Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 Our group has grown to 50 members in less than a month. Of course it isn't just the quantity of members that makes a good e-group, but the quality of the participation. Thus far I am very pleased with how this one is working out. We have a nice balance of different types of vegetarians, and even some members who aren't vegetarians, but just like to cook and share recipe ideas with us. Personally, I like the chatter, with the balance of wonderful recipes, and helpful ideas; I have gotten many good ideas and inspiration from you all. The weather is beginning to turn cooler, and I love this time of year. I always feel a bit of a nesting instinct. I have a grape arbor ful of concord grapes. I like to just eat them and spit the seeds out, but I was wondering if any of you had recipe ideas for them; aside from grape jelly (takes too much time and effort) and concord grape pie (which I have made but dislike)? If not, no matter. I will simply allow the birds to eat what I don't eat myself. I do the same thing with my sunflowers; just grow them for the birds. Welcome to the new members that joined this weekend. It is wonderful to see you posting recipes and participating in discussion. If you are a pet guardian, feel free to share your photos of them. ~ P_T ~ Most men pursue pleasure with such breathless haste they hurry past it. -Soren Kierkegaard, philosopher (1813-1855) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 Make raisins? Make wine? Make juice? You're very lucky - our grapes are mustang. Too spicey to eat but do make a tastey wine:) Warmly, Allison --- ~ P_T ~ <patchouli_troll wrote: > Our group has grown to 50 members in less than a > month. Of course it isn't > just the quantity of members that makes a good > e-group, but the quality of > the participation. Thus far I am very pleased with > how this one is working out. > We have a nice balance of different types of > vegetarians, and even some > members who aren't vegetarians, but just like to > cook and share recipe ideas > with us. Personally, I like the chatter, with the > balance of wonderful recipes, > and helpful ideas; I have gotten many good ideas and > inspiration from you > all. > > The weather is beginning to turn cooler, and I love > this time of year. I always > feel a bit of a nesting instinct. I have a grape > arbor ful of concord grapes. I like > to just eat them and spit the seeds out, but I was > wondering if any of you had > recipe ideas for them; aside from grape jelly (takes > too much time and effort) > and concord grape pie (which I have made but > dislike)? If not, no matter. I will > simply allow the birds to eat what I don't eat > myself. I do the same thing with > my sunflowers; just grow them for the birds. > > Welcome to the new members that joined this weekend. > It is wonderful to see > you posting recipes and participating in discussion. > If you are a pet guardian, > feel free to share your photos of them. > > ~ P_T ~ > > Most men pursue pleasure with such breathless haste > they hurry past it. > -Soren Kierkegaard, philosopher (1813-1855) > > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 Mustang grapes make the best jelly! And, who says jelly making takes a long time? I love doing it... you can juice the grapes one day, freeze the juice and then make the jelly later. But, I like making it all at once, one mess, one clean up job. My sister lives near Palaside, Colorado and brought peaches to our parents this summer. They were amazing! But, there was no way to eat them all, so I made tons of jelly. As fast as my boyfriend and I eat it, it won't last long either. Heck, I'd say next day mail the grapes to me and I'd make the jelly... yum... Genie Allison Nations wrote:Make raisins? Make wine? Make juice? You're very lucky - our grapes are mustang. Too spicey to eat but do make a tastey wine:) Warmly, Allison --- ~ P_T ~ <patchouli_troll wrote: > Our group has grown to 50 members in less than a > month. Of course it isn't > just the quantity of members that makes a good > e-group, but the quality of > the participation. Thus far I am very pleased with > how this one is working out. > We have a nice balance of different types of > vegetarians, and even some > members who aren't vegetarians, but just like to > cook and share recipe ideas > with us. Personally, I like the chatter, with the > balance of wonderful recipes, > and helpful ideas; I have gotten many good ideas and > inspiration from you > all. > > The weather is beginning to turn cooler, and I love > this time of year. I always > feel a bit of a nesting instinct. I have a grape > arbor ful of concord grapes. I like > to just eat them and spit the seeds out, but I was > wondering if any of you had > recipe ideas for them; aside from grape jelly (takes > too much time and effort) > and concord grape pie (which I have made but > dislike)? If not, no matter. I will > simply allow the birds to eat what I don't eat > myself. I do the same thing with > my sunflowers; just grow them for the birds. > > Welcome to the new members that joined this weekend. > It is wonderful to see > you posting recipes and participating in discussion. > If you are a pet guardian, > feel free to share your photos of them. > > ~ P_T ~ > > Most men pursue pleasure with such breathless haste > they hurry past it. > -Soren Kierkegaard, philosopher (1813-1855) > > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:04:14 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > >Mustang grapes make the best jelly! And, who says jelly making takes a long time? I love doing it... Is 'mustang' quite the right word? I thought that was horses, not grapes? There's a wildish kind of grape and a word for it, and I think it starts with 'mus', but I'm not sure what the rest is. Maybe 'muscat' ? Ah. I see (from http://www.m-w.com) that muscat means 'any of several cultivated grapes used in making wine and raisins' and they are the grapes from which the wine Muscatel is made. It's also the name of a country - 'Muscat and Oman'. (I just always get curious about things.) But maybe there's another kind of grapes which *are* called mustang? Pat -- Pat Meadows Books, books! Low prices. Music CDs too! http://www.wellsborocomputing.com/sales.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 Pat, The grapes here in Texas are Mustang grapes (I don't know how far North they grow). Some are black and some are deep blue. They have a tough skin and spicey meat. Not great for eating but make wonderful wines and jellies. They grow like weeds out here and are considered by me to be a parasitic vine...They've killed my trees in the past. Warmly, Allison --- Pat Meadows <pat wrote: > On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:04:14 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > > > > >Mustang grapes make the best jelly! And, who says > jelly making takes a long time? I love doing it... > > Is 'mustang' quite the right word? I thought that > was > horses, not grapes? > > There's a wildish kind of grape and a word for it, > and I > think it starts with 'mus', but I'm not sure what > the rest > is. Maybe 'muscat' ? > > Ah. I see (from http://www.m-w.com) that muscat > means 'any > of several cultivated grapes used in making wine and > raisins' and they are the grapes from which the wine > Muscatel is made. > > It's also the name of a country - 'Muscat and > Oman'. > > (I just always get curious about things.) > > But maybe there's another kind of grapes which *are* > called > mustang? > > Pat > -- > Pat Meadows > Books, books! Low prices. > Music CDs too! > http://www.wellsborocomputing.com/sales.html > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 Pat, The grapes here in Texas are Mustang grapes (I don't know how far North they grow). Some are black and some are deep blue. They have a tough skin and spicey meat. Not great for eating but make wonderful wines and jellies. They grow like weeds out here and are considered by me to be a parasitic vine...They've killed my trees in the past. Warmly, Allison --- Pat Meadows <pat wrote: > On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:04:14 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > > > > >Mustang grapes make the best jelly! And, who says > jelly making takes a long time? I love doing it... > > Is 'mustang' quite the right word? I thought that > was > horses, not grapes? > > There's a wildish kind of grape and a word for it, > and I > think it starts with 'mus', but I'm not sure what > the rest > is. Maybe 'muscat' ? > > Ah. I see (from http://www.m-w.com) that muscat > means 'any > of several cultivated grapes used in making wine and > raisins' and they are the grapes from which the wine > Muscatel is made. > > It's also the name of a country - 'Muscat and > Oman'. > > (I just always get curious about things.) > > But maybe there's another kind of grapes which *are* > called > mustang? > > Pat > -- > Pat Meadows > Books, books! Low prices. > Music CDs too! > http://www.wellsborocomputing.com/sales.html > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 Indeed... there is a species of grapes called Vitis mustangensis that does live here in Texas. It is exceptionally common in Texas and beyond that I'm not sure, my handy " The Plant-Book " reference didn't list all the wild species of grapes and their ranges. They do grow wild and often take over small trees but make wonderful jelly and are well worth the effort... but one must wear bug spray, they often live thickly with chiggers. A less than pleasant memory but one that I will keep my entire life. Anyways, any other plant questions, just ask me, your friendly botany grad student. Genie Allison Nations wrote:Pat, The grapes here in Texas are Mustang grapes (I don't know how far North they grow). Some are black and some are deep blue. They have a tough skin and spicey meat. Not great for eating but make wonderful wines and jellies. They grow like weeds out here and are considered by me to be a parasitic vine...They've killed my trees in the past. Warmly, Allison --- Pat Meadows <pat wrote: > On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:04:14 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > > > > >Mustang grapes make the best jelly! And, who says > jelly making takes a long time? I love doing it... > > Is 'mustang' quite the right word? I thought that > was > horses, not grapes? > > There's a wildish kind of grape and a word for it, > and I > think it starts with 'mus', but I'm not sure what > the rest > is. Maybe 'muscat' ? > > Ah. I see (from http://www.m-w.com) that muscat > means 'any > of several cultivated grapes used in making wine and > raisins' and they are the grapes from which the wine > Muscatel is made. > > It's also the name of a country - 'Muscat and > Oman'. > > (I just always get curious about things.) > > But maybe there's another kind of grapes which *are* > called > mustang? > > Pat > -- > Pat Meadows > Books, books! Low prices. > Music CDs too! > http://www.wellsborocomputing.com/sales.html > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:20:43 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >Pat, > >The grapes here in Texas are Mustang grapes (I don't >know how far North they grow). Some are black and >some are deep blue. They have a tough skin and spicey >meat. Not great for eating but make wonderful wines >and jellies. They grow like weeds out here and are >considered by me to be a parasitic vine...They've >killed my trees in the past. > I never heard of them, although we do have wild grapevines around here - sort of dark blue grapes, very small. I'm in northern Pennsylvania, in the Appalachian Mountains. Thanks! I learn something new every day. Pat -- Pat Meadows Books, books! Low prices. Music CDs too! http://www.wellsborocomputing.com/sales.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 11:38:17 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > >Indeed... there is a species of grapes called Vitis mustangensis that does live here in Texas. It is exceptionally common in Texas and beyond that I'm not sure, my handy " The Plant-Book " reference didn't list all the wild species of grapes and their ranges. They do grow wild and often take over small trees but make wonderful jelly and are well worth the effort... but one must wear bug spray, they often live thickly with chiggers. A less than pleasant memory but one that I will keep my entire life. Anyways, any other plant questions, just ask me, your friendly botany grad student. Thanks, Genie. There are advantages to living in the North - and certainly one of them is not having chiggers! Pat -- Pat Meadows Books, books! Low prices. Music CDs too! http://www.wellsborocomputing.com/sales.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 (Pat)-There are advantages to living in > the North > - and certainly one of them is not having chiggers! > Or scorpions or fire ants or cotton mouths.... Warmly, Allison New DSL Internet Access from SBC & http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 > I have a grape arbor ful of concord grapes. Oh, I'm so jealous! I planted a grape vine, but it doesn't do anyting; disappears in the winter and does little in the summer. *sigh* Juice those suckers!! And pass some over here... my parrots all LOVE grapes, but shouldn't have the store ones (high in pesticides). Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 yes, but I have a garden in the fall and early spring, rarely have to scrape my windshield, don't have to put on 5 layers of clothes to take my dog out.... But, still I miss the north! If only I could convince my fiance that snow was not evil... Allison Nations wrote:(Pat)-There are advantages to living in > the North > - and certainly one of them is not having chiggers! > Or scorpions or fire ants or cotton mouths.... Warmly, Allison New DSL Internet Access from SBC & http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:33:50 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >(Pat)-There are advantages to living in >> the North >> - and certainly one of them is not having chiggers! >> > >Or scorpions or fire ants or cotton mouths.... > Or palmetto bugs (the giant flying cockroaches in Florida). Pat (I love it here in northern PA!) Meadows -- Pat Meadows Books, books! Low prices. Music CDs too! http://www.wellsborocomputing.com/sales.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2002 Report Share Posted September 30, 2002 On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 13:53:10 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > >yes, but I have a garden in the fall and early spring, rarely have to scrape my windshield, don't have to put on 5 layers of clothes to take my dog out.... >But, still I miss the north! If only I could convince my fiance that snow was not evil... My husband doesn't like snow either. But here we are. Pat -- Pat Meadows Books, books! Low prices. Music CDs too! http://www.wellsborocomputing.com/sales.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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