Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 I didn't include this egroup since it wasn't a recipe but here's the info I had in my paper: Laura Schauble <schaubleveg-NJ <veg-nj; Veg-NY <veg-nyc; New Jersey Animal Rights Alliance <njaraFriday, May 04, 2001 8:34 PMMcDonald's suit There was an article in yesterday's paper saying that McDonald's Corp has been accused in a lawsuit of using beef fat in the preparation of french fries, despite saying a decade ago that it would cook its fries in pure vegetable oil. The lawsuit was filed Tuesday on behalf of two Hindus who don't eat meat and one non-Hindu vegetarian. Attorney Harish Bharti requested the case be certified as a class action on behalf of vegetarians who ate McDonald's fries after 1990 in the belief that they contained no meat. The lawsuit says McDonald's used beef tallow in the cooking process, disguising it as "natural flavor". The fast-food chain said in a statement yesterday that it never claimed fries sold in the United States were vegetarian. McDonalds said it adds a small amount of beef extract, but it said no beef or pork flavorings are used in vegetarian menu items in India and other countries where such meat is shunned for religious reasons. Any ideas on what we can do to help this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 - Laura Schauble Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:54 PM Fw: McDonald's suit Any ideas on what we can do to help this? I wrote to them. I know one little email won't change anything, but it can't hurt. Here's the link for McD's info: http://www.mcdonalds.com/countries/usa/corporate/info/contacts/comments/food/index.html And here's the link for the "contact us" page: http://www.mcdonalds.com/countries/usa/corporate/info/contacts/comments/usrestaurant/index.html Pass 'em on to fellow veggie-heads. ~Cyn contact owner: -owner Mail list: Delivered-mailing list List-Un: - no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowedcontact owner with complaints regarding posting/list or anything else. Thank you.please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 To whom it may concer, It is obvious that McD's famous fries are good for a reason, as a child I love them too. I don't think it is fair to ask them to change their way of cooking just because some of us don't eat beef. What about the rest of the satisfied customers that's plenty happy of what they are getting. If you really can't stand it, just don't go to McD's why not bake your own fries at home. It is pretty scary that we would sue at a drop of a hat, what is this world coming to? *hint, if you can taste fat, then pretty much it has fat... pretty simple. > " Cindy Vela " <cynergy > > >Re: Fw: McDonald's suit >Sat, 5 May 2001 19:09:19 -0500 > > > - > Laura Schauble > > Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:54 PM > Fw: McDonald's suit > > > Any ideas on what we can do to help this? > > I wrote to them. I know one little email won't change anything, but it >can't hurt. > Here's the link for McD's info: > >http://www.mcdonalds.com/countries/usa/corporate/info/contacts/comments/food/in\ dex.html > And here's the link for the " contact us " page: > >http://www.mcdonalds.com/countries/usa/corporate/info/contacts/comments/usresta\ urant/index.html > Pass 'em on to fellow veggie-heads. > > ~Cyn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 I thought this would be interesting. After writing my concern s to McDonalds, I wandered into this site, where McDonaldsg ets their information on " humane slaughter " (how those two words mix I have no idea.) You can check this out on www.meatami.com. Icopiedthis directly from the site. This is what we are folks, according to the meat industry. (Is Redbook qualified to do scientific studies?) From www.meatami.com: Despite the many strong beliefs held by vegetarians, a _(year)__ survey by Vegetarian Times Magazine, self-proclaimed vegetarians eat only __ less meat, poultry and fish than do proclaimed carnivores. A recent Roper Poll conducted for the Vegetarian Resource Group showed that although between three and seven percent of Americans consider themselves to be vegetarians, those shunning meat, fish and poultry is between .3 and one percent of Americans. The American Dietetic Association has said that while a vegetarian diet can be healthy, vegetarians, and especially vegans, must be vigilant in balancing their diets. Vegetarian diets for growing children and pregnant women require special levels of attention to ensure that nutrition deficiencies do not result. The Surgeon General has affirmed the important role that lean meat plays in the diet and has recommended two to three, three-ounce servings per day. (this is me breaking in here, ahem...WHAT!!! Per DAY!!!) To quote a 1993 Redbook article, nutritionally speaking, " Meat packs a wallop. " It provides abundant amounts of crucial vitamins and minerals, including B vitamins, iron and zinc. While many plants are rich in vitamins and minerals, their resources are not readily absorbed by the body like they are from meat. Meat and poultry also are important for children. According to Helen Bishop McDonald, R.D., a nutritional consultant and lecturer at the University of Calgary, children over two should get two to three servings of protein foods per day. " Kids' stomachs are so small it can be hard for them to eat enough to get all the vitamins and minerals they require. That's why they need nutrient-dense foods like meat. " (Redbook, March 1993). This is me again, I copied this as well. here it iss traight from the source. Fact Sheet: Products Derived From Animals Few people comprehend the important role that animal by-products play in their daily lives. In addition to being a major source of good nutrition for 98 percent of Americans, cattle, hogs and sheep by-products contribute to many commonly used products. Medical and Social Benefits of Cattle Adrenal Glands: Epinephrine is used to relieve some symptoms of hay fever, asthma and someallergies. It is also used as a heart stimulant in some crisis situations, and by dentists to prolong the effect of local anesthetics. Blood: Thrombin form cattle blood helps blood clotting, and is valuable in treating wounds to inaccessible parts of the body. It is also used in skin grafting. Pancreas: Perhaps the best known contribution, insulin derived form cattle pancreas, is used to treat diabetes. Glucagon helps counteract insulin shock. Medical benefits derived from cattle by-products include rennet, epinephrine, thrombin, insulin, heparin, TSH, ACTH, cholesterol, estrogen, and thyroid extract. Other product contributions using cattle by-products include tires, leather, surgical sutures, soaps, brushes, buttons, and cosmetics. Medical and Social Benefits of Swine Heart: Valves from young to full grown hogs are used in valve replacement surgery in humans, from infancy to old age. They are in some cases superior to mechanical valves because they don't stick and do not need the same level of anti-coagulant infusion. In the last 12 years, 250,000 lives have been saved through implantation of swine heart valves. Skin: Due to its similarity human skin, pigskin is used to treat massive burns and large accidental skin removal. Gelatin is used for capsules and pills. Medical products from hog production include cortisone, norepinephrine, plasmin, blood fibrin, heart valves, estrogen, relaxin, insulin, burn dressings, pepsin and oxytocin. Other product contributions using swine by-products include glue, fertilizer, floor wax, matches, crayons/chalk, rubber, and fabric printing and dying. Source: Animal Industry Foundation, October 1991. from, titi _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2001 Report Share Posted May 6, 2001 In a message dated 5/7/01 12:20:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, island_girl_01 writes: << It is obvious that McD's famous fries are good for a reason, as a child I love them too. I don't think it is fair to ask them to change their way of cooking just because some of us don't eat beef. What about the rest of the satisfied customers that's plenty happy of what they are getting. >> That's not the problem. The problem is that they lied about changing the recipe. the gothic princess<kendy> -------------------------- The gothic lolita fashion list: http://www.topica.com/lists/GothicLolita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2001 Report Share Posted May 7, 2001 You are right what is not fair is that they misled people. I am veg and have eaten their fries here in Qatar, Middle East. But I never detected any 'odd' flavour. Could any of you detect it? McDonalds in India have denied using any beef flavoring or fat at all in their product offering in India stating that what is served in India is different from what is served in the rest of the world. Incidentally McD do not serve beef in India in deference to the Hindu sentiments. Maya > > > That's not the problem. The problem is that they lied about changing the > recipe. > > > > the gothic princess<kendy> > -------------------------- > The gothic lolita fashion list: > http://www.topica.com/lists/GothicLolita > > > contact owner: -owner > Mail list: > Delivered-mailing list > List-Un: - > > no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed > contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list > or anything else. Thank you. > please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2001 Report Share Posted May 7, 2001 I do remember when McD announced, and heavily marketed, that they were switching their oils. I do not really remember them ever claiming they were totally vegetarian. Did they in fact ever claim that? Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2001 Report Share Posted May 7, 2001 All this about McD's. . . well, we can't eat there because my son is allergic to corn and their oil has corn in it, and everything else has something he's allergic to. I don't think there's a single fast food restaurant that doesn't have corn, wheat or vinegar in everything. We only know of one restaurant we can eat at. The thing that is interesting to me is that the phrase "natural flavoring" can contain anything from a living source. I'm sure you all know that one "natural" red food coloring is made from a cockroach shell. Most "natural flavorings" contain corn products, because corn is cheap, so anything for us that has "natural" is usually a red flag that it is inedible for us! There is a bill in congress RIGHT NOW to require manufacturers to state the source of their "natural flavors." I don't have the bill number with me right now, but if you go to their website you can find it. This is a great time to get active about this and make them accountable for all of us who can't eat certain things and want some control over what we put in our bodies! Don't complain, do something about it! Lauren - Maya Rao Monday, May 07, 2001 4:33 AM Re: Fw: McDonald's suit You are right what is not fair is that they misled people. I am veg and haveeaten their fries here in Qatar, Middle East. But I never detected any 'odd'flavour. Could any of you detect it?McDonalds in India have denied using any beef flavoring or fat at all intheir product offering in India stating that what is served in India isdifferent from what is served in the rest of the world. Incidentally McD donot serve beef in India in deference to the Hindu sentiments.Maya>>> That's not the problem. The problem is that they lied about changing the> recipe.>>>> the gothic princess<kendy>> --------------------------> The gothic lolita fashion list:> http://www.topica.com/lists/GothicLolita>>> contact owner: -owner > Mail list: > Delivered-mailing list > List-Un: - >> no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed> contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list> or anything else. Thank you.> please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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