Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 I use soy in mine too. - brent Monday, July 30, 2001 8:43 PM RE: for your friends still dragging their heels Jacqueline, I wish I could find it at the grocery store; so far I've only found the kind I use at the healthfood grocery store and it is expensive ($5.99). I put fat free soy milk in mine. Next time I'm in Wally World I'll look for the kind you mentioned. Blessings, Karla B. Jacqueline [jacq]Monday, July 30, 2001 6:10 PM Subject: Re: for your friends still dragging their heels Karla, This is good info for people who can't have caffeine, like me. I have Meniere's Disease and it is severely aggravated by caffeine or too much salt. I make coffee, cappuchino & iced cappuchino using Caf Lib. I buy it at the grocery store or at Walmart. It is an instant roasted grain beverage with chicory. It tastes great with maple syrup as a sweetener (so does coffee). Jacquelinecontact owner: -owner Mail list: Delivered-mailing list List-Un: - no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowedcontact owner with complaints regarding posting/list or anything else. Thank you.please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Reading this stuff breaks my heart..but it re-inforces my choice to not eat meat. I am considering sending it to all the meat eaters I know. Not sure how to approach it. > " Mary " <vanoravanora > > >Re: for your friends still dragging their heels >Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:25:06 -0700 > >why not? >I'm glad to have the information. Glad to pass it on to my less >compasionate friends >Just hit the delete button. > >It's easy, really > >------------------------------- >~*Mary*~ >Founder of " The Nuzzled Network " >www.nuzzled.net > > - > Tina Murray > > Sunday, July 29, 2001 2:25 PM > Re: for your friends still dragging their >heels > > > I don't care to see this. I don't this that this is what this thread >should be used for. > Tina - Calif > > louise2326 wrote: > > > -ONLINE VIDEO AND AUDIO > you might want to see an online video and audio of animals > being slaughtered > http://www.wickedwendys.com right hand column.. meet your meat > http://www.meatstinks.com > ACTOR JAMES CROMWELL, STAR OF BABE, PERFORMS CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE > AND IS ARRESTED AT WENDY'S > http://www.meatstinks.com > http://www.wickedwendys.com HAS A VIDEO WITH AUDIO > OF ANIMALS > BEING SLAUGHTERED (right hand column.. click on > meet your meat > http://clubs./clubs/ohioanimalrightsnetwork (see photos) > /messages/boycottwendys > > WHAT'S IN YOUR WENDY'S BURGER? > BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS > > . THE BLOOD one drinks is called juice > . THE PRE URINE is uric acid or trixoypurine.. > more addictive than caffein and is the > primary cause of arthritis as it crystallizes > into needles jabbing the joints > . THE FECES poured out by frightened terrorized > animals has traces > in the ecoli or colon bacteria.. not only their > own waste but > that of other cows on which they often slip > as they are being skinned alive at Iowa Beef > Processors or other sites. Dr John Harvey > Kellogg, MD, affiliated > in the last century with Kellogg cereals, found > that after > a few hours ecoli can multiply into the billions. > FLY DUNG (the dung of the cows is not the only > waste which > splatters onto the carcass > . THE FEMALE HORMONES given the cows > become prostate, breast, and uterine cancer > as well as nonreproductive cancers. Gynecomastia > is male breast > swelling from such hormones, which increase > sexual pressure > and are correlated also to rape. In Puerto Rico 2 > year old children > have developed sexually > from these hormones. IMPOTENCE is also a > byproduct as > male testosterone level is reduced. A 2nd cause > of impotence > is animal fat blockage in prostate arteries. > . THE ADRENALIN (TEARS) secreted by terrorized > animals survives > cooking.. since it is a protein enzyme.. only some > of whose links are > broken.. it is the ingestion of anger, terror, and > agony. Such > meat adrenalin has been correlated to violence. > /messages/teachnonviolence > . THE ANTIBIOTIC RESISTANCE in the animal's flesh > is passed onto the humans devouring them > . THE ANIMAL FAT clogs the arteries causing heart > attacks, which are > the single major cause of death in the world. Meat > deaths per year outdo > alcohol, tobacco, and accidents combined. > strokes, SENILITY from cerebral artery blockage. > . THE MAD COW* proteins can incubate for 50 > years says the World Health Organization's > communicable disease > division. (Gelatin containing Mad Cow is found in > jello, gelcaps, > soaps, toothpastes, soups etc. > THE BENZOPYRENE, a carcinogen, > applies only when meat > is burned on the grill > . in addition to the WASTE secreted by the cow is > the waste fed to > the cow.. > it is legal to give up to 50% waste in cattle > food.. this is > called > wastelage > . THE PRIONS cause cancer (recent Nobel Prize > given to SF researcher re prions) > . AIDS Dr Anthony Fauci, animal abuser at NIH, > stated at a press > conference that monkey meat consumption was one > cause of AIDS. > While cows' meat is not monkey meat, it does > contain BLV > or bovine leukemia virus, the same disease as the > HTLV > with only a name change. > . THE SODIUM NITRATE.. red dye no. 2.. forms > nitrosamines in contact with animal protein. > These nitrosamines are carcinogenic. In addition > are many > other carcinogenic FOOD COLORING AGENTS > . PRESERVATIVES which keep meat from rotting.. also > turn your body into a wax mummy > . MEAT TENDERIZERS which break down animal flesh.. > also break > down your brain's necessary cellular proteins > . THE METHYLCHOLANTHRENE AND MALANALDEHYDE are 2 > carcinogens > created by heating animal flesh and fat above 300 > degrees > while the ecoli is caused by just the opposite: > undercooking. > . MERCURY at toxic levels is in much of the world's > water. Fish > are at the top of the ocean food chain, while meat > is at the > top of the land food chain. Mercury harms brain > function. > . POLYCHLORINATED BIPHENOLS are found even in the > livers of > polar bears. They are a byproduct of the lumber > (treekilling) > industry as well as of GE and other transformers. > They harm > brain function. > . ARSENIC a poison > . CHROMIUM a poison expelled by some steel > manufacturers > http://www.cec.org > . MONONUCLEOSIS Like AIDS whose meat eating origins > have been > obscured, mononucleosis was called the kissing > disease when > it reality this immune depression disease was more > frequently > caused by rare meat. > . INSECTICIDES in the grain such as Roundup by > Monsanto > are concentrated in the milk and the meat of the > animals. > Each avg. weight 1000 lb. cow ate 21,000 lbs. > average before > being forced to the slaughterhouse. As fish are at > the top > of the ocean food chain, animal products are at the > top of > the Mother Earth food chain, concentrating many > times more > insecticides than non organic fruits and vegetables. > NAMES OF FOOD POISONING DISEASES > . brucellosis, ptomaine, salmonella, > toxoplasmosis, and many other food poisoning > viruses, bacteriae > WORMS (in the bacon) are called trichinella and lead > to > trichinosis. > > (* NIH is finally > after decades readying to put meat on the list of > carcinogens) > . What's creiophilic bacteria? What's thermophilic > bacteria? Creiophilic bacteria survives > freezing in the pieces of animal called meat. > Thermophilic bacteria survives 300 degrees. > http://www.madcowboy.com http://www.pcrm.org > http://www.meatstinks.com http://www.ivu.org > http://www.vrg.org > http://www.mcspotlight.org > http://www.murderking.com > http://www.acorn.net/fruitarian > http://www.veganoutreach.org > http://www.hacres.com http://www.jesusveg.com > http://www.islamveg.com > WHAT ELSE? > . the sounds of trees being felled The cattle > industry is one > of the 3 greatest pressures on the world's > forests. > . the cries of hungry children Meat yields 100 to > 1000 lbs an > acre, while fruit and nut tree products can yield > 450,000 lbs > or more if the trees are allowed to grow. > . the pain of cancer, heart disease, food > poisoning, arthritis, > kidney disease, and all the other diseases > associated with > the consumption of animal flesh > (Ironically, while the adrenalin enzymes > make people angry, the female hormones make > the men nicer) > WHAT'S IN CHEESE > http://www.notmilk.com > Mastitis or infections of the udders of cows subjected to > cruel milking machines which give them blood encrustations.. often > drop those encrustations into the milk. These coagulations > are stirred into the milk in general. > WHAT'S IN WATER > Not all the blood etc is in the meat. Wendy's slaughterhouses > dump feces, urine (ammonia), blood, and infectious pus > into the waterways, contaminating drinking for all. > > WHAT'S NOT IN A WENDY'S BURGER? > . BULK OR FIBER Meat with no fiber is the leading > cause of > intestinal cancer. The countries with the most > animal flesh > consumption have the highest rates of intestinal > cancer. > . VITAMIN C Dr Linus Pauling, only man to win 2 > Nobel prizes, > one for the discovery of several elements and for > his > neural biochemistry work, the other for peace, > worked on > vitamin C as a speeder of brain signals through > neurotransmitter > synapses. > THE BRAIN > Brain destroying chemicals in Wendy's and other > meats include > mercury, pcb's, cerebral artery clogging animal fat, > meat tenderizers > which break down brain tissue, > the absence of vitamin C and other neural > transmitters > Wm Shakespeare in 12th Night: He is a heavy eater of > beef. Methinks > it doth harm to his wit. > Albert Einstein, Da Vinci, Pythagoras, Ramanujan and > others > were vegetarian. Da Vinci was a fruitarian. > * Kuru, a disease contracted by cannibals' brain > consumptionwhich has > an incubation > period of 50 years, is closely linked to Mad Cow > ** (for 30 years. this Nobel prion > researcher found his work suppressed at Harvard > which > is invested heavily in the meat industry as are > Univ of Texas > and Stanford > *** some items on this list are intrinsic to all > meat.. > **** There is no such thing as organic meat.. for > insecticides > are in all the waters of the world. > ***** DES, one female hormone, has been banned. We > cannot say > on any given day that all these items are in > Wendy's meat. > THE FILM at http://www.wickedwendys.com shows > animals being > branded (castration not included in this video), > debeaked, > hung upside down by 1 hoof, struggling to pull away, > defecating > in fright, urinating in terror, being stunned with a > stun gun, > squealing, shrieking screaming > FOOD RECALLS > Sara Lee just recalled many thousand lbs. of > meat > --- End forwarded message --- > --- End forwarded message --- > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > contact owner: -owner > Mail list: > Delivered-mailing list > List-Un: - > > no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed > contact owner with complaints regarding posting/list > or anything else. Thank you. > please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this list > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Thanks, dognut. I'll see how it goes. and to everyone else... I have deleted the the chain of letters that led up to my reply.. so sorry for not doing it before.. See, I just get single list letters.. and am blessed with cable.. so didn't know this was a troublesome thing. cheers to all of you.. lets all keep up the good work of our compassionate diets and sharing the planet with each other .. and all other living things! These new recipes have been fab! _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 I've heard about them Karla (from reading "being vegetarian for dummies" *ggg*), but I lurves my colombian right now! :-) I'm a smokey cafe-haunting poety type, so espresso & other horrifically caffeinated drinks are par for the course. *hehehe* Megan - brent Monday, July 30, 2001 2:25 PM RE: for your friends still dragging their heels Megan, Just in case you are intrested in getting off caffine; have you tried some of the herbal "coffees"? I was a coffee drinker; my husband drinks coffee all day long at work. The herbal coffees don't taste like coffee; at least not to me, but they are good. The one I'm trying now has a hint of carob taste to it. I like having a hot cup of coffee in the morning, and this has been a good substitute for me. I hope this post doesn't offend anyone; it isn't meant to and I apologize if it does. Blessings, Karla B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2001 Report Share Posted July 30, 2001 Sometimes I wonder It's hard enough to have to deal with the misinterpretations of those who don't believe i what i believe, But I would think that our belonging to this list would make us of similar mind, and we could feel free to discuss, (or not, and hit the delete key) issues that typically affect vegetarians, such as animal rights and attitudes of meat eaters. I am also confused about this discussion of " tone " . It's an e-mail folks, there's no eyebrows wiggling or lowered voices to indicate that a " tone " would need to be taken into consideration. I myself have found it very hard to be sarcastic on e-mail. Anyway I just felt I needed to say that, now I have a dilemma After a month of being very conscious of trying to go vegan, I have slipped back sdown the dairy path and am starting to eat eggs again. Maybe the stress of my past few months have made me want something " simpler " or whatever. But my stomach has started to hurt me terribly. I know it's my diet. Could someone please send me quick vegan rcipes so I can get back on track? i know that the road to veganism is tough,especially living with a meat eater who thiks I'm nuts...but my stomach really hurts right now and I know it's the egg and cheese sandwich I just ate titi ............................... I'm in love with the world through the eyes of a girl ............................... _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 > I am also confused about this discussion of " tone " . > > It's an e-mail folks, there's no eyebrows wiggling or lowered voices to > indicate that a " tone " would need to be taken into consideration. If you don't understand the tone of writing, then that's your problem. Seriously. There is tone. All writing has tone. Literature has tone. If it didn't what would be the difference between Virginia Woolf and Danielle Steele or Tom Clancy and James Joyce. The written word can have tone, even if you're not good, what you're thinking and what you're actually meaning can bleed through clear as day. Preston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 Oh please, listen I don't know HOW many times people have "thought" there was a sarcastic, harsh, or down right nasty tone to an email when there wasn't. Why do you think so many people get into trouble when they trust people on the net? This isn't a book nor is it literature.. it's people conversing.... and it is definetly hard to always understand the "tone" of a person's email. You don't know my personality and I don't know yours .. It's all in your preception. I wonder, do newspapers have tone? As a journalist *I* know that you are not supposed to write biased articles... that's written word.. wonder how the "tone" of the newspaper is.. -------------------------------~*Mary*~Founder of "The Nuzzled Network"www.nuzzled.net "Our day will come if we just wait awhile"-Ruby and the Romantics If you don't understand the tone of writing, then that's your problem.Seriously.There is tone. All writing has tone. Literature has tone. If it didn't whatwould be the difference between Virginia Woolf and Danielle Steele or TomClancy and James Joyce.The written word can have tone, even if you're not good, what you'rethinking and what you're actually meaning can bleed through clear as day.Preston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2001 Report Share Posted August 3, 2001 I am sure that you are a great journalist dear, but this is not the forum for it. May your fingers type gloriously over the keyboard, but may it be only for the ingredients of a wonderful recipe that you would like to share! May this list be abundant with Love and Kindness.Kendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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