Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 I like your six degrees of separation analogy, Shawn. and take any intro business class, and i'm sure they'll tell you repeatedly " know your customer " . how could a major corporation manufacture explosive detonation devices and not have the faintest idea who they were going to? bombs, like guns, have one purpose, to kill. according to the all-or-nothing logic SOME of the opposers of gun control, it's just the criminals that are dangerous " Guns don't kill people, people kill people " . obviously if the cambodian government were buying motorola phones and turning them into bombs, it wouldn't be Motorola's fault. I'm also boycotting the company GE, because they manufacture jet fighter engines. My gf actually went to school with a child of the CEO of GE. when she asked him if he knew about it, his only response was, war stimulates the economy! go figure. Does anyone know of any other major companies which manufacture weaponry? , " _- MatrixenO -_ " <matrixeno@h...> wrote: > Hey SuperDave, thanks for the advice. As far as the corps. go, I think of > it as Six degrees of separation. Even if this corp. didn't sell it to them > than they supplied a part or a plan or plain just participated in the > corruption somewhere down the line. > It's amazing how we complain about traffic (even kill each other over it) > everyday, and these people sigh after every step they take. > > And the hands-free set is a good alternative for using the phone even when > not driving. People, just make sure you don't put the phone in your lap! > > Cheers, > Shawn > > > > " If, at first, you do succeed, try to hide your astonishment. " > " If, at first, you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. " > > " The last four letters in " American " spell out " I Can " . " > > " Everything's ok in the end, if it's not ok, it's not the end. " > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > " dave <dave4sale> " <dave4sale> > > > Re: OT - Cell phone opinions? > Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:08:28 -0000 > > I don't own any cell phones and i hope i never do. there is lots of > recent reserach out there which suggests they may increase risk of > brain cancer. if you really *need* a cell phone, make sure you check > the radiation levels- sometimes cell phones come have it listed in > the box, you can ask the salesperson if you can check. otherwise i'm > sure there are websites that will tell you. but i do know motorola > is a BAD company. i saw a recent documentary on land mines in > cambodia / surrounding countries- many of the civilians have been > killed or had limbs blown off by landmines... they live in constant > fear of mines as they search for food and even though there's lots of > people working to disarm them, it will take many years- if new ones > ever stop being planted, that is. one of the critical parts of these > mines is manufactured by motorola. so i personally have strong moral > objections to them. > > as for your p.s. i'm guessing it's a combination. they have > developed models with lower radiation as well as hands free models > which might be safer. but the research is largely inconclusive- cell > phones are still relatively new so it is very hard to know the long > term effects. some of the research was done on mice, which besides > being morally reprehensible, may or may not transalate similarly to > humans. > > hope this of some help, super dave > > , " _- MatrixenO -_ " > <matrixeno@h...> wrote: > > Any of you own a Motorola 120T or C331T? Do you have a favorable > or unfavorable opinion on them? Any comments would be appreciated. > I am trying to choose from these two phones because they are my > favorite price at the moment, free. Thanks all. > > p.s. Whatever happened to all the talk about cell phones and > health concerns? I wonder if better technology have ruled these > issues out, or fat cat corps. have been shelling out some hush money. > > > > Cheers, > > Shawn > > > > > > > > _______________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 dave <dave4sale [dave4sale] >>...I'm also boycotting the company GE, because they manufacture jet fighter engines...<< GE, huh? Let's see they also make TVs, VCRs, phones, refrigerators, light bulbs, locomotives, and toaster ovens to name just a few of 586 consumer products they put their name on. Which of them would you like to live without or pay more for? >>...Does anyone know of any other major companies which manufacture weaponry?<< Will it be only primary manufacturers of weapons, or do you want an extensive list of everybody who ever touched the product, subassembly, circuit board, component, or raw material that went into that weapon? So, how long of a list do you really want? DaveO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 > > GE, huh? > > Let's see they also make TVs, VCRs, phones, refrigerators, light bulbs, locomotives, and toaster ovens to name just a few of 586 consumer products they put their name on. Which of them would you like to live without or pay more for? there are other brands that manufacture these items, probably for cheaper, too. > > > Will it be only primary manufacturers of weapons? yes that would do. unfortunately there are certain industries which are more or less monopolies.. for instance, it would be tough to boycott microsoft if you need to use a computer. but for companies with an alternative, it would be good to boycott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 dave <dave4sale [dave4sale] > [re: a GE boycott] Let's see they also make TVs, VCRs, phones, refrigerators, light bulbs, locomotives, and toaster ovens to name just a few of 586 consumer products they put their name on. Which of them would you like to live without or pay more for? >>there are other brands that manufacture these items, probably for cheaper, too.<< I'll bet that GE with it's vast, deep pockets produces " some products " that no one else does? Did I mention prenatal imaging equipment and GE domes on sports stadiums. Only 576 more to go... > Will it be only primary manufacturers of weapons? >>...unfortunately there are certain industries which are more or less monopolies.. for instance, it would be tough to boycott microsoft if you need to use a computer. but for companies with an alternative, it would be good to boycott.<< Check out " Red Hat " for your next PC operating system. Boy...it's terrible when the " ethics of consumerism " gets in the way of the " ethics of a good boycott. " Don't you just hate that!! DaveO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 > I'll bet that GE with it's vast, deep pockets produces " some products " that > no one else does? Did I mention prenatal imaging equipment and GE domes on sports stadiums. well i hate professional sports and am not planning on procreating any time soon.. but yeah, i get the point. still there's no reason for me to personally buy their products. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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