Atkins Must Diet (OT)

January 20, 2003

One other thought on this. Just because you put something into your body and

you don't have sudden ill effects doesn't mean it's OK or good for you. You

may not feel badly or show signs for a long time but sooner or later it

usually catches up. People fill their bodies with all kinds of things and

then wonder why when they start getting a little older they aren't as healthy

or don't feel as good as they once did. What about all those health problems

people have at younger ages? Sure we can't stay young forever but I think

what you put into your body now counts for a big part of your health later.

January 20, 2003

Hi there,

To the person who said this: " For the record I am

convinced the Atkins low carb diet is dangerous,

stupid, and probably immoral. " ......

Atkins Controlled-carb programme is working for me and

I feel terrific. And, just in case you didn't know,

Dr. Robert Atkins is a cardiologist and has been

following his own eating programme for over 40 years.

This is not to say that this way of eating is for

everyone. We are all different and some have no

problem handling lots of refined carbs, but for those

of us whose bodies can't handle them, this programme

is amazing!

Cheers,

Leslie of the North in freezing and icy Calgary

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January 20, 2003

Maija

I think you've said a mouthful! LOL, Excuse the pun! We have some very

educated and well versed people on the list with good points on both sides of

the issues but those who like me know nothing other than plain and simple

reasoning and nothing about Adkins, Sears or other diets are not at liberty

to elaborate much.

Robin in NC

January 20, 2003

Hi, Robin,

I agree with what you've said about " what we eat, " but I'm not quite sure

what it's saying about Atkins.

Dave

rwhitt1212 [rwhitt1212]

Monday, January 20, 2003 8:06 AM

Re: Atkins Must Diet (OT)

One other thought on this. Just because you put something into your body and

you don't have sudden ill effects doesn't mean it's OK or good for you. You

may not feel badly or show signs for a long time but sooner or later it

usually catches up. People fill their bodies with all kinds of things and

then wonder why when they start getting a little older they aren't as

healthy

or don't feel as good as they once did. What about all those health problems

people have at younger ages? Sure we can't stay young forever but I think

what you put into your body now counts for a big part of your health later.

January 20, 2003

I thought that the Atkins diet put your body into

Ketosis... like being poisoned.. or very ill.. so you

reject digesting things.. and lose weight...

damn, you could do that alot faster with a steady diet

of ecstacy and crystal meth... that'll only take you a

couple weeks to lose all that weight, and at least

you'll feel beautiful instead of fat and lonely

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January 20, 2003

****Keith wrote....

>>I thought that the Atkins diet put your body into

Ketosis... like being poisoned.. or very ill.. so you

reject digesting things.. and lose weight...<<

Ketosis is a natural state of the human body. Here's how it works. When

your body normally gets 3,000 calories a day like most men in the US, and

you decide to cut down to 2,000 calories a day until you lose 20 lbs, then

your body will go into ketosis every day to get the necessary energy from

your stored " fat deposits " to burn for the energy that you are failing to

provide in those 1,000 cals you decided not to eat.

So, the short answer is that **every** diet that reduces calories, induces a

state of ketosis.

Diet (eat less calories) equals ketosis--always has, always will!!!

Ketosis is the basis for the CR (Calorie Reduction) Society and their plan

for human life extension (see, crsociety).

Atkins and his diet program is one of the few diet gurus who tell you the

truth about what's happening in your body, namely ketosis, to get the

desired weight loss.

I don't personally practice the Atkins diet because it seeks goals that I

don't seek for myself. However, trashing Atkins only for the ketosis aspect

of his program is totally inaccurate.

What do you mean by " ...being poisoned " and " ...reject digesting things? "

Dave

January 20, 2003

Oy, a request: I respectfully suggest (request) we stop the high-protein

diet debate--at least for a while. More recipes instead!!!! People

pro-Atkins and pro-Sears can't seem to be convinced of any dangers in their

diets--and vice versa of the low-fat high carb people. I could (and can,

but won't) pull up a multitude of scientifically researched, referenced, and

documented articles debunking high-protein plans and that explain the

dangers of ketosis. These articles are obtained from a vast variety of

unrelated sources, and written by well-respected, credentialed individuals

with a whole buncha acronyms after their names.

BUT I doubt I'd change anyone's mind on this issue, and I completely admit

no one is really going to change mine. Maybe if a person on this list

requests specific advice regarding whatever diet they are trying to follow,

a list member knowledgeable about that particular kind of diet could respond

to them. I get irked about the pro-ketosis posts and I'm sure the protein

people feel exactly the same way about the anti-ketosis posts. We are two

halves of the same coin. Let's all admit we are stubborn on this issue and

both sides have research to back up their opinions.

Respectfully,

Maija

January 20, 2003

Looks to me like this thread is DEAD!!

Josh Billings (the pen name of Henry Wheeler Shaw): " It's not what we don't

know that gets us in trouble. It's what we know that just ain't so. "

Maija.Ray [Maija.Ray]

Monday, January 20, 2003 11:00 AM

RE: Atkins Must Diet (OT)