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In a message dated 01/10/2003 8:09:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

patchouli_troll writes:

 

 

> NYer living in Oregon and I have never eaten grits in my life. I

> tried them, and

>

 

LOL, one must make grits at home with lots of butter! I make mine with milk

and butter but of course I'm lacto ovo. Grits made in many rest. and

serviced food places are not exactly on my list of " good food " ! LOL but I do

like homemade. Robin in NC

PS I was born in ILL and never saw them there. My Mother was born in NC and

was well versed in grits.

 

 

 

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Yuck! I think I would have thrown it at the flight attendant's hair!

" Just pick it

out " , I would have said to her as they dragged me away in handcuffs.

*lol*

 

When I flew back to NY last summer I had good luck with my

vegetarian

meals, as far as airplane food goes. My only complaint would have

been with

the breakfast I had flying back. They had the audacity to give me

grits! I am a

NYer living in Oregon and I have never eaten grits in my life. I

tried them, and

they were nasty, I must say. They did give me peanut butter for my

bagel

though. All the meals were vegan as they had no lacto-ovo options. I

think I

would do that again, really. I believe vegan would be safer and one

would be

less likely to get mystery meat in their meal.

 

~ P_T ~

 

Perfection is attained by slow degrees; it requires the hand of time.

-Voltaire, philosopher (1694-1778)

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Sant & Brown <santbrown

Re: McDonald's Lawsuit

 

Reminds me of the flight I was on in November. My husband and I had

both

requested vegetarian meals - ovo lacto. When our trays arrived we were

given omelettes and they smelled a bit funny so we asked. Finding that

those pink bits all through it was indeed ham and not veggie ham, we

were told we could 'pick them out' ;=) We stayed hungry.

 

best,

pat (canada)

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Both my dh and I have decided to always fly 'vegan' from now on - much

safer on the mystery meat thingie. Hey - I like that! - Vegan Airlines.

Sounds so much more positive than its soundalike ;=)

 

Of course, we could always just *be* vegan . . . but it's easier to fail

at being a vegan I think than at being a vegetarian ;=) and I'm not too

big on failure. I'm a *very* successfull vegetarian!

 

best,

pat

 

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Sonds like a very good idea Pat. The more i read about companies

that have let vegetarian consumers down (suh as McD's) the more i

think you can't trust these big companies. In the summer i

travelled from London to Paris on the Eurostar first class (because

my partner's sister can get it cheap), and they serve you a meal on

the train. I let them know in advance i was a vegetarian and from

what i could tell, it was. The thing is, some of the staff acted

like i was causing such a problem. Each course of my meal came out

later than everyone elses - we were at the front of the carriage and

i had to wait til everyone else on the carriage was served first.

Meanwhile everyone else was chomping away.

Mine was brought out at the end and, although it was quite nice it

wasn't even hot. but me being me, i didn't complain.

Anyway, thats enough moaning from me,

 

Laura (uk)

 

, Sant & Brown

<santbrown@l...> wrote:

> Both my dh and I have decided to always fly 'vegan' from now on -

much

> safer on the mystery meat thingie. Hey - I like that! - Vegan

Airlines.

> Sounds so much more positive than its soundalike ;=)

>

> Of course, we could always just *be* vegan . . . but it's easier

to fail

> at being a vegan I think than at being a vegetarian ;=) and I'm

not too

> big on failure. I'm a *very* successfull vegetarian!

>

> best,

> pat

>

> --

> PAT (In London, Ontario)

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> Personal Webpage: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/

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> * " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things,

man

> will not himself find peace. " - Albert Schweitzer

> * " Don't be afraid. Just start the tape. " - Anne Rice

> * " I don't do pawprints. " -- Snoopy

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Well the usual excuse for not giving a vegetarian meal is You Aren't On

Our List. Since you never get to see the list . . . Also, it's a real

trick to get the special meal that you asked for. Asking for vegetarian

I have been offered kosher, diabetic, fish only, etc etc. Once I was

palmed off with a bunch of grapes and a bun and told that was

vegetarian, which of course it was. I've done a lot of flying over the

years, and I find the only thing to do is carry your own - just in case

;=) It's no joke being on a fifteen-hour trans-oceanic flight when

you're Not On Our List.

 

best,

pat

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* " Don't be afraid. Just start the tape. " - Anne Rice

* " I don't do pawprints. " -- Snoopy

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Yeah, these were the height of gross and bland. Basically they gave

everyone

else getting a non-vegan meal a box of Cheerios cereal, milk, banana,

bagel

and cream cheese. Me they gave a cup of luke-warm water, a packet of

instant grits (by the company that makes cream of wheat), a banana, a

bagel

with peanut butter. Now the bagel with banana and PB was enough

really,

but I had to try those grits to see if I had been missing anything

all these

years. Bleh. I bet grits made by your mother would be much better.

 

~ P_T ~

 

In everyone's life, at some time, our inner fire goes out. It is then

burst into

flame by an encounter with another human being. We should all be

thankful

for those people who rekindle the inner spirit.

-Albert Schweitzer, philosopher, physician, and musician (1875-1965)

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, rwhitt1212@a... wrote:

 

> LOL, one must make grits at home with lots of butter! I make mine

with

milk

> and butter but of course I'm lacto ovo. Grits made in many rest.

and

> serviced food places are not exactly on my list of " good food " ! LOL

but I do

> like homemade. Robin in NC

> PS I was born in ILL and never saw them there. My Mother was born

in NC

and

> was well versed in grits.

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On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Sant & Brown wrote:

 

> Both my dh and I have decided to always fly 'vegan' from now on - much

> safer on the mystery meat thingie. Hey - I like that! - Vegan Airlines.

> Sounds so much more positive than its soundalike ;=)

 

*chuckle* And vegan airline food is alot more interesting than omlettes.

 

> Of course, we could always just *be* vegan . . . but it's easier to fail

> at being a vegan I think than at being a vegetarian ;=) and I'm not too

> big on failure. I'm a *very* successfull vegetarian!

 

*grin* that's a point, but you could just try to use/eat vegan options

when they are avilable to you rather than being a devoted vegan if you

don't think you could do that.

 

Regards to the fish,

LisA

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" I think---therefore I'm single... "

-Lizz Winstead

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> but you could just try to use/eat vegan options

> when they are avilable to you rather than being a devoted vegan if you

> don't think you could do that.

>

Well it's more or less what we do - we use soy instead of dairy as often

as possible and we use eggs rarely. Away from home is a different matter

- although again I prefer to avoid eggs, which avoidance started eons

ago when I mistakenly ate an eggy thing in the topics (let's not revisit

*that* error!) ;=) And this year I have banned butter because it is more

tempting than margarine to me personally and I am trying to shed a few

pounds. I think we'd be okay avoiding dairy and eggs in our lives,

except as I say for things not easily controlled, but to be a vegan is

more than that - So I guess for now I'm working towards being an

ovo-avoiding lacto-avoiding ovo-lacto vegetarian ;=) However, I'm not

trying to coin a new category here! ;=)

 

best,

pat

 

PAT (In London, Ontario)

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* " Until he extends the circle of compassion to all living things, man

will not himself find peace. " - Albert Schweitzer

* " Don't be afraid. Just start the tape. " - Anne Rice

* " I don't do pawprints. " -- Snoopy

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, Sant & Brown

<santbrown@l...> wrote:

> Of course, we could always just *be* vegan . . . but it's easier to

fail

> at being a vegan I think than at being a vegetarian ;=) and I'm not

too

> big on failure. I'm a *very* successfull vegetarian!

>

> best,

> pat

>

 

I agree wholeheartedly, pat! I have so many things (housework,

patience...) that I am not very good at that it is pretty nice to

have something like vegetarianism to be pretty good at!

-dawn

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