-product of the fetal gestation.

These products if meant for anyone's consumption are intended by nature

for the direct offspring of the mother, not another mammalian species,

whose dietary needs are significantly foreign to those of another

mammalian species. Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

(www.pcrm.org) has invaluable reams of information that explains these

logical principles for all laypeople who may be skeptical, regardless

of whether one consumes the SAD or a raw diet. Robert Cohen, author of

" Milk: The Deadly Poison, " furthermore has a wealth

of scientifically

empirical insight into these critical issues on his URL,

www.notmilk.com, as well as in his newer, more concise book, " Milk:

From A to Z. " I urge you all to take full advantage of these vital

resources.

 

Namaste,

David

 

 

  " Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little

Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. "

--Benjamin Franklin

 

" Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by

the president or any other public official save exactly to the degree

in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support

him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not

to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he

fails in his duty to stand by the country. "

--Pres. Theodore Roosevelt, 1908

 

 

 

 

Asia Bleu <asiableu9

 

Thu, 12 Mar 2009 3:58 pm

Re: raw dairy

 

Peace Katrina,

 

Thanks for your post.  I thought one of the problems with dairy in

general is that it promotes the formation of mucus in the body.  I also

heard that it promotes the growth of tumors in women.  Normally i site

sources, but I am in a bit of a hurry today and so am just coming of

the top of my head.  i appreciate that you are open. i am as well. 

would be interested to hear other thoughts on20this.  also--can you

elaborate on why they are using dairy at the TOL in arizona?  When they

sponsored the simply raw film team, they advocated a vegan diet--so i

wonder why they are switiching.  again, thanks for your post.

 

Peace again,

 

Asia

 

--- On Sun, 3/8/09, katrina wilson <katdivine87 wrote:

 

 

katrina wilson <katdivine87

raw dairy

 

Sunday, March 8, 2009, 6:54 PM

 

I am in California until late Spring. I have enjoyed having access to a

variety of raw restaurants and events and exposure to the lastest food

experiments and trends. One thing I have noticed recently is that some

raw vegans have transitioned into eating more lightly steamed foods

(Gabriel Cousens' retreat in Arizona is one such place) and some have

switched from being vegan to incorporating more superfoods and raw

diary products. Over the past few months, I have seen an increase in

the interest and availability of a wide array of raw milks, cheeses and

colostrom (for its immunity benefits) straight from the farm. I was at

first suprised to see so many self-proclaimed vegans being open to this

shift but I am keeping an open mind because I realize that California

is in the forefront of a lot of food trends (before the hit the rest of

the US). In addition, although I have not considered this route myself,

I have been assisting with a few cancer patien

ts and I have personally

witnessed the benefits these patients have had from adding raw diary to

their diet.

 

I was wondering what every one's thoughts were about this. Of course,

raw diary is a raw food but I wanted to hear people's experiences and

thoughts.

[Guest guest]

Thanks David. BTW, when the post below said Gabriel Cousen's "Retreat", I assumed that referred to the TOL. Anyway--will check out refs. Thanks again.A.--- On Thu, 3/12/09, David L Fishman <DapperD72 wrote:David L Fishman <DapperD72Re: raw dairy Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 5:15 PM

 

Asia, I don't recall any mention of Tree of Life using raw dairy in the

prior message, which would be horrifically anathema to their raison

d'etre. However, I was very surprised to read that Gabriel Cousens has

incorporated steamed food into the regimen. I hope this is only a

ludicrous rumor, as this too would contradict the purpose of TOL Center

in the first instance, since steamed food is not raw prima facie. If

you put your finger into a steamer as it steams the food, you're

guaranteed to be burned. Since burning one's flesh is not conducive to

vibrant metabolism of bodliy tissue, the same principle must apply to

the food one ingests into one's body. There is no more life force in a

steamed vegetable or fruit than there is in a burned finger, perhaps

less so. Raw dairy nevertheless is not conducive to human health, even

if it contains colostrum, which is a by-product of the fetal gestation.

These products if meant for anyone's consumption are intended by nature

for the direct offspring of the mother, not another mammalian species,

whose dietary needs are significantly foreign to those of another

mammalian species. Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

(www.pcrm.org) has invaluable reams of information that explains these

logical principles for all laypeople who may be skeptical, regardless

of whether one consumes the SAD or a raw diet. Robert Cohen, author of

"Milk: The Deadly Poison," furthermore has a wealth

of scientifically

empirical insight into these critical issues on his URL,

www.notmilk. com, as well as in his newer, more concise book, "Milk:

From A to Z." I urge you all to take full advantage of these vital

resources.

 

Namaste,

David

 

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little

Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

--Benjamin Franklin

 

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by

the president or any other public official save exactly to the degree

in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support

him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not

to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he

fails in his duty to stand by the country."

--Pres. Theodore Roosevelt, 1908

 

 

--- On Sun, 3/8/09, katrina wilson <katdivine87@ > wrote:

 

katrina wilson <katdivine87@ >

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Sunday, March 8, 2009, 6:54 PM

 

I am in California until late Spring. I have enjoyed having access to a

variety of raw restaurants and events and exposure to the lastest food

experiments and trends. One thing I have noticed recently is that some

raw vegans have transitioned into eating more lightly steamed foods

(Gabriel Cousens' retreat in Arizona is one such place) and some have

switched from being vegan to incorporating more superfoods and raw

diary products. Over the past few months, I have seen an increase in

the interest and availability of a wide array of raw milks, cheeses and

colostrom (for its immunity benefits) straight from the farm. I was at

first suprised to see so many self-proclaimed vegans being open to this

shift but I am keeping an open mind because I realize that California

is in the forefront of a lot of food trends (before the hit the rest of

the US). In addition, although I have not considered this route myself,

I have been assisting with a few cancer patien

ts and I have personally

witnessed the benefits these patients have had from adding raw diary to

their diet.

 

I was wondering what every one's thoughts were about this. Of course,

raw diary is a raw food but I wanted to hear people's experiences and

thoughts.