Guest guest Posted November 12, 2000 Report Share Posted November 12, 2000 Thank you very much for the information on pressed tofu. I had no earthly idea what it was. Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2003 Report Share Posted April 4, 2003 Did you all know that Democratic Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich from Ohio is a vegan??? From his website www.kucinich.us : " He not only believes in sustainability, he practices it. Congressman Kucinich is one of the few vegans in Congress, a dietary decision he credits not only with improving his health, but in deepening his belief in the sacredness of all species. In the 106th Congress, his call for labeling and safety testing of all genetically engineered foods provoked a $50 million advertising campaign by the biotech industry. " You can also read about his stances on various issues on his website. www.kucinich.us/issues I couldn't imagine a vegan/vegetarian president! wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2003 Report Share Posted April 5, 2003 , Sheryl Arndt <ssarndt> wrote: > > Did you all know that Democratic Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich from Ohio is a vegan??? :-) Yes! (Ohio voter here) He already has my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 No problem, Pat! I totally understand. When I hear of Atkins or South Beach, I go "ew" inside, too. I am just bringing it up because it will help us dispel some of the myths that one has to eat meat to stay slim! For example, I just read that Drew Barrymore is eating meat now. She is proud of it and says that her veggie diet was too "carbohydrate rich" that made her fat. I'd like to be able to counter that claim saying that one can eat lower carbohydrates without upping one's glycemic index on a vegan diet. How can we unless we speak their language and address their concerns? We can't until we learn about them. I don't like guessing others intentions but I also read in another article that she stopped being veg because she "just didn't' want to limit herself anymore". If that is the case, well, she has her right...I just didn't want her to blame her diet change on health reasons when it was really because she just wanted to eat meat again. Oh, by the way, the other day I had vegan sushi....how rare is that? It was fantastic! Kristina wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 Oh *lol* I see where you're coming from!! Of course. And you make excellent points. Sorry to have been so dim. Feeling better today, thinking better today, etc. etc. ;=) Bless you for your patience!! Best love, Pat >No problem, Pat! I totally understand. When I hear of Atkins or South >Beach, I go " ew " inside, too. I am just bringing it up because it will >help us dispel some of the myths that one has to eat meat to stay slim! > >For example, I just read that Drew Barrymore is eating meat now. She is >proud of it and says that her veggie diet was too " carbohydrate rich " that >made her fat. I'd like to be able to counter that claim saying that one >can eat lower carbohydrates without upping one's glycemic index on a vegan >diet. How can we unless we speak their language and address their >concerns? We can't until we learn about them. > >I don't like guessing others intentions but I also read in another article >that she stopped being veg because she " just didn't' want to limit herself >anymore " . If that is the case, well, she has her right...I just didn't >want her to blame her diet change on health reasons when it was really >because she just wanted to eat meat again. > >Oh, by the way, the other day I had vegan sushi....how rare is that? It >was fantastic! > >Kristina > > > > > > > > wrote: > >There is 1 message in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > >1. Re: Vegan Atkins diet > " psybermus " > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 1 >Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:22:43 -0000 > " psybermus " >Re: Vegan Atkins diet > >Sorry! Was I being closed minded in recommending a balanced diet? I think >I= > >said that it did indeed seem possible to 'do' Atk*ns (love that spelling >of= >the >name - so indulge me!) as a vegetarian but that I thought it was too bad >th= >at >the web page advocated cutting back on some veggies (which would be >unbalanced as a diet) in order to stay within the carb lilmit. I also find= >, by the >way, as do you, that I feel better after a good mix of veg with tofu (as >yo= >u give >as example) than on a plate of spaghetti - but of course just spag and a >ve= >g/ >tomato sauce isn't too well balanced either ;=) > >As I said, I am not trying to start a controversy here - honestly not >*lol*= >And if I >sounded rather emphatic, please put it down to the mood I am in these days >= > >on the little blue pills I have to take to cope with the extreme back pain >= >after >my recent accident. It makes me into a Jekyll-Hyde kinda gal - well, not >qu= >ite, >but you get the picture ;=) > >It's good to keep an open mind about things until you have checked them >out= > >or others who are in the know have checked them out. I agree. Atk*ns, >however, usually comes up with a negative judgment. In the case of Megan's >= > >suggestion, however, I don't see that it would hurt to try the veggie vers= >ion for >a short time and see how you get along ;=) She's obviously looked >carefully= > >into it and I would certainly trust her view. > >Me, I've looked into it too - but I'm not a nutritionist, dietician, or >med= >ical >practitioner :=( > >Best of luck - no harm intended in my last post. > >Chat later? > >Best, > >Pat ;=) > , Soliel >wrote: > > Hi there > > > > Can I say something about this topic? I am a vegetarian all the >way...he= >art >and soul. I have been veg for 18 years and plan to stay on it the rest of = >my >life. I do not eat meat because I can't stand how the animals suffer...als= >o can't >stand the other ethical issues (environment, loss of family farms, waste >of= > >food, etc. etc.). I also LOVE my veganish diet. I love beans, whole grai= >ns and >veggies. I also have similiar feelings about Atkins that many veggie's do.= >I >don't think the Atkins diet is healthy in the long run, I don't think it >br= >ings >overall wellness and I think it's not a very thoughtful or spiritual diet. > > > > HOWEVER, I still don't discount everything he said. I am still open to >possible small truths of this diet. I disagree that our protein should com= >e from >animals and I disagree that that squash and other carbohydrate veggies are >= > >bad for you...but I do think there is a couple of truths, that I have >found= > >personally, to be true about the lower carbohydrate diets. I have found th= >at if I >eat more protein (in the form of beans, of course!) and sometimes fat I am >= > >satiated longer which alllows me to eat less. Sometimes ALOT less. The >other truth I have found is that too much of carbohydrates (such as bread >a= >nd >squash) as compared to greens and protein is not a balanced meal and is >not= > >too healthy. Don't get me wrong... I LOVE my brown rice and I LOVE >bread....but I have found that too much carbos not mixed in with other >kind= >s of >foods is not healthy. I have noticed a distinct difference in how I feel = >if I eat, >let's say, a green salad with tofu chunks as opposed to a pasta > > lunch...I've noticed a BIG difference. My energy does go down and I jus= >t >don't feel the same well-being. And wheat...I just don't do well with >wheat...even though I love bread. > > > > Do we have to be so close minded? I don't think it helps our cause to >to= >tally >deny everything the other diet gurus say. Also, I think we should support = >a >low carbohydrate vegan diet for those who need it. It can't hurt. It may = >bring >more people to the vegan/vegetarian diet which would do wonders in our >world. > > > > Kristina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Wed, 21 Apr 2004 09:13:57 -0400 > > > " Patricia Sant " > > > RE: for those of you wondering about > > > vegan-atkins diet > > > > > > How nice of you to invite us (is that it?) to your > > > list - I don't recall > > > discussion of Atk*ns diets on Vegetarian Slimming > > > lately, although there was > > > some chat about it (mostly against it) some time > > > ago. I think we all > > > understand that Atk*ns is probably not the best way > > > to go, but indeed it > > > does seem possible to 'do' a form of the Atk*ns > > > diet as a veggie - although > > > cutting back on fruits and vegetables to stay within > > > the carbohydrage limit > > > sounds kinda counterproductive. On Vegetarian > > > Slimming we rather believe in > > > a balanced and healthy way of eating and Atk*ns is a > > > name I usually avoid. I > > > am not meaning to begin a controversy, however - but > > > then I didn't raise the > > > subject either!!! *lol* > > > > > > Best of luck with your list ;=) I know how dedicated > > > you are to the > > > vegetarian lifestyle, and it is nice to know that a > > > list is in the hands of > > > those who really care. > > > > > > Chat later! > > > > > > Best love, > > > > > > Pat ;=) > > > > > > > " Megan Milligan " > > > > > > > >To: > > > > >CC: > > > >,< > >,< > >,< > >, > > > > for those of you > > > wondering about vegan-atkins > > > >diet > > > >Tue, 20 Apr 2004 14:21:50 -0700 > > > > > > > >I'm now moderating a vegetarian weightloss group on > > > ediets.com, and some > > > >have asked about the Atkins' diet on a > > > vegetarian/vegan diet on the aktin's > > > >plan. i don't know much about the atkin's diet in > > > detail, but with a few > > > >modification's it sounds like, at least for > > > lacto-ovo's, it is possible to > > > >modify the atkins' diet to your own specifications. > > > > > > > >http://www.ehow.com/how_8646_dr-atkins-diet.html > > > > > > > >Megan Milligan > > > >yasminduran@c... > > > >Desert Rose Musings > > > (http://www.desertrosemusings.com) (some parts under > > > > > > >construction) > > > >Cal Neva Animal Rescue > > > >(http://www.desertrosemusings.com/calnevarescue/index.htm) > > > (under > > > >construction) > > > > > > > > " Kheperi kheper kheperu kheper ki em kheperu en > > > Kheperi kheper. " > > > > " When I became, the becoming became. I became > > > being, becoming form, being > > > >Khepri. " > > > > > > >__________ >_____ > > > MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses > > > and 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca & page=byoa/prem & xAPID=1994 & >DI=1034 & SU=http://hotmail.com/enca & HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________ >____________ > > > >__________ >____________ > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----= >- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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