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That's so true, ANY effort does make a difference. That's what keeps

me going too. It's more than a lot of people (not the ones on this list)

do. I don't like pepperoni so I don't have to worry about that, &

I always get a veggie pizza. But I love meatloaf, meatballs etc.

so I've adopted Gimme Lean's "ground beef". It's the best substitute I've

had. It's really good. I can't find a ham substitute, it's just a harder

taste to copy. I've tried about 3 kinds & they weren't any good. My

dogs wouldn't even eat them.

Donni Irschick wrote:

I wasn't at all offended by your questions.

I find it strange that anyone

could be upset by meat analogues. I always loathed burger

and hot dogs, so

when Yves here began marketing veggie burger and hot dogs that

tasted like

beef, I was not a customer. They make a wonderful pepperoni

that my

meat-eater friends have adopted into their worlds. I have

found somewhere

that makes a chicken-like product that I love, and because I enjoyed

chicken

when I ate meat. Most of us come from meat-eating backgrounds.

Some have

aversions to anything that tastes like meat, some miss it.

I found a great

deal of peace in the EarthSave belief that ANY effort makes a difference.

It allows me to be more accepting of myself and others, coming

out of the

meat-centred world.

OK, enough blabbing. Any more great recipes?

Dragonfly

-

"Candace Selph" <candace

 

Friday, November 30, 2001 1:59 PM

Re: Hellooooo!

 

I am sorry if I offended anyone with my questions...

I have nothing but respect and admiration for Vegetarians and Vegans,

and

respect everyones right to their own opinion.

Candace

 

 

 

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since I may have offended and caused certain judgemental's to leave this

group, it is time I contribute.

 

First, I am selfishly keeping all the recipes I like since I joined a week

ago @ http://www.geocities.com/sterling3L/recipes.html

 

a small website I update frequently. Feel free to check it and the rest of

the site out.

 

http://www.geocities.com/sterling3L/

 

Second, here is a contribution I have not seen posted yet.

 

===================

 

Golden Macroons

 

1/2 c. water

1/2 c. honey

1 1/2 c. coconut

1/2 c. whole wheat flour

1/2 c. oats (blended first to pulverize a little)

1/2 t. salt

1 t. vanilla

 

Mix well and let sit for ten minutes. Put by tablespoons on a greased cookie

sheet and bake at 325 for 30 minutes.

 

 

 

 

JoProut [JoProut]

Friday, November 30, 2001 5:55 PM

 

Re: RE: Hellooooo!

 

 

 

In a message dated 11/30/01 3:04:30 PM, jstockdill writes:

 

<< Who cares about others beliefs? Let people say what they want. If you

can't handle the truth. Bite my pepperoni.

>>

 

ROFLMHO, Jon!!! I totally disagree with your assessment of animals, but as

you say, who cares? LOLOL! So, what recipe have you shared recently? A

soypepperoni concoction? :)

Jo

 

 

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Ok ok, I am a newbe here, but I will agree with Mesa, I don't

understand where there was any dis-respect??

I have already found several recipes I am ready to try! Thanks All!

And also, I have used TVP (total vegetable protein), looks like

ground beef,but its veggie. It works great for taco's, and it's also

good for things like chili or spagheti sauce! Hope this helps!

> Beth

 

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> > But I'm outta here. I much prefer lists on which people respect

others's

> > beliefs.

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since when did animals not have a higher

consciousness?/??????

--- Jon Stockdill <jstockdill wrote:

> I'm not even a veggie. I just want quick easy

> recipes. it's a shame you

> are leaving because of others beliefs. Kinda lame.

> Especially when they

> are just animals, many without higher consciousness.

>

> Who cares about others beliefs? Let people say what

> they want. If you

> can't handle the truth. Bite my pepperoni.

>

> --jon

>

>

>

> Melonzz

> [Melonzz]

> Friday, November 30, 2001 2:51 PM

>

> Re: Hellooooo!

>

>

> At 08:07 PM 11/30/2001 +0100, French Dread a.k.a

> Mesa wrote:

> >don't try to cook " meat-like " dishes, instead try

> to dis-

> >cover new flavors, and re-discover the taste of

> veggies.

>

> I'm a strict vegetarian (never fish/chicken, etc.,

> and striving for vegan),

> and joined this list in the hope of exchanging

> treasured vegetarian recipes

> people beg for.

> But I'm outta here. I much prefer lists on which

> people respect others's

> beliefs.

> As long as animals aren't killed to provide the

> dish, it is okay with

> me. Although I, myself, am not interested in

> analogues, I understand that

> they make the transition much easier (especially for

> kids), and also make

> it much easier for hosts and hostesses (I know of

> vegetarians who went back

> to meat because they found that they weren't being

> invited to barbecues --

> vegetarian hot dogs or burgers would have kept them

> vegetarian). Since I

> gather that this list's prime focus is in putting

> others down, I'll

> leave. Y'all give vegetarians a bad name.

>

>

>

> contact owner: -owner

> Mail list:

> Delivered-mailing list

>

> List-Un:

> -

>

> no flaming arguing or denigration of others allowed

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>

>

>

>

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my dog and cat and horse and mice went nuts.

--- dognut wrote:

> " JUST " animals, & you have the nerve to say that on

> a veggie list where

> many of us have become veggies because we don't

> approve of slaughtering

> animals. If you're not a veggie that's your

> decision, but to insult

> animal beings is another. I won't say any more

> because this is not the

> list for that debate, but I had to write something.

>

> Jon Stockdill wrote:

>

> > I'm not even a veggie. I just want quick easy

> recipes. it's a shame

> > you

> > are leaving because of others beliefs. Kinda

> lame. Especially when

> > they

> > are just animals, many without higher

> consciousness.

> >

> > Who cares about others beliefs? Let people say

> what they want. If

> > you

> > can't handle the truth. Bite my pepperoni.

> >

> > --jon

> >

> >

> >

> > Melonzz

> [Melonzz]

> > Friday, November 30, 2001 2:51 PM

> >

> > Re: Hellooooo!

> >

> >

> > At 08:07 PM 11/30/2001 +0100, French Dread a.k.a

> Mesa wrote:

> > >don't try to cook " meat-like " dishes, instead

> try to dis-

> > >cover new flavors, and re-discover the taste of

> veggies.

> >

> > I'm a strict vegetarian (never fish/chicken, etc.,

> and striving for

> > vegan),

> > and joined this list in the hope of exchanging

> treasured vegetarian

> > recipes

> > people beg for.

> > But I'm outta here. I much prefer lists on which

> people respect

> > others's

> > beliefs.

> > As long as animals aren't killed to provide the

> dish, it is okay with

> > me. Although I, myself, am not interested in

> analogues, I understand

> > that

> > they make the transition much easier (especially

> for kids), and also

> > make

> > it much easier for hosts and hostesses (I know of

> vegetarians who went

> > back

> > to meat because they found that they weren't being

> invited to

> > barbecues --

> > vegetarian hot dogs or burgers would have kept

> them vegetarian).

> > Since I

> > gather that this list's prime focus is in putting

> others down, I'll

> > leave. Y'all give vegetarians a bad name.

> >

> >

> >

> > contact owner: -owner

> > Mail list:

> > Delivered-mailing list

>

> > List-Un:

> -

> >

> > no flaming arguing or denigration of others

> allowed

> > contact owner with complaints regarding

> posting/list

> > or anything else. Thank you.

> > please share/comment/inform and mostly enjoy this

> list

> >

> >

> >

> >

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