The China Study

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This is a Raw Food board - animal rights board, step left.

 

your references were interesting. and I had a very different

experience with the China Study - the majority of the latter work was

done using data from the Chinese people, not rats.

 

all the best,

 

Bob

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I have a couple of extra copies of the China Study by T. Colin

Campbell. It is somewhat dry reading, but well worth the effort. He

shows the relationship between cancer and animal protein very

convincingly. (Unfortunately, part of his research was done on animals.)

 

If you would read this book, I would be happy to mail it to you.

Please contact me off list, and tell me your mailing address. All I'd

ask in return is that when you finish it, you pass it on to someone

else who will read it.

 

Karen

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I already have more replies than books. I'll send it to the first

two. So, please don't send anymore replies.

Thanks.

Karen

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I have not read the book, but had the following conversation with someone who was recommending it:=====Me: Since the study was conducted in China and Taiwan I suspect that milk / dairy products were not a big part of the study? Lactose intolerance occurs at much higher frequencies in those parts of the world than some others.

Recommender: The book includes lots of research, from controlled studies of mice to small controlled studies of humans in the US to the really large observational China Study; the studies of mice in particular show that casein (the main protein in dairy products) is likely a cancer promoter.

Me: Drinking cow's milk is supported by one adaptation, lactase, which isn't even spread throughout the human population, let alone among rodents and primates. It may well be supported by additional adaptations, so I'd be rather skeptical about transferring results from a mouse model directly to lactose-tolerant humans. In any case, it seems like an interesting question to look into some time!

Recommender: Good point, the book admits at the end of ch. 3 that controlled human studies would be needed to generalize the casein results to humans. The china study itself showed a strong correlation between intake of animal protein and many types of cancers, but as an observational study it can only demonstrate correlation, not causation; it also did not shed light on casein specifically, and was obviously done in China where lactose intolerance is common.

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" Animal protein " is a broad generalization which does not appear to be well-supported. The proteins in muscle, in eggs, and in milk are completely different from each other. Even the proteins in curds and in whey are different from each other! Not to mention that the people in the observational studies were presumably consuming some animal fat, probably saturated, as well.

--RuchiraOn Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Karen <karen wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

I have a couple of extra copies of the China Study by T. Colin

Campbell. It is somewhat dry reading, but well worth the effort. He

shows the relationship between cancer and animal protein very

convincingly. (Unfortunately, part of his research was done on animals.)

 

If you would read this book, I would be happy to mail it to you.

Please contact me off list, and tell me your mailing address. All I'd

ask in return is that when you finish it, you pass it on to someone

else who will read it.

 

Karen

[Guest guest]

I have had many replies requesting the book, and I am sorry that I only

had two to send out. They are already in the mail to the first two

people who replied.

 

You can read this book online at:

 

http://tinyurl.com/c8o6jv

 

You should also be able to find it at the public library.

 

Karen