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Autumn,

 

Clearly, statistics is not about self-delusion, it's an extremely powerful

extension of mathematics.

 

I suggest a person of the right mind can take any of society's ideas,

achievements, or even it's language and slander them totally into oblivion

while offering little more than a " cutely parsed phrase " to justify the

self-serving pronouncement.

 

Not exactly my idea of useful or helpful dialogue.

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

 

Autumn [ck72198]

 

My previous post should have read the other 5% that they are not sure of.

Have a great day. Autumn Autumn <ck72198 wrote: No, according to

my Research Methods Professor, statistics only gives you a 95% probability

that something is true, that means that there is still the other 5% that

they are sure of thus, the + or - 3% for marginal error. Autumn The

 

 

Stewarts wrote:

 

Statistics is a form of self-delusion, no kidding.

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DaveO

Suit your self, as for me I am not one that fights which is why I usually stay

clear of the conversation on this group because no matter what you post it is

usually torn apart and make into something it is not. The recipes are the only

thing on this list that is usually not flammable and sometimes even that isn't

so.

With all that is going on in the world I do not really care what interatctions

go on, on this list. I am sorry that you took the stance about my post as you

did but to each their own. The good thing about living in the U.S. is we are all

free to have our own opinions and as I have allways been told they are a dime a

dozen and we each have one.

Sorry my topic wasn't to your liking but that's what makes the world go around

our individually there are some topics that you post that I don't care about

either but so be it. Life goes on at least for know. In my race (Native

American) we only sweat the big stuff the rest will take care of it's self.

Have a great day.

Autumn

daveo <daveo wrote:

Autumn,

 

Clearly, statistics is not about self-delusion, it's an extremely powerful

extension of mathematics.

 

I suggest a person of the right mind can take any of society's ideas,

achievements, or even it's language and slander them totally into oblivion

while offering little more than a " cutely parsed phrase " to justify the

self-serving pronouncement.

 

Not exactly my idea of useful or helpful dialogue.

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

 

Autumn [ck72198]

 

My previous post should have read the other 5% that they are not sure of.

Have a great day. Autumn Autumn wrote: No, according to

my Research Methods Professor, statistics only gives you a 95% probability

that something is true, that means that there is still the other 5% that

they are sure of thus, the + or - 3% for marginal error. Autumn The

 

 

Stewarts wrote:

 

Statistics is a form of self-delusion, no kidding.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Autumn, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

My comments did not refer to either you or your post about statistics. I

attempted to be supportive of your point of view, which I agree with, and I

referred only to a confusing post which we both responded to.

 

You and I exchanged a number of positive emails in the past and I see no

reason to change any of that because of this. If this misunderstanding has

upset you, please accept my public apology.

 

My preference is also for less conflict in the group, and I try to avoid it

by asking useful questions rather than attacking someone personally. The

knowledge contained within this group is vast, and tapping into it offers

rewards to all of us.

 

The process of bringing it out is not always easy. Recent " dustups " have

not been pleasant either to watch and to be a part of. I see it much like

growing a garden. There's lots of hard works in the beginning, and then you

eventally get the wonderful fruits and veggies to enjoy. We have that image

waiting before us.

 

You have a great day too, Autumn,

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

Autumn [ck72198]

 

DaveO

Suit your self, as for me I am not one that fights which is why I usually

stay clear of the conversation on this group because no matter what you post

it is usually torn apart and make into something it is not. The recipes are

the only thing on this list that is usually not flammable and sometimes even

that isn't so.

 

With all that is going on in the world I do not really care what

interatctions go on, on this list. I am sorry that you took the stance about

my post as you did but to each their own. The good thing about living in the

U.S. is we are all free to have our own opinions and as I have allways been

told they are a dime a dozen and we each have one. Sorry my topic wasn't to

your liking but that's what makes the world go around our individually there

are some topics that you post that I don't care about either but so be it.

Life goes on at least for know. In my race (Native American) we only sweat

the big stuff the rest will take care of it's self. Have a great day. Autumn

 

 

 

daveo <daveo wrote:

 

Autumn,

 

Clearly, statistics is not about self-delusion, it's an extremely powerful

extension of mathematics.

 

I suggest a person of the right mind can take any of society's ideas,

achievements, or even it's language and slander them totally into oblivion

while offering little more than a " cutely parsed phrase " to justify the

self-serving pronouncement.

 

Not exactly my idea of useful or helpful dialogue.

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

 

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DaveO

Your apology is accept and I am also sorry for the misunderstanding between.

Yes, we have some exchanged some positive emails before and I hope also do not

see why this should change. It is so hard to know what is in one's heart when

all we can see is words on an email, it makes for alot of misunderstandings as

we can not show inflectons and such and that so makes a difference in our words.

Yes, I was also confused by the post and was trying to make light of a situation

as their has been so much hostility on the list as of late.

Again I accept your apology and am very glad that this was just a

misunderstanding and nothing more.

Thanks, and have a great weekend.

Autumn

daveo <daveo wrote:Autumn, I'm sorry for the

misunderstanding.

 

My comments did not refer to either you or your post about statistics. I

attempted to be supportive of your point of view, which I agree with, and I

referred only to a confusing post which we both responded to.

 

You and I exchanged a number of positive emails in the past and I see no

reason to change any of that because of this. If this misunderstanding has

upset you, please accept my public apology.

 

My preference is also for less conflict in the group, and I try to avoid it

by asking useful questions rather than attacking someone personally. The

knowledge contained within this group is vast, and tapping into it offers

rewards to all of us.

 

The process of bringing it out is not always easy. Recent " dustups " have

not been pleasant either to watch and to be a part of. I see it much like

growing a garden. There's lots of hard works in the beginning, and then you

eventally get the wonderful fruits and veggies to enjoy. We have that image

waiting before us.

 

You have a great day too, Autumn,

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

Autumn [ck72198]

 

DaveO

Suit your self, as for me I am not one that fights which is why I usually

stay clear of the conversation on this group because no matter what you post

it is usually torn apart and make into something it is not. The recipes are

the only thing on this list that is usually not flammable and sometimes even

that isn't so.

 

With all that is going on in the world I do not really care what

interatctions go on, on this list. I am sorry that you took the stance about

my post as you did but to each their own. The good thing about living in the

U.S. is we are all free to have our own opinions and as I have allways been

told they are a dime a dozen and we each have one. Sorry my topic wasn't to

your liking but that's what makes the world go around our individually there

are some topics that you post that I don't care about either but so be it.

Life goes on at least for know. In my race (Native American) we only sweat

the big stuff the rest will take care of it's self. Have a great day. Autumn

 

 

 

daveo wrote:

 

Autumn,

 

Clearly, statistics is not about self-delusion, it's an extremely powerful

extension of mathematics.

 

I suggest a person of the right mind can take any of society's ideas,

achievements, or even it's language and slander them totally into oblivion

while offering little more than a " cutely parsed phrase " to justify the

self-serving pronouncement.

 

Not exactly my idea of useful or helpful dialogue.

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

 

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" It is so hard to know what is in one's heart when all we can see is words

on an email, it makes for alot of misunderstandings as we can not show

inflectons and such and that so makes a difference in our words. "

 

Let's develop a keyboard that can express our emotions and tones through our

typing. The keyboard will have sensors that record how fast and how hard we

type. There will be a color chart with several shades.

 

Red (angry)

color

color

Yellow (happy)

color

color

Blue (sad)

 

Maybe even depressed somewhere in there.

Harder and faster typing will result in a red font. Average will result in

yellow etc. etc.

Of course there are always variables. We can personalize the program.

Perhaps you are a faster typer or maybe you type faster and harder when you

are happy instead of mad. It's all adjustable and we make millions.

 

Shawn

 

p.s. Ummm...hmmm..What color should express boredom? :) LOL.

 

" I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I hoped it could be. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

" It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----Original Message Follows----

Autumn <ck72198

 

 

RE: Statistics

Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:17:00 -0800 (PST)

 

 

DaveO

Your apology is accept and I am also sorry for the misunderstanding between.

Yes, we have some exchanged some positive emails before and I hope also do

not see why this should change. It is so hard to know what is in one's heart

when all we can see is words on an email, it makes for alot of

misunderstandings as we can not show inflectons and such and that so makes a

difference in our words. Yes, I was also confused by the post and was trying

to make light of a situation as their has been so much hostility on the list

as of late.

Again I accept your apology and am very glad that this was just a

misunderstanding and nothing more.

Thanks, and have a great weekend.

Autumn

daveo <daveo wrote:Autumn, I'm sorry for the

misunderstanding.

 

My comments did not refer to either you or your post about statistics. I

attempted to be supportive of your point of view, which I agree with, and I

referred only to a confusing post which we both responded to.

 

You and I exchanged a number of positive emails in the past and I see no

reason to change any of that because of this. If this misunderstanding has

upset you, please accept my public apology.

 

My preference is also for less conflict in the group, and I try to avoid it

by asking useful questions rather than attacking someone personally. The

knowledge contained within this group is vast, and tapping into it offers

rewards to all of us.

 

The process of bringing it out is not always easy. Recent " dustups " have

not been pleasant either to watch and to be a part of. I see it much like

growing a garden. There's lots of hard works in the beginning, and then you

eventally get the wonderful fruits and veggies to enjoy. We have that image

waiting before us.

 

You have a great day too, Autumn,

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

Autumn [ck72198]

 

DaveO

Suit your self, as for me I am not one that fights which is why I usually

stay clear of the conversation on this group because no matter what you post

it is usually torn apart and make into something it is not. The recipes are

the only thing on this list that is usually not flammable and sometimes even

that isn't so.

 

With all that is going on in the world I do not really care what

interatctions go on, on this list. I am sorry that you took the stance about

my post as you did but to each their own. The good thing about living in the

U.S. is we are all free to have our own opinions and as I have allways been

told they are a dime a dozen and we each have one. Sorry my topic wasn't to

your liking but that's what makes the world go around our individually there

are some topics that you post that I don't care about either but so be it.

Life goes on at least for know. In my race (Native American) we only sweat

the big stuff the rest will take care of it's self. Have a great day. Autumn

 

 

 

daveo wrote:

 

Autumn,

 

Clearly, statistics is not about self-delusion, it's an extremely powerful

extension of mathematics.

 

I suggest a person of the right mind can take any of society's ideas,

achievements, or even it's language and slander them totally into oblivion

while offering little more than a " cutely parsed phrase " to justify the

self-serving pronouncement.

 

Not exactly my idea of useful or helpful dialogue.

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

 

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Boredom, let's see, black, teal, pink, green, orange maybe, or how about majenta

or better yet since this is a vegetarian group why don't we use fruits and

veggies as symbols of our feelings?

 

Autumn

 

 

_- MatrixenO -_ <matrixeno wrote: " It is so hard to know what is in

one's heart when all we can see is words

on an email, it makes for alot of misunderstandings as we can not show

inflectons and such and that so makes a difference in our words. "

 

Let's develop a keyboard that can express our emotions and tones through our

typing. The keyboard will have sensors that record how fast and how hard we

type. There will be a color chart with several shades.

 

Red (angry)

color

color

Yellow (happy)

color

color

Blue (sad)

 

Maybe even depressed somewhere in there.

Harder and faster typing will result in a red font. Average will result in

yellow etc. etc.

Of course there are always variables. We can personalize the program.

Perhaps you are a faster typer or maybe you type faster and harder when you

are happy instead of mad. It's all adjustable and we make millions.

 

Shawn

 

p.s. Ummm...hmmm..What color should express boredom? :) LOL.

 

" I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I hoped it could be. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

" It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----Original Message Follows----

Autumn

 

 

RE: Statistics

Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:17:00 -0800 (PST)

 

 

DaveO

Your apology is accept and I am also sorry for the misunderstanding between.

Yes, we have some exchanged some positive emails before and I hope also do

not see why this should change. It is so hard to know what is in one's heart

when all we can see is words on an email, it makes for alot of

misunderstandings as we can not show inflectons and such and that so makes a

difference in our words. Yes, I was also confused by the post and was trying

to make light of a situation as their has been so much hostility on the list

as of late.

Again I accept your apology and am very glad that this was just a

misunderstanding and nothing more.

Thanks, and have a great weekend.

Autumn

daveo wrote:Autumn, I'm sorry for the

misunderstanding.

 

My comments did not refer to either you or your post about statistics. I

attempted to be supportive of your point of view, which I agree with, and I

referred only to a confusing post which we both responded to.

 

You and I exchanged a number of positive emails in the past and I see no

reason to change any of that because of this. If this misunderstanding has

upset you, please accept my public apology.

 

My preference is also for less conflict in the group, and I try to avoid it

by asking useful questions rather than attacking someone personally. The

knowledge contained within this group is vast, and tapping into it offers

rewards to all of us.

 

The process of bringing it out is not always easy. Recent " dustups " have

not been pleasant either to watch and to be a part of. I see it much like

growing a garden. There's lots of hard works in the beginning, and then you

eventally get the wonderful fruits and veggies to enjoy. We have that image

waiting before us.

 

You have a great day too, Autumn,

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

Autumn [ck72198]

 

DaveO

Suit your self, as for me I am not one that fights which is why I usually

stay clear of the conversation on this group because no matter what you post

it is usually torn apart and make into something it is not. The recipes are

the only thing on this list that is usually not flammable and sometimes even

that isn't so.

 

With all that is going on in the world I do not really care what

interatctions go on, on this list. I am sorry that you took the stance about

my post as you did but to each their own. The good thing about living in the

U.S. is we are all free to have our own opinions and as I have allways been

told they are a dime a dozen and we each have one. Sorry my topic wasn't to

your liking but that's what makes the world go around our individually there

are some topics that you post that I don't care about either but so be it.

Life goes on at least for know. In my race (Native American) we only sweat

the big stuff the rest will take care of it's self. Have a great day. Autumn

 

 

 

daveo wrote:

 

Autumn,

 

Clearly, statistics is not about self-delusion, it's an extremely powerful

extension of mathematics.

 

I suggest a person of the right mind can take any of society's ideas,

achievements, or even it's language and slander them totally into oblivion

while offering little more than a " cutely parsed phrase " to justify the

self-serving pronouncement.

 

Not exactly my idea of useful or helpful dialogue.

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

 

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" since this is a vegetarian group why don't we use fruits and veggies as

symbols of our feelings? "

 

That would be a very interesting little font. Why don't we just say red =

apple orange = orange blue = blueberries etc. etc.

Agreed? Yes agreed.

 

Oh sorry...to make my LAST post and this post ON TOPIC..The other night I

had a bowl of mixed chopped fruit. It consisted of chopped pineapple, green

melon, cantaloupe, strawberries, red grapes, watermelon and kiwi fruit. It

was very very cold. The best part was the mixed juice that was left in the

bottom of the bowl.

 

Planning on chopping some more this weekend.

 

Cheerio,

Shawn

 

 

 

" I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I hoped it could be. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

" It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----Original Message Follows----

Autumn <ck72198

 

 

RE: Statistics

Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:43:59 -0800 (PST)

 

 

Boredom, let's see, black, teal, pink, green, orange maybe, or how about

majenta or better yet since this is a vegetarian group why don't we use

fruits and veggies as symbols of our feelings?

 

Autumn

 

 

_- MatrixenO -_ <matrixeno wrote: " It is so hard to know what

is in one's heart when all we can see is words

on an email, it makes for alot of misunderstandings as we can not show

inflectons and such and that so makes a difference in our words. "

 

Let's develop a keyboard that can express our emotions and tones through our

typing. The keyboard will have sensors that record how fast and how hard we

type. There will be a color chart with several shades.

 

Red (angry)

color

color

Yellow (happy)

color

color

Blue (sad)

 

Maybe even depressed somewhere in there.

Harder and faster typing will result in a red font. Average will result in

yellow etc. etc.

Of course there are always variables. We can personalize the program.

Perhaps you are a faster typer or maybe you type faster and harder when you

are happy instead of mad. It's all adjustable and we make millions.

 

Shawn

 

p.s. Ummm...hmmm..What color should express boredom? :) LOL.

 

" I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I hoped it could be. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

" It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----Original Message Follows----

Autumn

 

 

RE: Statistics

Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:17:00 -0800 (PST)

 

 

DaveO

Your apology is accept and I am also sorry for the misunderstanding between.

Yes, we have some exchanged some positive emails before and I hope also do

not see why this should change. It is so hard to know what is in one's heart

when all we can see is words on an email, it makes for alot of

misunderstandings as we can not show inflectons and such and that so makes a

difference in our words. Yes, I was also confused by the post and was trying

to make light of a situation as their has been so much hostility on the list

as of late.

Again I accept your apology and am very glad that this was just a

misunderstanding and nothing more.

Thanks, and have a great weekend.

Autumn

daveo wrote:Autumn, I'm sorry for the

misunderstanding.

 

My comments did not refer to either you or your post about statistics. I

attempted to be supportive of your point of view, which I agree with, and I

referred only to a confusing post which we both responded to.

 

You and I exchanged a number of positive emails in the past and I see no

reason to change any of that because of this. If this misunderstanding has

upset you, please accept my public apology.

 

My preference is also for less conflict in the group, and I try to avoid it

by asking useful questions rather than attacking someone personally. The

knowledge contained within this group is vast, and tapping into it offers

rewards to all of us.

 

The process of bringing it out is not always easy. Recent " dustups " have

not been pleasant either to watch and to be a part of. I see it much like

growing a garden. There's lots of hard works in the beginning, and then you

eventally get the wonderful fruits and veggies to enjoy. We have that image

waiting before us.

 

You have a great day too, Autumn,

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

Autumn [ck72198]

 

DaveO

Suit your self, as for me I am not one that fights which is why I usually

stay clear of the conversation on this group because no matter what you post

it is usually torn apart and make into something it is not. The recipes are

the only thing on this list that is usually not flammable and sometimes even

that isn't so.

 

With all that is going on in the world I do not really care what

interatctions go on, on this list. I am sorry that you took the stance about

my post as you did but to each their own. The good thing about living in the

U.S. is we are all free to have our own opinions and as I have allways been

told they are a dime a dozen and we each have one. Sorry my topic wasn't to

your liking but that's what makes the world go around our individually there

are some topics that you post that I don't care about either but so be it.

Life goes on at least for know. In my race (Native American) we only sweat

the big stuff the rest will take care of it's self. Have a great day. Autumn

 

 

 

daveo wrote:

 

Autumn,

 

Clearly, statistics is not about self-delusion, it's an extremely powerful

extension of mathematics.

 

I suggest a person of the right mind can take any of society's ideas,

achievements, or even it's language and slander them totally into oblivion

while offering little more than a " cutely parsed phrase " to justify the

self-serving pronouncement.

 

Not exactly my idea of useful or helpful dialogue.

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

 

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Didn't do the fruit thing but id the veggie thing, my daughter and I love to

have a pizza ocassionaly but the store bought ones do not meet our requirements,

meaning good chunky veggies so we deceided to make our own. We first bought a

crust at the supermarket, garlic, onions, spinach, green peppers, fresh roma

tomatos, and a spagetti sauce (not a pizza sauce) and cheese, all I can say is

wow we cut our veggies chunck size added plenty of garlic, dried oregeno, dried

italian seasoning and it was dynamite.

Ok, I agree with the color for the different color fruits, sounds great to me.

Autumn

_- MatrixenO -_ <matrixeno wrote: " since this is a vegetarian group

why don't we use fruits and veggies as

symbols of our feelings? "

 

That would be a very interesting little font. Why don't we just say red =

apple orange = orange blue = blueberries etc. etc.

Agreed? Yes agreed.

 

Oh sorry...to make my LAST post and this post ON TOPIC..The other night I

had a bowl of mixed chopped fruit. It consisted of chopped pineapple, green

melon, cantaloupe, strawberries, red grapes, watermelon and kiwi fruit. It

was very very cold. The best part was the mixed juice that was left in the

bottom of the bowl.

 

Planning on chopping some more this weekend.

 

Cheerio,

Shawn

 

 

 

" I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I hoped it could be. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

" It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----Original Message Follows----

Autumn

 

 

RE: Statistics

Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:43:59 -0800 (PST)

 

 

Boredom, let's see, black, teal, pink, green, orange maybe, or how about

majenta or better yet since this is a vegetarian group why don't we use

fruits and veggies as symbols of our feelings?

 

Autumn

 

 

_- MatrixenO -_ wrote: " It is so hard to know what

is in one's heart when all we can see is words

on an email, it makes for alot of misunderstandings as we can not show

inflectons and such and that so makes a difference in our words. "

 

Let's develop a keyboard that can express our emotions and tones through our

typing. The keyboard will have sensors that record how fast and how hard we

type. There will be a color chart with several shades.

 

Red (angry)

color

color

Yellow (happy)

color

color

Blue (sad)

 

Maybe even depressed somewhere in there.

Harder and faster typing will result in a red font. Average will result in

yellow etc. etc.

Of course there are always variables. We can personalize the program.

Perhaps you are a faster typer or maybe you type faster and harder when you

are happy instead of mad. It's all adjustable and we make millions.

 

Shawn

 

p.s. Ummm...hmmm..What color should express boredom? :) LOL.

 

" I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I hoped it could be. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

" It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----Original Message Follows----

Autumn

 

 

RE: Statistics

Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:17:00 -0800 (PST)

 

 

DaveO

Your apology is accept and I am also sorry for the misunderstanding between.

Yes, we have some exchanged some positive emails before and I hope also do

not see why this should change. It is so hard to know what is in one's heart

when all we can see is words on an email, it makes for alot of

misunderstandings as we can not show inflectons and such and that so makes a

difference in our words. Yes, I was also confused by the post and was trying

to make light of a situation as their has been so much hostility on the list

as of late.

Again I accept your apology and am very glad that this was just a

misunderstanding and nothing more.

Thanks, and have a great weekend.

Autumn

daveo wrote:Autumn, I'm sorry for the

misunderstanding.

 

My comments did not refer to either you or your post about statistics. I

attempted to be supportive of your point of view, which I agree with, and I

referred only to a confusing post which we both responded to.

 

You and I exchanged a number of positive emails in the past and I see no

reason to change any of that because of this. If this misunderstanding has

upset you, please accept my public apology.

 

My preference is also for less conflict in the group, and I try to avoid it

by asking useful questions rather than attacking someone personally. The

knowledge contained within this group is vast, and tapping into it offers

rewards to all of us.

 

The process of bringing it out is not always easy. Recent " dustups " have

not been pleasant either to watch and to be a part of. I see it much like

growing a garden. There's lots of hard works in the beginning, and then you

eventally get the wonderful fruits and veggies to enjoy. We have that image

waiting before us.

 

You have a great day too, Autumn,

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

Autumn [ck72198]

 

DaveO

Suit your self, as for me I am not one that fights which is why I usually

stay clear of the conversation on this group because no matter what you post

it is usually torn apart and make into something it is not. The recipes are

the only thing on this list that is usually not flammable and sometimes even

that isn't so.

 

With all that is going on in the world I do not really care what

interatctions go on, on this list. I am sorry that you took the stance about

my post as you did but to each their own. The good thing about living in the

U.S. is we are all free to have our own opinions and as I have allways been

told they are a dime a dozen and we each have one. Sorry my topic wasn't to

your liking but that's what makes the world go around our individually there

are some topics that you post that I don't care about either but so be it.

Life goes on at least for know. In my race (Native American) we only sweat

the big stuff the rest will take care of it's self. Have a great day. Autumn

 

 

 

daveo wrote:

 

Autumn,

 

Clearly, statistics is not about self-delusion, it's an extremely powerful

extension of mathematics.

 

I suggest a person of the right mind can take any of society's ideas,

achievements, or even it's language and slander them totally into oblivion

while offering little more than a " cutely parsed phrase " to justify the

self-serving pronouncement.

 

Not exactly my idea of useful or helpful dialogue.

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

 

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On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, _- MatrixenO -_ wrote:

 

> " since this is a vegetarian group why don't we use fruits and veggies as

> symbols of our feelings? "

>

> Oh sorry...to make my LAST post and this post ON TOPIC..The other night I

> had a bowl of mixed chopped fruit. It consisted of chopped pineapple, green

> melon, cantaloupe, strawberries, red grapes, watermelon and kiwi fruit. It

> was very very cold. The best part was the mixed juice that was left in the

> bottom of the bowl.

 

Hmmm fruit salad, does that suggest you were all confused on how you were

feeling?? ;)

 

Regards to the fish,

LisA

 

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" Hmmm fruit salad, does that suggest you were all confused on how you were

feeling?? ;)

 

Regards to the fish,

LisA "

 

Haha, I suppose so. I plan on being confused either today or tomorrow as

well, depending on when I get to the store. LOL.

 

Remembering the fishys,

Shawn

 

 

 

 

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RE: Statistics

Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:42:15 +0800 (WST)

 

On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, _- MatrixenO -_ wrote:

 

> " since this is a vegetarian group why don't we use fruits and veggies as

> symbols of our feelings? "

>

> Oh sorry...to make my LAST post and this post ON TOPIC..The other night I

> had a bowl of mixed chopped fruit. It consisted of chopped pineapple,

green

> melon, cantaloupe, strawberries, red grapes, watermelon and kiwi fruit.

It

> was very very cold. The best part was the mixed juice that was left in

the

> bottom of the bowl.

 

Hmmm fruit salad, does that suggest you were all confused on how you were

feeling?? ;)

 

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LisA

 

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Autumn, LOL, that sounds really really good. Good choices with the garlic

and ROMA tomatoes. I made a homemade pizza awhile back. I used my pizza

stone and made homemade pizza dough. It puffed up like crazy in the oven.

Luckily my mistake turned out to be delightful.

 

Pan pizza cheese lovers with mushrooms, onions and jalapenos (up to 3

toppings) from Pizza Hut. That was a staple a few years ago. Gotta have

the jalps. I've started to experiment with black olives as well. Yum.

 

Cheers,

Shawn

 

 

 

" I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I hoped it could be. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

" It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Autumn <ck72198

 

 

RE: Statistics

Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:00:30 -0800 (PST)

 

 

Didn't do the fruit thing but id the veggie thing, my daughter and I love to

have a pizza ocassionaly but the store bought ones do not meet our

requirements, meaning good chunky veggies so we deceided to make our own. We

first bought a crust at the supermarket, garlic, onions, spinach, green

peppers, fresh roma tomatos, and a spagetti sauce (not a pizza sauce) and

cheese, all I can say is wow we cut our veggies chunck size added plenty of

garlic, dried oregeno, dried italian seasoning and it was dynamite.

Ok, I agree with the color for the different color fruits, sounds great to

me.

Autumn

_- MatrixenO -_ <matrixeno wrote: " since this is a vegetarian

group why don't we use fruits and veggies as

symbols of our feelings? "

 

That would be a very interesting little font. Why don't we just say red =

apple orange = orange blue = blueberries etc. etc.

Agreed? Yes agreed.

 

Oh sorry...to make my LAST post and this post ON TOPIC..The other night I

had a bowl of mixed chopped fruit. It consisted of chopped pineapple, green

melon, cantaloupe, strawberries, red grapes, watermelon and kiwi fruit. It

was very very cold. The best part was the mixed juice that was left in the

bottom of the bowl.

 

Planning on chopping some more this weekend.

 

Cheerio,

Shawn

 

 

 

" I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I hoped it could be. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

" It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----Original Message Follows----

Autumn

 

 

RE: Statistics

Fri, 21 Feb 2003 16:43:59 -0800 (PST)

 

 

Boredom, let's see, black, teal, pink, green, orange maybe, or how about

majenta or better yet since this is a vegetarian group why don't we use

fruits and veggies as symbols of our feelings?

 

Autumn

 

 

_- MatrixenO -_ wrote: " It is so hard to know what

is in one's heart when all we can see is words

on an email, it makes for alot of misunderstandings as we can not show

inflectons and such and that so makes a difference in our words. "

 

Let's develop a keyboard that can express our emotions and tones through our

typing. The keyboard will have sensors that record how fast and how hard we

type. There will be a color chart with several shades.

 

Red (angry)

color

color

Yellow (happy)

color

color

Blue (sad)

 

Maybe even depressed somewhere in there.

Harder and faster typing will result in a red font. Average will result in

yellow etc. etc.

Of course there are always variables. We can personalize the program.

Perhaps you are a faster typer or maybe you type faster and harder when you

are happy instead of mad. It's all adjustable and we make millions.

 

Shawn

 

p.s. Ummm...hmmm..What color should express boredom? :) LOL.

 

" I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I hoped it could be. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

" It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

----Original Message Follows----

Autumn

 

 

RE: Statistics

Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:17:00 -0800 (PST)

 

 

DaveO

Your apology is accept and I am also sorry for the misunderstanding between.

Yes, we have some exchanged some positive emails before and I hope also do

not see why this should change. It is so hard to know what is in one's heart

when all we can see is words on an email, it makes for alot of

misunderstandings as we can not show inflectons and such and that so makes a

difference in our words. Yes, I was also confused by the post and was trying

to make light of a situation as their has been so much hostility on the list

as of late.

Again I accept your apology and am very glad that this was just a

misunderstanding and nothing more.

Thanks, and have a great weekend.

Autumn

daveo wrote:Autumn, I'm sorry for the

misunderstanding.

 

My comments did not refer to either you or your post about statistics. I

attempted to be supportive of your point of view, which I agree with, and I

referred only to a confusing post which we both responded to.

 

You and I exchanged a number of positive emails in the past and I see no

reason to change any of that because of this. If this misunderstanding has

upset you, please accept my public apology.

 

My preference is also for less conflict in the group, and I try to avoid it

by asking useful questions rather than attacking someone personally. The

knowledge contained within this group is vast, and tapping into it offers

rewards to all of us.

 

The process of bringing it out is not always easy. Recent " dustups " have

not been pleasant either to watch and to be a part of. I see it much like

growing a garden. There's lots of hard works in the beginning, and then you

eventally get the wonderful fruits and veggies to enjoy. We have that image

waiting before us.

 

You have a great day too, Autumn,

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

Autumn [ck72198]

 

DaveO

Suit your self, as for me I am not one that fights which is why I usually

stay clear of the conversation on this group because no matter what you post

it is usually torn apart and make into something it is not. The recipes are

the only thing on this list that is usually not flammable and sometimes even

that isn't so.

 

With all that is going on in the world I do not really care what

interatctions go on, on this list. I am sorry that you took the stance about

my post as you did but to each their own. The good thing about living in the

U.S. is we are all free to have our own opinions and as I have allways been

told they are a dime a dozen and we each have one. Sorry my topic wasn't to

your liking but that's what makes the world go around our individually there

are some topics that you post that I don't care about either but so be it.

Life goes on at least for know. In my race (Native American) we only sweat

the big stuff the rest will take care of it's self. Have a great day. Autumn

 

 

 

daveo wrote:

 

Autumn,

 

Clearly, statistics is not about self-delusion, it's an extremely powerful

extension of mathematics.

 

I suggest a person of the right mind can take any of society's ideas,

achievements, or even it's language and slander them totally into oblivion

while offering little more than a " cutely parsed phrase " to justify the

self-serving pronouncement.

 

Not exactly my idea of useful or helpful dialogue.

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

 

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Sounds interesting...will you be posting that " delightful " recipe?

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

_- MatrixenO -_ [matrixeno]

 

Autumn, LOL, that sounds really really good. Good choices with the garlic

and ROMA tomatoes. I made a homemade pizza awhile back. I used my pizza

stone and made homemade pizza dough. It puffed up like crazy in the oven.

Luckily my mistake turned out to be delightful.

 

Pan pizza cheese lovers with mushrooms, onions and jalapenos (up to 3

toppings) from Pizza Hut. That was a staple a few years ago. Gotta have

the jalps. I've started to experiment with black olives as well. Yum.

 

Cheers,

Shawn

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DaveO, unfortunately I don't remember which dough recipe I used. I just

faintly remember the malformed dough shape and how good it tasted. I do

have a couple of pizza ckbks if you ever need a pizza or dough recipe (New

York, Chicago, basic, wholewheat styles).

 

Take care,

Shawn

 

 

 

" I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything that I hoped it could be. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

" It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care. "

Peter Gibbons - Office Space

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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" daveo " <daveo

 

 

RE: Statistics

Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:57:08 -0800

 

 

Sounds interesting...will you be posting that " delightful " recipe?

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

_- MatrixenO -_ [matrixeno]

 

Autumn, LOL, that sounds really really good. Good choices with the garlic

and ROMA tomatoes. I made a homemade pizza awhile back. I used my pizza

stone and made homemade pizza dough. It puffed up like crazy in the oven.

Luckily my mistake turned out to be delightful.

 

Pan pizza cheese lovers with mushrooms, onions and jalapenos (up to 3

toppings) from Pizza Hut. That was a staple a few years ago. Gotta have

the jalps. I've started to experiment with black olives as well. Yum.

 

Cheers,

Shawn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Okay, I guess I'll just stick with my Boboli Italian pizza crust based

pizza. They go from the freezer to the serving plate in about 30 minutes.

 

DaveO

 

 

 

 

_- MatrixenO -_ [matrixeno]

 

DaveO, unfortunately I don't remember which dough recipe I used. I just

faintly remember the malformed dough shape and how good it tasted. I do

have a couple of pizza ckbks if you ever need a pizza or dough recipe (New

York, Chicago, basic, wholewheat styles).

 

Take care,

Shawn

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