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Now wait a minute. I was set and ready to go into the

Air Force before my Father died, which was the only

thing that held me back. After that, life took off

and I met hubby, had babies, etc. SO, I never made it

to the military. I was enlisting because it was an

opportunity for me to work, have an education, travel,

meet people, etc. I had dropped out of college and

had no direction. I feel many people enlist for much

the same reason. Others have no place else to go. My

Uncle was 'forced' into the armed forces b/c he was a

punk in school. The judge gave him two choices: the

military or jail.

No one I know that has served in the military (both

parents included) are war hungry, gun toting

individuals ready to fight, fight, fight. Both my

parents served in the Air Force. My Mother was in the

reserves up until the mid 80's.

Please be more careful about what it is you're

accusing people of thinking and doing.

Warmly,

Allison

 

--- " dave <dave4sale " <dave4sale

wrote:

> i can see your point but remember, some of us anti-

> war " peacenik "

> types are against all wars period and therefore the

> armed forces are

> promising to participate in the very thing we are

> against. And it IS

> their fault their fighting, no one made them sign up

> and needing

> money is not a legitimate reason for joining the

> service (unless you

> need the money so you can pay for your grandmother's

> brain operation;

> which i doubt is the case for most soldiers.) dave

>

>

 

 

 

 

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I apologize that i didn't take into account the rare instances

when " juvenille delinquents " are coerced into joining the army.

ditto for the people who truly cannot get a job elsewhere. but i

still standby my opinion as it applies to people with no direction,

because i've been there and the military didnt' even cross my mind.

i didn't accuse everyone who joins the military of being gun-toting,

bloodthirsty freaks (I have a professor who is a vietnam vet

(voluntary) whom i admire a great deal). All I meant to imply is

that it is hard to serve in the military and claim you are " anti-

war " . also the military changes peoples way of thinking their whole

personality. e.g. totally laid back disorganized people can turn

anal retentive.

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My Dad was, up until his death, a very laid back, fun

loving and incredibly disorganized person. (Which is

why I had to spend the next year and mucho dollars in

probate court).

As for my Mother...Oh good god. Anal is definitely

not a word I'd use for her either.

I had a job at the time. I was not a juvenile

delinquent, I just wanted some structure. Nothing

wrong with that. I never have been interested in war.

 

But I do have a healthy respect for the veterans whom

fought in wars. Until you've walked a mile in their

shoes.....

Warmly,

Allison

 

--- " dave <dave4sale " <dave4sale

wrote:

> I apologize that i didn't take into account the rare

> instances

> when " juvenille delinquents " are coerced into

> joining the army.

> ditto for the people who truly cannot get a job

> elsewhere. but i

> still standby my opinion as it applies to people

> with no direction,

> because i've been there and the military didnt' even

> cross my mind.

> i didn't accuse everyone who joins the military of

> being gun-toting,

> bloodthirsty freaks (I have a professor who is a

> vietnam vet

> (voluntary) whom i admire a great deal). All I

> meant to imply is

> that it is hard to serve in the military and claim

> you are " anti-

> war " . also the military changes peoples way of

> thinking their whole

> personality. e.g. totally laid back disorganized

> people can turn

> anal retentive.

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Obviously, " Super Dave " is another DAVE.

 

>>...some of us anti-war " peacenik " types are against all wars period<<

 

Maybe instead of slandering the motives of other people, who you obviously

do not know, you could spend some time just telling us WHY you are a

" peacenik. "

 

Deciding if the military serves a purpose in our complicated world is an

issue which all of us can decide as a group.

 

 

Dave " the other one "

 

PS. The one who was a US Marine and served in the Vietnam War before he

turned 21. The one who also opposes the Iraq War.

 

PPS. I'm not opposed to war. I just pray that we as a society have the

wisdom to find the other alternatives, which usually means putting all the

BS politics aside and acting with peaceful intent years before we need to go

to war.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Allison Nations [allyanne2001]

 

Now wait a minute...No one I know that has served in the military...are war

hungry, gun toting individuals ready to fight, fight, fight...Please be more

careful about what it is you're accusing people of thinking and doing.

 

--- " dave <dave4sale " <dave4sale

> i can see your point but remember, some of us anti-

> war " peacenik "

> types are against all wars period and therefore the

> armed forces are

> promising to participate in the very thing we are

> against. And it IS

> their fault their fighting, no one made them sign up

> and needing

> money is not a legitimate reason for joining the

> service (unless you

> need the money so you can pay for your grandmother's

> brain operation;

> which i doubt is the case for most soldiers.) dave

>

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