Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 HI Jenni: That is what started me on the vegetarian path. When my son was also about 4 1/2 he asked where turkey came from. I said you know what a turket is and he said eewweee I am never eating that again. I thought he is right. However he is not vegetarian I am, my daughter is and my husband is not. He is now 18, my daughter is 15. Gayle Jenni Billings <jenni Sent: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:45:36 -0400 Chanda?? eggs?? careful Chanda.... the more you read.. the more you know.. the more you change! =) not that I don't totally agree... it's just once you know things, you can no longer NOT know them! =) The "food' industry is disgusting... it's cruel and unusual beyond reason. One of the reasons we started on the path toward veganism rather than ovo/lacto was an innocent discussiong I was having with my son.. (then 4 1/2 years old) I had read something about cows, and well.. basically it was a question someone poised to a veg site.. she asked if the others would drink milk or eat the eggs of chickens if they were raising them, insuring that the animals were properly treated, even loved... it got into a discussion (as these things often do) about how the milk industry really is, and well.. my son said "if you were a cow, mommy, I'd tell that farmer to leave you alone!" having nursed my two the comment hit home... we all decided to switch to soy.. eggs were out shortly after... the debeaking , the crowded cages, all that stuff... if you need any help with your transition, or if you have questions et cetera.. I'm here for ya! =) jenni On Thursday, September 15, 2005, at 09:13 AM, PuterWitch wrote: > debeaking, killing of male chicks etc. > PLEASE READ: http://www.thevegetariansite.com/ed_eggs.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 > That is what started me on the vegetarian path. When my son was also > about 4 1/2 he asked where turkey came from. I said you know what a > turket is and he said eewweee I am never eating that again. I thought > he is right. However he is not vegetarian I am, my daughter is and my > husband is not. He is now 18, my daughter is 15. Hi, Gayle! I started because when I had to feed myself in college, I was just so disgusted at the raw meat... and I began to think, could I kill the chicken or the cow myself? No? Well, then, why should I be eating them, and passing the buck on the dirty work? That moment I became vegetarian and haven't looked back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 exactly Amy,this is why I say that I respect the hunter who kills for food and utilizes all the parts. Some places in he world veggies can't even be grown and animal is all they have. I say, if you go out and kill it yourself, that is your business, and only for food, not sport, but to raise innocent animals just for slaughter is evil and certainly not meant to be. Blessings, Chanda - " Amy " <sandpiperhiker Thursday, September 15, 2005 1:05 PM Re: Chanda?? eggs?? Jenni >> That is what started me on the vegetarian path. When my son was also >> about 4 1/2 he asked where turkey came from. I said you know what a >> turket is and he said eewweee I am never eating that again. I thought >> he is right. However he is not vegetarian I am, my daughter is and my >> husband is not. He is now 18, my daughter is 15. > > > > Hi, Gayle! I started because when I had to feed myself in college, I > was just so disgusted at the raw meat... and I began to think, could I > kill the chicken or the cow myself? No? Well, then, why should I be > eating them, and passing the buck on the dirty work? That moment I > became vegetarian and haven't looked back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 > exactly Amy,this is why I say that I respect the hunter who kills for > food and utilizes all the parts. Some places in he world veggies > can't even be grown and animal is all they have. I say, if you go out > and kill it yourself, that is your business, and only for food, not > sport, but to raise innocent animals just for slaughter is evil and > certainly not meant to be. I think it's a really complicated subject for most. Onegood thing is that often they won't kill more than they need to eat, and if they do (say the deer is huge), I've often seen posters at state parks talking about a donation program where they can donate some of the processed meat to food kitchens. I dunno if that still goes on... but if you have nothing, a pack of donated meat will keep you alive til you're able to make different choices. Killing the animals is certainly not ideal, but who am I to judge someone who feeds his family on his or her own hard work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 true Amy, the thought of an animal dying is horrible, but animals die as prey to other animals, we are animals. In my personal opinion we are not meantt o eat meat. Intestine length, teeth and all that, but those who hunt because they have to, well.. like you say, and use it all, it's so much better anyway then seeing " God's " creatures raised in captivity for the sole purpose of slaughter. Hugs, Chanda - " Amy " <sandpiperhiker Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:23 PM Re: Chanda?? eggs?? Jenni >> exactly Amy,this is why I say that I respect the hunter who kills for >> food and utilizes all the parts. Some places in he world veggies >> can't even be grown and animal is all they have. I say, if you go out >> and kill it yourself, that is your business, and only for food, not >> sport, but to raise innocent animals just for slaughter is evil and >> certainly not meant to be. > > I think it's a really complicated subject for most. Onegood thing is > that often they won't kill more than they need to eat, and if they do > (say the deer is huge), I've often seen posters at state parks talking > about a donation program where they can donate some of the processed > meat to food kitchens. I dunno if that still goes on... but if you > have nothing, a pack of donated meat will keep you alive til you're > able to make different choices. > > Killing the animals is certainly not ideal, but who am I to judge > someone who feeds his family on his or her own hard work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 > true Amy, the thought of an animal dying is horrible, but animals > die as prey to other animals, we are animals. In my personal opinion > we are not meantt o eat meat. Intestine length, teeth and all that, > but those who hunt because they have to, well.. like you say, and use > it all, it's so much better anyway then seeing " God's " creatures > raised in captivity for the sole purpose of slaughter. We are indeed animals, but part of what separates us is our ability to reason and be aware of abstract things... so as we become more enlightened to the multitude of issues involved in eating meat, hopefully we consume less and less. Like (Jenni? J Lyn? Denise?) someone just a bit ago said - once you " know " , you can no longer " not know " ... and choosing to ignore it only destroys the integrity in your soul. I do think there is room for each along his path to that enlightenment though, as it cannot be forced... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2005 Report Share Posted September 15, 2005 very well said Amy! On Thursday, September 15, 2005, at 06:36 PM, Amy wrote: > I do think there is room for each along his path to that > enlightenment though, as it cannot be forced... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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