Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 I feel I can quite honestly state that I do not look down upon meat eaters, nor think myself on a higher path than them. I live with several meat eaters and they are fine people, indeed. I can only judge myself about this, and do what I feel is right for me. What about you all? Do you feel like that, too? Or do some here think that deep inside they are " better than " those who eat meat? Or how about better than some vegetarians who still eat cheese? Personally, I haven't ever come across a vegetarian who was snooty or judgemental of a meat eater. Maybe I have been fortunate in that regard. I also felt very confident that a group of this nature, that welcomed all people whether vegan, vegetarian, meat abstainers or just folks interested in vegetarian cooking, would work out well and for the benefit of most everyone. The only way to learn more about other ways of living is to ask those who are living differently more about it. ~ feral ~ Words are the soul's ambassadors, who go / Abroad upon her errands to and fro. ~ James Howell, writer (c. 1594-1666) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> , " Mr.Graves " <sleepingtao> wrote: > how many vegetarians smugly eat cheese while judging > those who eat fish, i wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 I love my meat eating husband and my meat eating son;) No, I haven't met anyone that judgemental either. I'd really rather not. I respect my body, and I respect life. That's my choice. I don't expect the rest of the world to mimic me. There are far more important factors to consider when it comes to forging relationships with people than their diet. Warmly, Allison --- " Feral <terebinthus " <terebinthus wrote: > I feel I can quite honestly state that I do not look > down upon meat > eaters, nor > think myself on a higher path than them. I live with > several meat > eaters and > they are fine people, indeed. > > I can only judge myself about this, and do what I > feel is right for > me. What > about you all? Do you feel like that, too? Or do > some here think that > deep > inside they are " better than " those who eat meat? Or > how about better > than > some vegetarians who still eat cheese? > > Personally, I haven't ever come across a vegetarian > who was snooty or > judgemental of a meat eater. Maybe I have been > fortunate in that > regard. I > also felt very confident that a group of this > nature, that welcomed > all people > whether vegan, vegetarian, meat abstainers or just > folks interested > in > vegetarian cooking, would work out well and for the > benefit of most > everyone. > The only way to learn more about other ways of > living is to ask those > who are > living differently more about it. > > ~ feral ~ > > Words are the soul's ambassadors, who go / Abroad > upon her errands to > and fro. > ~ James Howell, writer (c. 1594-1666) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > , > " Mr.Graves " > <sleepingtao> > wrote: > > > how many vegetarians smugly eat cheese while > judging > > those who eat fish, i wonder? > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 I try to be tolerant of meat-eaters. try is the operative word. I still work at mc donalds i am sad to say. mainly because fast food restaurants are the only place that will hire me, given my lack of experience, and a slight criminal record. (i even got turned down for being a server at a veggie restaurant) but i do love my co- workers and i know i am the only vegetarian there. i do not feel i am better than them. i recognize that among other things, many of them are from a poorer (socioeconomic) background than i, have kids, and couldn't afford to be vegetarian. they also just lack knowledge about the health risks of meat and just what goes on in a slaughterhouse (not that you should need to know this to feel it is wrong). however, i must admit that when a customer becomes impatient and says something like " what's the hold up? do you have to kill the cow first? " i can't help but think of that person as cruel. the meat-eaters that really disturb me are the ones that actually believe killing animals for food is wrong but still eat meat. also i am angered when i hear about parents that make their kids eat meat. or when recently, a guy at school told me his girlfriend was a longtime vegetarian but started eating meat because he harrassed her. i wanted to say something to him, (e.g. what makes you think you had the right to do that?) but i didn't want to start a futile confrontation. super dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 oh, ive met several vegetarians and vegans who were quite assured that they were far superior to those who weren't enlightened enough to be on the same path.. kinda sad actually. but they are out there... k --- " Feral <terebinthus " <terebinthus wrote: > I feel I can quite honestly state that I do not look > down upon meat > eaters, nor > think myself on a higher path than them. I live with > several meat > eaters and > they are fine people, indeed. > > I can only judge myself about this, and do what I > feel is right for > me. What > about you all? Do you feel like that, too? Or do > some here think that > deep > inside they are " better than " those who eat meat? Or > how about better > than > some vegetarians who still eat cheese? > > Personally, I haven't ever come across a vegetarian > who was snooty or > judgemental of a meat eater. Maybe I have been > fortunate in that > regard. I > also felt very confident that a group of this > nature, that welcomed > all people > whether vegan, vegetarian, meat abstainers or just > folks interested > in > vegetarian cooking, would work out well and for the > benefit of most > everyone. > The only way to learn more about other ways of > living is to ask those > who are > living differently more about it. > > ~ feral ~ > > Words are the soul's ambassadors, who go / Abroad > upon her errands to > and fro. > ~ James Howell, writer (c. 1594-1666) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > , > " Mr.Graves " > <sleepingtao> > wrote: > > > how many vegetarians smugly eat cheese while > judging > > those who eat fish, i wonder? > > > ===== Where is this beauty? I search and search and then find, We are the lotus. Om Mani Padme Hum Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 Going veg (so to speak) is a personal choice. And it seems to be regarded as such to those vegetarians or vegans that i know. They treat it the same as preferring chocolate to mint flavor. The thing that makes mesad is that lots of meat eaters i know are mainly meat eaters - very very little veggies. I am sad because they won't be as healthy as someone with a more balanced diet. --- " Feral <terebinthus " <terebinthus wrote: > I feel I can quite honestly state that I do not look > down upon meat > eaters, nor > think myself on a higher path than them. I live with > several meat > eaters and > they are fine people, indeed. > > I can only judge myself about this, and do what I > feel is right for > me. What > about you all? Do you feel like that, too? Or do > some here think that > deep > inside they are " better than " those who eat meat? Or > how about better > than > some vegetarians who still eat cheese? > > Personally, I haven't ever come across a vegetarian > who was snooty or > judgemental of a meat eater. Maybe I have been > fortunate in that > regard. I > also felt very confident that a group of this > nature, that welcomed > all people > whether vegan, vegetarian, meat abstainers or just > folks interested > in > vegetarian cooking, would work out well and for the > benefit of most > everyone. > The only way to learn more about other ways of > living is to ask those > who are > living differently more about it. > > ~ feral ~ > > Words are the soul's ambassadors, who go / Abroad > upon her errands to > and fro. > ~ James Howell, writer (c. 1594-1666) ===== Lady Elisa " If I had a world of my own everything would be nonsense. " Alice from Disney's Alice in Wonderland Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 That is really sad. " eat the lawn " ! Also makes me mad how little respect some people have for others! ~Lady Elisa Most of all, I > wish that my kids didn't have to be made fun of. It > is most painful from the father of their friends > next door who calls my sons " the bunny-boys " and > asks the kids if they will " eat the lawn " for him so > he won't have to mow! It often seems that just > being a meat-eater would make life so so much > simpler! LOL > > -Laura ===== Lady Elisa " If I had a world of my own everything would be nonsense. " Alice from Disney's Alice in Wonderland Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 Hmmm...I wonder why someone would speak so accusingly of " someone " not in our group. I'm concerned when such qualities are attributed to " someone " when actually what's being said is really only the " speaker's opinion of that person. " My dad use to say, " Eat your vegetables, the kids in China don't have enough food to eat, and you're wasting it. " He built a straw man to get me to eat what I didn't like. I didn't like it then, and I still don't like it now. It's one thing to speak of others to illustrate how they inspired you to achieve or grow in a particular way. It's quite another to pick an undesirable quality, attribute it to a person, and then bash that " straw man " to make some particular point. Even if the qualities do exist in the person identified, why are they important? That's what's missing here. I ask, " What good is served? " " Do we have enough issues to face as a group without hypothesizing new ones like this? " I've also known people who acted superior or " holier than thou, " the phrase commonly used to describe them. We've all probably known someone like that, but again, I ask, so what?? Keith, I don't mean to bash you either, but I'm scratching my head for what this thread brings to the group. DaveO ps. Here's what works for me. Everyone speaks " only " for themselves and takes responsibility for the " group space " they create. Leave the dreaded " they " out of our dialogue unless you can " clearly identify " who they are. Most of our opinions are based on things we learned elsewhere. Sometimes things change. I want to have a dialogue that explores those things and affects how I make choices about my life in the future. Is this too much to ask? Mr.Graves [sleepingtao] oh, ive met several vegetarians and vegans who were quite assured that they were far superior to those who weren't enlightened enough to be on the same path.. kinda sad actually. but they are out there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 Personally I have never felt " better " than a meat eater and in fact am sometimes rather jealous of them. I wish, sometimes, that I didn't worry so so much about health issues and could pop into McDonald's for a quick burger without mammoth amounts of worry and guilt!! They make it look like so much fun on the commercials, don't they?? I wish that I could pick up any magazine on the rack and have a wealth of great recipes that I didn't have to alter!! We don't " do " milk or eggs so I even have to alter simple cookie recipes!! UGH!!! Most of all, I wish that my kids didn't have to be made fun of. It is most painful from the father of their friends next door who calls my sons " the bunny-boys " and asks the kids if they will " eat the lawn " for him so he won't have to mow! It often seems that just being a meat-eater would make life so so much simpler! LOL -Laura - Feral <terebinthus Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:22 PM Just curious.... I feel I can quite honestly state that I do not look down upon meat eaters, nor think myself on a higher path than them. I live with several meat eaters and they are fine people, indeed. I can only judge myself about this, and do what I feel is right for me. What about you all? Do you feel like that, too? Or do some here think that deep inside they are " better than " those who eat meat? Or how about better than some vegetarians who still eat cheese? Personally, I haven't ever come across a vegetarian who was snooty or judgemental of a meat eater. Maybe I have been fortunate in that regard. I also felt very confident that a group of this nature, that welcomed all people whether vegan, vegetarian, meat abstainers or just folks interested in vegetarian cooking, would work out well and for the benefit of most everyone. The only way to learn more about other ways of living is to ask those who are living differently more about it. ~ feral ~ Words are the soul's ambassadors, who go / Abroad upon her errands to and fro. ~ James Howell, writer (c. 1594-1666) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> , " Mr.Graves " <sleepingtao> wrote: > how many vegetarians smugly eat cheese while judging > those who eat fish, i wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 I don't feel like Im a better person. In my weak moments I'll admit to feeling like I am less 'ignorant' but I try to chalk that up to the naive idealistic refusal to accept anything other than the idea that anyone would become vegetarian if they knew and grasped the reasons why most become vegetarian... tenets like compassion, health and awareness for the environment are things i like to believe everyone would support, if they were shown a good reason why. But I am, in the end, naive. I guess I should say as well, the term ignorant to me.. isnt an insult. Wisdom has always been just a realization of the depth our own ignorances to me, and to call someone ignorant; it's not negative, but i hesitate to do so because our ego driven society is to quick to jump on the defensive the second someone names a fault, even if it is done altruisticaly. We are all ignorant, to a certain degree, I think. SAo admitting that about ourselves makes it easier to admit it about others; it isnt an evil that makes people feel nothing for animals, but simply an ignorance. Thats what I like to believe though. I ate meat for a long time. I justified it to meat eaters. I told vegans they were crazy. Now, I'm a vegan. My friends told me I was crazy, they argued with me, they justified their eating habits opver and over.. and now on their own, they are almost all vegetarians or vegans as well. The only thing that stopped me from being a vegan for so long was my ignorance; I'm still working on that. -rangzen- K > > I feel I can quite honestly state that I do not > look down upon meat > eaters, nor > think myself on a higher path than them. I live > with several meat > eaters and > they are fine people, indeed. > > I can only judge myself about this, and do what I > feel is right for > me. What > about you all? Do you feel like that, too? Or do > some here think that > deep > inside they are " better than " those who eat meat? > Or how about better > than > some vegetarians who still eat cheese? > > Personally, I haven't ever come across a > vegetarian who was snooty or > judgemental of a meat eater. Maybe I have been > fortunate in that > regard. I > also felt very confident that a group of this > nature, that welcomed > all people > whether vegan, vegetarian, meat abstainers or just > folks interested > in > vegetarian cooking, would work out well and for > the benefit of most > everyone. > The only way to learn more about other ways of > living is to ask those > who are > living differently more about it. > > ~ feral ~ > ===== Where is this beauty? I search and search and then find, We are the lotus. Om Mani Padme Hum Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 I basically agree with everything you said. I think a lot of meat- eaters are just " ignorant " to the various reasons one might go veggie. However, some people probably don't care about animal suffering, the environment, or their health. or they flat out deny the problems meat causes. That's a problem, because the meat-eaters that go around and tell people false information (e.g. ideas of " humane slaughter " , nutrients that can only be gotten from animal products, etc.) corrupt the decision-making of people who might otherwise have become vegetarian. if you want to eat meat, you should at least not deny the scientific evidence of the problems meat causes without counter evidence (not found by the meat industry). Sometimes I think vegetarians are generally too tolerant of meat- eaters. I have heard of " vegetarians " who would go so far as to eat meat in order to not " offend " their meat-eating hosts. Vegetarian anorexics in clinics are often force-fed sausage. I know a guy who said a steak restaurant he worked at said he had to eat steak- " you can't be a vegetarian when you work at a steak restaurant " . i could go on and on. But we have to remember not all meat-eaters are like this. some are perfectly tolerant of us veggies and may even admire us. and if we want them to join us, we'll catch more flies with honey than vinegar. , " Mr.Graves " <sleepingtao> wrote: > I don't feel like Im a better person. In my weak > moments I'll admit to feeling like I am less > 'ignorant' but I try to chalk that up to the naive > idealistic refusal to accept anything other than the > idea that anyone would become vegetarian if they knew > and grasped the reasons why most become vegetarian... > tenets like compassion, health and awareness for the > environment are things i like to believe everyone > would support, if they were shown a good reason why. > But I am, in the end, naive. > > I guess I should say as well, the term ignorant to > me.. isnt an insult. Wisdom has always been just a > realization of the depth our own ignorances to me, and > to call someone ignorant; it's not negative, but i > hesitate to do so because our ego driven society is to > quick to jump on the defensive the second someone > names a fault, even if it is done altruisticaly. We > are all ignorant, to a certain degree, I think. SAo > admitting that about ourselves makes it easier to > admit it about others; it isnt an evil that makes > people feel nothing for animals, but simply an > ignorance. Thats what I like to believe though. I ate > meat for a long time. I justified it to meat eaters. I > told vegans they were crazy. Now, I'm a vegan. My > friends told me I was crazy, they argued with me, they > justified their eating habits opver and over.. and now > on their own, they are almost all vegetarians or > vegans as well. The only thing that stopped me from > being a vegan for so long was my ignorance; I'm still > working on that. > > -rangzen- > K > > > > I feel I can quite honestly state that I do not > > look down upon meat > > eaters, nor > > think myself on a higher path than them. I live > > with several meat > > eaters and > > they are fine people, indeed. > > > > I can only judge myself about this, and do what I > > feel is right for > > me. What > > about you all? Do you feel like that, too? Or do > > some here think that > > deep > > inside they are " better than " those who eat meat? > > Or how about better > > than > > some vegetarians who still eat cheese? > > > > Personally, I haven't ever come across a > > vegetarian who was snooty or > > judgemental of a meat eater. Maybe I have been > > fortunate in that > > regard. I > > also felt very confident that a group of this > > nature, that welcomed > > all people > > whether vegan, vegetarian, meat abstainers or just > > folks interested > > in > > vegetarian cooking, would work out well and for > > the benefit of most > > everyone. > > The only way to learn more about other ways of > > living is to ask those > > who are > > living differently more about it. > > > > ~ feral ~ > > > > > ===== > > Where is this beauty? > > I search and search and then find, > > We are the lotus. > > > > Om Mani Padme Hum > > > > > Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2003 Report Share Posted February 4, 2003 OMG! This guy sounds like a real jerk. You poor thing. Oh well, you know you are doing what is right for your family in the long run. Get this, I recently saw an advice column where a girl wrote in to some doctor saying: " My best friend refused to eat any junk food, dairy and no meat at all! What should I do? Does she have an eating disorder? Help! " The crazy thing is this " doctor " said in reply: " You are right to be worried about your friend. Have you noticed drastic weightloss? Maybe tread carefully and tell you you are concerned about her. If she tells you it is none of your business then back off and don't press. Keep an eye out for any mood swings or signs she is depressed and talk to her parents if things get worse. " Worse?! Sheesh, she is probably just a health conscious vegan for kriminie- sakes! *lol* That girl should be appauded for not filling her body with meat and junkfood, IMO. ~ PT ~ You have reached the pinnacle of success as soon as you become uninterested in money, compliments, or publicity. ~Thomas Wolfe, novelist (1900-1938) ~~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> , " Laura Letizia " <lletizia@m...> wrote: Most of all, I wish that my kids didn't have to be made fun of. It is most painful from the father of their friends next door who calls my sons " the bunny-boys " and asks the kids if they will " eat the lawn " for him so he won't have to mow! It often seems that just being a meat-eater would make life so so much simpler! LOL > > -Laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2003 Report Share Posted February 5, 2003 On Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:22:44 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >That is really sad. " eat the lawn " ! >Also makes me mad how little respect some people have >for others! There's an awful lot of hostility to vegetarians floating around - and some from people who I'd have thought would know better. Myself, I don't understand it: I don't know why it exists. Pat -- Pat Meadows CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/ International: http://www.thehungersite.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2003 Report Share Posted February 7, 2003 the reason real meat is so much cheaper is because the government subsidizes it on many levels. (for example, they often sell land to ranchers for far far below what they'd charge a private owner.) also, the government pays some farmers NOT to grow soy. Obviously, knowing this doesn't make your veggie burgers any cheaper but is anyone else ticked off by this? oh by the way, if there is a " Sam's Club " in your area, they sometimes sell vegan Boca burgers in bulk... however you have to pay a yearly membership fee. , " _- MatrixenO -_ " <matrixeno@h...> wrote: > I've always considered veggie substitutes such as the patties, slices and > crumbles pricey compared to the real thing. All the frozen veggie dinners > are also higher priced. > I love health food stores such as Whole Foods, but the trip becomes more of > a browsing trip (to see what's new) as opposed to a hefty shopping one. > > Shawn > > > > > > " If, at first, you do succeed, try to hide your astonishment. " > " If, at first, you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. " > > " The last four letters in " American " spell out " I Can " . " > > " Everything's ok in the end, if it's not ok, it's not the end. " > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > " Laura Letizia " <lletizia@m...> > > > Re: Re: Just curious.... Why are there hostile > meat-eaters? > Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:55:46 -0800 > > I'm not trying to be disrespectful but I'm a little curious. How can you not > afford to be a vegetarian? I find beans, rice and simple veggies to be WAY > cheaper than meat, dairy and eggs!! Have hope!! I know the health- food-store > packaged foods can be expensive but there are many many other ways to go veg > abd save a great deal of money!! > > Take Care, > Laurie > - > Pat Meadows > > Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:44 AM > Re: Re: Just curious.... Why are there > hostile meat-eaters? > > > On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 01:01:13 -0000, you wrote: > > > > > >speaking on that subject at hand and i know i haven't post anything > >since my invite in this club, i know that some meat-eaters don't have > >the drive that u have, not being a hypocrite i eat fish, chicken, and > >turkey, and i was a vegetarian at one time and i love being on a > >vegetarian diet but the reason that i fell on the wayside is that i > >can't afford 2 be 1, if i had a high paying job i would love 2 go > >back 2 my diet, i been on both side of the fence meat-eater and > >vegetarian and i have no problem with the vegetarian cause they r > >easy 2 feed lol, i am not hostile towards any vegetarians at all > >cause i respect their diet and likewise they should respect that i > >eat chicken, fish, and turkey, i don't eat red meat, pork cause its > >against my religion and the doctor said i don't need 2 eat pork, no > >shrimp, lobster etc, so if was invited 2 a vegetarian house 4 dinner > >i have no problem with eat beans and rice, tofu or soy. i hope that i > >don't get thrown out of here cause of my post. i still don't eat alot > >of meat unless a friend of mine buys it and like i said i eat > >chicken, fish with fins and scales, and turkey. i don't look at > >vegetarians as jerks or evil people. by the way daveo what r u having > >4 dinner? lol don't worry i can eat vegetarian dinner at ur house. > > > > I don't think Dave was talking about people like you - I > know I wasn't. > > I don't think you'll be thrown out - I'm not a vegetarian at > the moment either. > > Pat > -- Pat Meadows > CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY > United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/ > International: http://www.thehungersite.com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2003 Report Share Posted February 11, 2003 My Grandfather grew soybeans as crops. Does he get " props " ? Back then I had know idea what they were, but I sure knew how to chop weeds with a hoe. Back and forth and back and forth. My cousins and I were experts. Our rewards...a homeade downhome country lunch and dinner. To cool us off, freshly brewed sun tea and fresh watermelon. Oh yeah, our not-so-rewards...sunburns! sorry fer da ramblings yall, Shawn " If, at first, you do succeed, try to hide your astonishment. " " If, at first, you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. " " The last four letters in " American " spell out " I Can " . " " Everything's ok in the end, if it's not ok, it's not the end. " ----Original Message Follows---- " dave <dave4sale " <dave4sale Re: Just curious.... Fri, 07 Feb 2003 22:58:18 -0000 the reason real meat is so much cheaper is because the government subsidizes it on many levels. (for example, they often sell land to ranchers for far far below what they'd charge a private owner.) also, the government pays some farmers NOT to grow soy. Obviously, knowing this doesn't make your veggie burgers any cheaper but is anyone else ticked off by this? oh by the way, if there is a " Sam's Club " in your area, they sometimes sell vegan Boca burgers in bulk... however you have to pay a yearly membership fee. , " _- MatrixenO -_ " <matrixeno@h...> wrote: > I've always considered veggie substitutes such as the patties, slices and > crumbles pricey compared to the real thing. All the frozen veggie dinners > are also higher priced. > I love health food stores such as Whole Foods, but the trip becomes more of > a browsing trip (to see what's new) as opposed to a hefty shopping one. > > Shawn > > > > > > " If, at first, you do succeed, try to hide your astonishment. " > " If, at first, you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. " > > " The last four letters in " American " spell out " I Can " . " > > " Everything's ok in the end, if it's not ok, it's not the end. " > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > " Laura Letizia " <lletizia@m...> > > > Re: Re: Just curious.... Why are there hostile > meat-eaters? > Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:55:46 -0800 > > I'm not trying to be disrespectful but I'm a little curious. How can you not > afford to be a vegetarian? I find beans, rice and simple veggies to be WAY > cheaper than meat, dairy and eggs!! Have hope!! I know the health- food-store > packaged foods can be expensive but there are many many other ways to go veg > abd save a great deal of money!! > > Take Care, > Laurie > - > Pat Meadows > > Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:44 AM > Re: Re: Just curious.... Why are there > hostile meat-eaters? > > > On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 01:01:13 -0000, you wrote: > > > > > >speaking on that subject at hand and i know i haven't post anything > >since my invite in this club, i know that some meat-eaters don't have > >the drive that u have, not being a hypocrite i eat fish, chicken, and > >turkey, and i was a vegetarian at one time and i love being on a > >vegetarian diet but the reason that i fell on the wayside is that i > >can't afford 2 be 1, if i had a high paying job i would love 2 go > >back 2 my diet, i been on both side of the fence meat-eater and > >vegetarian and i have no problem with the vegetarian cause they r > >easy 2 feed lol, i am not hostile towards any vegetarians at all > >cause i respect their diet and likewise they should respect that i > >eat chicken, fish, and turkey, i don't eat red meat, pork cause its > >against my religion and the doctor said i don't need 2 eat pork, no > >shrimp, lobster etc, so if was invited 2 a vegetarian house 4 dinner > >i have no problem with eat beans and rice, tofu or soy. i hope that i > >don't get thrown out of here cause of my post. i still don't eat alot > >of meat unless a friend of mine buys it and like i said i eat > >chicken, fish with fins and scales, and turkey. i don't look at > >vegetarians as jerks or evil people. by the way daveo what r u having > >4 dinner? lol don't worry i can eat vegetarian dinner at ur house. > > > > I don't think Dave was talking about people like you - I > know I wasn't. > > I don't think you'll be thrown out - I'm not a vegetarian at > the moment either. > > Pat > -- Pat Meadows > CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY > United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/ > International: http://www.thehungersite.com/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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