Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 Pat: Thank you for responding to my E-mail. You sound as if you have spent as much time on this quest for truth in diet and exercise as I have. Today I'm tired of the quest. I'm finding it tiring to go through everything searching for truth and lies. I'm tired of watching television commercials, reading research findings, which may have been funded by the mild industry, and I'm tired of being lied to by doctors. I'm just taking it easy today. Your E-mail was easy reading. Thanks. Ron McClure Rlmftw --- Pat Meadows <pat wrote: > On Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:57:25 -0800 (PST), you wrote: > > > > > >I am preparing to start diet and exercise program, > >which I hope will reverse the plaque and > >atherosclerosis that I have built up in my coronary > >and peripheral arteries over the past 59 years. > I'm > >looking for a diet and exercise program that will > >protect me from diabetes, lung cancer, gout, > >hypertension, cardiovascular disease, and the > chronic, > >degenerative diseases pandemic in the USA. > > > >Is anyone out there interested in these things? > > Yes, of course. But it's not that simple. No diet > is going > to give you 100% protection against all those > conditions. > > I think the evidence is overwhelming, though, that a > moderately low-fat diet heavy on fresh fruits and > vegetables > is your best bet. And that grains and carbohydrates > should > be WHOLE grains, unrefined (such as brown rice > rather than > white rice, wholewheat bread rather than white > bread, etc.). > In short, a varied diet of WHOLE natural foods. > Just what > the 'health-food freaks' have been saying for the > past 50 > years or more, actually. > > I dislike making statements such as this without > having URLs > immediately at hand, but in this case, the statement > is > based on all that I've read about nutrition over the > last > thirty years - which is a considerable amount. > > Here's one interesting article from the current > Scientific > American: > > http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?colID=1 & articleID=0007C5B6-7152-1DF6-9733809EC5\ 88EEDF > > Pat > > -- > Pat Meadows > > CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY > United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/ > International: http://www.thehungersite.com/ > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 Hi again, Ron. Thanks for you thanks ;=) (Hey, this could get really silly !!!! ) Good for you going to Overeaters Anon - anything that tries to help and works is a good idea. As for how to find a healthy lifestyle, I finished reading, late last night, that item from Scientific American that Pat Meadows gave us the link to. I think it sounds really really sane - and one can't go wrong there. (Why sanity is so highly prized I dunno - after all, all our old prophets and wisemen were mad, as were a bunch of artist, writers, poets - not to mention politiciams - but I digress ;=) ) Anyway, what I wanted to say yesterday was not that it's no point having a healthy diet because it doesn't cure stuff - but that having a bad diet is what causes a whole bunch of the nasties that we all try to avoid. Of course, some things are genetic, one can't help that as much as we'd like. And we all have to say goodbye in the end. Duh. Meanwhile, going 'back' as it were to a simpler and less fussed (less processed, less additive) diet is a good start to *RE*claiming some of what we've kinda thrown away and lost track of. Besides, it tastes better, which makes us happier, and happy people live longer ;=) But hey, we all know this ;=) What we need sometimes is a little support and a few ideas to help us achieve it. That's where this new list is so great, I think. It allows for exchange of ideas *and* for exchanging recipes and eating tips. My thought for the day: When in doubt, have another apple. Good luck to you - you sound as if you're doing just great. Best, pat - in london, ontario -- PAT - AND CASEY & MADE - AND MISHA THE CAT WHO LOVES BEAGLES (In London, Ontario, Canada) OUR EMAIL LIST: townhounds- PERSONAL EMAIL: SANTBROWN PERSONAL WEBPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- " I don't do pawprints. " -- Snoopy ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2002 Report Share Posted December 30, 2002 In the mountains of truth you never climb in vain. -Friedrich Nietzsche, philosopher (1844-1900) Take that well deserved rest and begin again with renewed cheer. Namaste. ~ P_T ~ ~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> , Ron McClure <rlmftw> wrote: > Today I'm tired of the quest. I'm finding it tiring > to go through everything searching for truth and lies. > I'm tired of watching television commercials, reading > research findings, which may have been funded by the > mild industry, and I'm tired of being lied to by > doctors. > > I'm just taking it easy today. Your E-mail was easy > reading. Thanks. > > Ron McClure > Rlmftw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2002 Report Share Posted December 31, 2002 Pat: Thanks for your support. I think I'm having a good day. As it turns out, the diet that I'm moving toward is pretty much what stone-age man ate! I recently read that there is a group of indians in the mountains of Northern Mexico who are so poor that they eat mainly corn, beans, squash, poke sally, vegetables and fruit. They can't afford cars so they have to walk all over the mountains! Would you believe it. Diabetes, cardiovascular disease, lung cancer, alcoholism and some 20-30 chronic, degenerative diseases are unknown and undetected in the entire population of 50,000 indians! Well, I was so amazed that I went down to Sierra Tarahumara, Estacion Creel, Chihuahua, Mexico and lived a month on the ejido, or reservation, at Cusarare. Well, when I got down there, I found that the book I had read was published in 1979 and things have changed since then. Estacion Creel has become enough of a tourist spot that the Tarahumara Indians can sell their blankets and pottery to the tourists, and this gives them enough money to buy candy, cokes, pork and an occassional cigarette or beer to add to their diet. In fact, a convenience store full of junk food moved on to the ejido in 1984. Would you believe it? Now the Tarahumara are beginning to show up at hospitals with diabetes, cancer, alcoholism, obesity, gout, hypertension, tooth decay, diverticulitis, cardiovascular disease--and some 20-30 other chronic, degenerative diseases pandemic in the USA!!!! I conclude that it is the sugar, fats, cigarettes, alcohol, etc, etc, that is doing it, obviously. Ron McClure rlmftw --- Sant & Brown <santbrown wrote: > Hi again, Ron. > > Thanks for you thanks ;=) (Hey, this could get > really silly !!!! ) Good > for you going to Overeaters Anon - anything that > tries to help and works > is a good idea. As for how to find a healthy > lifestyle, I finished > reading, late last night, that item from Scientific > American that Pat > Meadows gave us the link to. I think it sounds > really really sane - and > one can't go wrong there. (Why sanity is so highly > prized I dunno - > after all, all our old prophets and wisemen were > mad, as were a bunch of > artist, writers, poets - not to mention politiciams > - but I digress ;=) > ) > > Anyway, what I wanted to say yesterday was not that > it's no point having > a healthy diet because it doesn't cure stuff - but > that having a bad > diet is what causes a whole bunch of the nasties > that we all try to > avoid. Of course, some things are genetic, one can't > help that as much > as we'd like. And we all have to say goodbye in the > end. Duh. > > Meanwhile, going 'back' as it were to a simpler and > less fussed (less > processed, less additive) diet is a good start to > *RE*claiming some of > what we've kinda thrown away and lost track of. > Besides, it tastes > better, which makes us happier, and happy people > live longer ;=) But > hey, we all know this ;=) What we need sometimes is > a little support and > a few ideas to help us achieve it. That's where this > new list is so > great, I think. It allows for exchange of ideas > *and* for exchanging > recipes and eating tips. > > My thought for the day: When in doubt, have another > apple. > > Good luck to you - you sound as if you're doing just > great. > > Best, > pat - in london, ontario > > -- > PAT - AND CASEY & MADE - AND MISHA THE CAT WHO LOVES > BEAGLES > (In London, Ontario, Canada) > OUR EMAIL LIST: townhounds- > PERSONAL EMAIL: SANTBROWN > PERSONAL WEBPAGE: > http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ > ---------- > " I don't do pawprints. " -- Snoopy > ---------- > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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