Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 The FBI has named an animal rights activist as the newest "Most Wanted" in America. Who cares about murderers and rapists, when we have federally funded FBI agents chasing down animal loving activists? Your hard earned tax dollars at their best:http://news./s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_domestic_terrorist -Cay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 cay snow wrote on 4/21/09 7:21 PM: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 I would hope that bombing animal research facilities is not a commonly-held value among our animal loving community nor one worth defending in the courts or the allocation of tax dollars. -Matthew , cay snow <caysnow wrote: > > The FBI has named an animal rights activist as the newest " Most Wanted " in America. Who cares about murderers and rapists, when we have federally funded FBI agents chasing down animal loving activists? Your hard earned tax dollars at their best: > > http://news./s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_domestic_terrorist > > -Cay > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 Yes, people with obviously inconsistent values like this give us all a bad name. They make as much sense as the person murdering abortion doctors because they're " pro-life " .--Ruchira On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:46 AM, straycat000 <straycat000 wrote: I would hope that bombing animal research facilities is not a commonly-held value among our animal loving community nor one worth defending in the courts or the allocation of tax dollars. -Matthew , cay snow <caysnow wrote: > > The FBI has named an animal rights activist as the newest " Most Wanted " in America. Who cares about murderers and rapists, when we have federally funded FBI agents chasing down animal loving activists? Your hard earned tax dollars at their best: > > http://news./s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_domestic_terrorist > > -Cay > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 You missed the point by a mile. Nobody on this group condones violence or bombing research facilities. If/when he's caught, he should be subjected to the law as any other individual. But do this guy's crimes rise to the level of being branded as the " most wanted terrorist " in this country? Or is it a case of the government taking the side of corporations, as it always does? Did you notice how, if an individual commits crimes against a corporation or an industry, he's branded as a " terrorist " and hunted down; but when a corporation poisons our pets via melamine[1] , or poisons children by buying cheap drywall[2], you don't see FBI agents swarming around. Ajay [1] http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/petfood.html [2] http://www.latimes.com/classified/realestate/printedition/la-rew-drywall5-2009ma\ r05,0,2380145.story straycat000 wrote: > I would hope that bombing animal research facilities is not a > commonly-held value among our animal loving community nor one worth > defending in the courts or the allocation of tax dollars. > > -Matthew > > <%40>, cay > snow <caysnow wrote: > > > > The FBI has named an animal rights activist as the newest " Most > Wanted " in America. Who cares about murderers and rapists, when we have > federally funded FBI agents chasing down animal loving activists? Your > hard earned tax dollars at their best: > > > > > http://news./s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_domestic_terrorist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2009 Report Share Posted April 23, 2009 id guess there's like a 85% chance the fbi is reading this very email chain. scary... -j On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Ajay <ajayboots wrote: > > > You missed the point by a mile. > > Nobody on this group condones violence or bombing research facilities. > If/when he's caught, he should be subjected to the law as any other > individual. > > But do this guy's crimes rise to the level of being branded as > the " most wanted terrorist " in this country? Or is it a case > of the government taking the side of corporations, as it > always does? Did you notice how, if an individual commits > crimes against a corporation or an industry, he's branded > as a " terrorist " and hunted down; but when a corporation > poisons our pets via melamine[1] , or poisons children > by buying cheap drywall[2], you don't see FBI agents > swarming around. > > Ajay > > [1] http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/petfood.html > [2] > http://www.latimes.com/classified/realestate/printedition/la-rew-drywall5-2009ma\ r05,0,2380145.story > > straycat000 wrote: >> I would hope that bombing animal research facilities is not a >> commonly-held value among our animal loving community nor one worth >> defending in the courts or the allocation of tax dollars. >> >> -Matthew >> >> <%40>, cay >> snow <caysnow wrote: >> > >> > The FBI has named an animal rights activist as the newest " Most >> Wanted " in America. Who cares about murderers and rapists, when we have >> federally funded FBI agents chasing down animal loving activists? Your >> hard earned tax dollars at their best: >> > >> > >> >> http://news./s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_domestic_terrorist > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I don't condone violence in any form, and that is one of the reasons I am vegan. However, I do object to the fact that the FBI is using valuable resources chasing down this guy when other, more serious crimes, are going unpunished or are brushed to the side.Cay--- On Thu, 4/23/09, Joelle Katcher <joellesk wrote:Joelle Katcher <joelleskRe: Re: FBI Most Wanted List - What a waste of tax dollarsajaybootsCc: "straycat000" <straycat000, Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 3:46 PM id guess there's like a 85% chance the fbi is reading this very email chain. scary... -j On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Ajay <ajayboots > wrote: > > > You missed the point by a mile. > > Nobody on this group condones violence or bombing research facilities. > If/when he's caught, he should be subjected to the law as any other > individual. > > But do this guy's crimes rise to the level of being branded as > the "most wanted terrorist" in this country? Or is it a case > of the government taking the side of corporations, as it > always does? Did you notice how, if an individual commits > crimes against a corporation or an industry, he's branded > as a "terrorist" and hunted down; but when a corporation > poisons our pets via melamine[1] , or poisons children > by buying cheap drywall[2], you don't see FBI agents > swarming around. > > Ajay > > [1] http://www.fda. gov/oc/opacom/ hottopics/ petfood.html > [2] > http://www.latimes. com/classified/ realestate/ printedition/ la-rew-drywall5- 2009mar05, 0,2380145. story > > straycat000 wrote: >> I would hope that bombing animal research facilities is not a >> commonly-held value among our animal loving community nor one worth >> defending in the courts or the allocation of tax dollars. >> >> -Matthew >> >> @ .com <% 40. com>, cay >> snow <caysnow > wrote: >> > >> > The FBI has named an animal rights activist as the newest "Most >> Wanted" in America. Who cares about murderers and rapists, when we have >> federally funded FBI agents chasing down animal loving activists? Your >> hard earned tax dollars at their best: >> > >> > >> >> http://news. / s/ap/20090421/ ap_on_go_ ca_st_pe/ us_domestic_ terrorist > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 LET'S HOPE THEY ARE and that the individual people in that department start to realize the flawed and faulty nature of FBI investigations and refuse to partake in activities that serve to undermine american " democracy " on behalf of the big business that is currently destroying the fabric of our country. the only reason the FBI is able to do what they do is because of the complicity of each and every staff member. EMMOn Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Joelle Katcher <joellesk wrote: id guess there's like a 85% chance the fbi is reading this very email chain. scary... -j On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Ajay <ajayboots wrote: > > > You missed the point by a mile. > > Nobody on this group condones violence or bombing research facilities. > If/when he's caught, he should be subjected to the law as any other > individual. > > But do this guy's crimes rise to the level of being branded as > the " most wanted terrorist " in this country? Or is it a case > of the government taking the side of corporations, as it > always does? Did you notice how, if an individual commits > crimes against a corporation or an industry, he's branded > as a " terrorist " and hunted down; but when a corporation > poisons our pets via melamine[1] , or poisons children > by buying cheap drywall[2], you don't see FBI agents > swarming around. > > Ajay > > [1] http://www.fda.gov/oc/opacom/hottopics/petfood.html > [2] > http://www.latimes.com/classified/realestate/printedition/la-rew-drywall5-2009mar05,0,2380145.story > > straycat000 wrote: >> I would hope that bombing animal research facilities is not a >> commonly-held value among our animal loving community nor one worth >> defending in the courts or the allocation of tax dollars. >> >> -Matthew >> >> <%40>, cay >> snow <caysnow wrote: >> > >> > The FBI has named an animal rights activist as the newest " Most >> Wanted " in America. Who cares about murderers and rapists, when we have >> federally funded FBI agents chasing down animal loving activists? Your >> hard earned tax dollars at their best: >> > >> > >> >> http://news./s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_domestic_terrorist > -- M. Mello " I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. " -- Thomas Jefferson 1802 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I'm appalled to see that some here actually think the intelligence agencies are protecting us in some way. They exist to exercise social control. (I'm not going to go into long explanations, please do your own research if you have any doubt about this). I am always suspicious when ar and other politically marginalized people are accused of terrorist acts. How do we know these folks did what they're accused of? Who do you believe? The corporate press? They're a mouthpiece for the very gov't agencies that exercise social control. I urge never to believe what comes out in the mainstream, and even some of the so called alternative press. Seek out a variety of sources and compare, sift, read and listen some more, repeat. No news source is perfect or 100% unbiased, so all the more reason to seek out a variety. It's easy with the internet. I suggest starting with democracynow.org. And listen to Mumia Abu Jamal's recordings (search on scroogle.org, not google). Our own Rose Aguilar's show on KALW features some very thought provoking discussions (thanks Rose - I liked your interview on KPFA yesterday!) Oh and hey, if any intels are reading, please go veg, ok? ,-> janice r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Wow. What a smug email. You know, I would never think that I would have to stand up for the US intelligence agencies, but believe it or not, they do actually hunt down and arrest real criminals, and by doing so, are protecting US citizens. So how can you be appalled that people here actually think that? Are you convinced that the FBI devotes 100% of its resources to picking on animal rights activists and other 'politically marginalized' people? - BrianOn Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Janice Rothstein <bikegata wrote: I'm appalled to see that some here actually think the intelligence agencies are protecting us in some way. They exist to exercise social control. (I'm not going to go into long explanations, please do your own research if you have any doubt about this). I am always suspicious when ar and other politically marginalized people are accused of terrorist acts. How do we know these folks did what they're accused of? Who do you believe? The corporate press? They're a mouthpiece for the very gov't agencies that exercise social control. I urge never to believe what comes out in the mainstream, and even some of the so called alternative press. Seek out a variety of sources and compare, sift, read and listen some more, repeat. No news source is perfect or 100% unbiased, so all the more reason to seek out a variety. It's easy with the internet. I suggest starting with democracynow.org. And listen to Mumia Abu Jamal's recordings (search on scroogle.org, not google). Our own Rose Aguilar's show on KALW features some very thought provoking discussions (thanks Rose - I liked your interview on KPFA yesterday!) Oh and hey, if any intels are reading, please go veg, ok? ,-> janice r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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