Guest guest Posted February 12, 2003 Report Share Posted February 12, 2003 Name one. Just one. Anybody? On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 03:34 PM, wrote: > It is a very rare church indeed that encourages its members > to think for themselves in religious matters, or even tolerates > this, and in most of them the clergy are quite ready to lay > down the law in other fields too. > ~ Anne Roe > > Ideals are like clouds. You can chase them, but not catch them. --Bu San Da Ten Shun Monastery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 Quaker ....of which I am one. Pixx On 12 Feb 2003 at 19:06, The Stewarts wrote: > Name one. Just one. > > Anybody? > > > On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 03:34 PM, > wrote: > > > It is a very rare church indeed that encourages its members > > to think for themselves in religious matters, or even tolerates > > this, and in most of them the clergy are quite ready to lay down the > > law in other fields too. ~ Anne Roe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 supposedly quakers are encouraged to freely debate all issues. however, since moving to philadelphia it seems to me they do have dogma to follow as well. , The Stewarts <stews9@c...> wrote: > Name one. Just one. > > Anybody? > > > On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 03:34 PM, > wrote: > > > It is a very rare church indeed that encourages its members > > to think for themselves in religious matters, or even tolerates > > this, and in most of them the clergy are quite ready to lay > > down the law in other fields too. > > ~ Anne Roe > > > > > Ideals are like clouds. You can chase them, but not catch them. > --Bu San Da > Ten Shun Monastery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 i could be wrong, but aren't quakers obligated to be pacifists? (not that that is necessarily a bad thing). the reason i thought that is that a speaker at my school made it sound like her being a quaker automatically meant she must be against all wars. also, is it actually possible to be a quaker if you question the existance of a " higher power " aka God? , " Pixx " <lists@p...> wrote: > Quaker > > ...of which I am one. > > Pixx > > On 12 Feb 2003 at 19:06, The Stewarts wrote: > > > Name one. Just one. > > > > Anybody? > > > > > > On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 03:34 PM, > > wrote: > > > > > It is a very rare church indeed that encourages its members > > > to think for themselves in religious matters, or even tolerates > > > this, and in most of them the clergy are quite ready to lay down the > > > law in other fields too. ~ Anne Roe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 there are many divisions, as in other groups [like baptist]............yes, Orthodox may.........Liberal Friends do not. We are not told how to think or believe. Many liberal Friends Meetings [= " Quaker Church " ] have members who have beliefs outside of Christianity. We *are* basically a pacifist group, who believe in that of The Light [GOD/Spirit/etc] in everyone. But, I firmly believe that you would be hard pressed to find a liberal Meeting that would turn away *anyone* who choose to come to meeting [hmm, unless they were disruptive/rude in meeting] Pixx On 13 Feb 2003 at 15:57, dave dave4sale wrote: > supposedly quakers are encouraged to freely debate all issues. > however, since moving to philadelphia it seems to me they do have > dogma to follow as well. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 hmm then quakers are anti- rude / disruptive people. lol. j/k thank you for clearing that up. , " pixxley <lists@p...> " <lists@p...> wrote: > > there are many divisions, as in other groups [like > baptist]............yes, Orthodox may.........Liberal Friends do not. > > We are not told how to think or believe. Many liberal Friends > Meetings [= " Quaker Church " ] have members who have beliefs > outside of Christianity. > > We *are* basically a pacifist group, who believe in that of The Light > [GOD/Spirit/etc] in everyone. But, I firmly believe that you would > be hard pressed to find a liberal Meeting that would turn away > *anyone* who choose to come to meeting [hmm, unless they were > disruptive/rude in meeting] > > Pixx > > On 13 Feb 2003 at 15:57, dave dave4sale wrote: > > > supposedly quakers are encouraged to freely debate all issues. > > however, since moving to philadelphia it seems to me they do > have > > dogma to follow as well. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 > supposedly quakers are encouraged to freely debate all issues. > however, since moving to philadelphia it seems to me they do have > dogma to follow as well. From what I, an Australian with Quaker tendencies, can gather, there is more than one type of Quakerism in the world. Basically (and there are subgroups within this) there are Liberal Quakers (which is the Quakerism in England and Australia, amongst other places) which is fairly free thinking and so on and there is Orthodox Quakerism which is, to simplify it right down, Methodism by a different name. It was that sort of Quakerism, btw, in which Richard Nixon was raised. > i could be wrong, but aren't quakers obligated to be pacifists? (not that that is necessarily a bad thing). Obligated is not the word I would choose. Everyone has to find their own path. However, Quakers are generally conscientious objectors and pacifism is a testimony with a long history. > the reason i thought that is that a speaker at my school made it sound like her being a quaker automatically meant she must be against all wars. >>> For her, that may certainly be true, but supporting a specific war won't get one kicked out of Meeting. At least, it won't in Australia. > also, is it actually possible to be a quaker if you question the existance of a " higher power " aka God? Hmmm ... why would you want to belong to a religion if you didn't actually believe in God in some form or other? Anyway, it is an interesting question. I wouldn't think that you would be turned away from going to Meeting if you wanted to, but actually becoming a Quaker could be a bit more problematic. One has to explain why one wants to be a Quaker, you see, and what it is to which one is drawn in Quakerism. I wouldn't think that an agnostic would automatically be disqualified from membership, but they would have to make a jolly good case. Lee-Gwen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 For everyone, here is a wonderful site that I have visited many times to find out some basic info about different religions. It also has a fun test where you can find what religion suits your set of beliefs.(again, just a fun thing) I take it every year and delight in how the results have changed. http://www.religioustolerance.org/ ~ PT ~ A stumble may prevent a fall. ~ English Proverb ~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> , " Lady Sappho " < ladysappho@a...> wrote: > From what I, an Australian with Quaker tendencies, can gather, there is more > than one type of Quakerism in the world. Basically (and there are subgroups > within this) there are Liberal Quakers (which is the Quakerism in England > and Australia, amongst other places) which is fairly free thinking and so on > and there is Orthodox Quakerism which is, to simplify it right down, > Methodism by a different name. It was that sort of Quakerism, btw, in which > Richard Nixon was raised. > Lee-Gwen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 I can name a few. --- The Stewarts <stews9 wrote: > Name one. Just one. > > Anybody? > > > On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 03:34 PM, > wrote: > > > It is a very rare church indeed that encourages > its members > > to think for themselves in religious matters, or > even tolerates > > this, and in most of them the clergy are quite > ready to lay > > down the law in other fields too. > > ~ Anne Roe > > > > > Ideals are like clouds. You can chase them, but not > catch them. > --Bu San Da > Ten Shun Monastery > > > ===== Lady Elisa " If I had a world of my own everything would be nonsense. " Alice from Disney's Alice in Wonderland Send Flowers for Valentine's Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 the churches i have gone to want you to question and come to conclusions thru your pondering. --- " dave <dave4sale " <dave4sale wrote: > i could be wrong, but aren't quakers obligated to be > pacifists? (not > that that is necessarily a bad thing). the reason i > thought that is > that a speaker at my school made it sound like her > being a quaker > automatically meant she must be against all wars. > also, is it > actually possible to be a quaker if you question the > existance of > a " higher power " aka God? > > > , " Pixx " > <lists@p...> wrote: > > Quaker > > > > ...of which I am one. > > > > Pixx > > > > On 12 Feb 2003 at 19:06, The Stewarts wrote: > > > > > Name one. Just one. > > > > > > Anybody? > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 03:34 PM, > > > wrote: > > > > > > > It is a very rare church indeed that > encourages its members > > > > to think for themselves in religious matters, > or even tolerates > > > > this, and in most of them the clergy are quite > ready to lay > down the > > > > law in other fields too. ~ Anne Roe > > ===== Lady Elisa " If I had a world of my own everything would be nonsense. " Alice from Disney's Alice in Wonderland Send Flowers for Valentine's Day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2003 Report Share Posted February 13, 2003 LOL! quite the contrary, actually. Many are involved in what others may consider rude or disruptive activity in order to promote the betterment of whatever cause. Much like some vegetarian in a 'burger joint' might do. <wink> Pixx On 13 Feb 2003 at 21:20, dave dave4sale wrote: > hmm then quakers are anti- rude / disruptive people. lol. j/k thank > you for clearing that up. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2003 Report Share Posted February 14, 2003 Here is another one of those tests........ http://belief.net/story/76/story_7665_1.html May even be the same one, if I remember correctly. Belief.net actually has quite a few tests Pixx On 14 Feb 2003 at 3:13, ~ P_T ~ patchouli_troll@ wrote: > For everyone, here is a wonderful site that I have visited > many times to find out some basic info about different > religions. It also has a fun test where you can find what > religion suits your set of beliefs.(again, just a fun thing) > I take it every year and delight in how the results have > changed. > > http://www.religioustolerance.org/ > > ~ PT ~ == http://pixxart.com the Art of Living in Health, Peace, & Light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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