Food, Inc.

[Guest guest]

If the movie says the problem with dairy, eggs and meat is the cruelty

at factory farms, then there are two types of solutions: reduce the

cruelty or avoid factory farms. Local " family farms " where animals are

treated " more humanely " offer both solutions in one package, so it makes

a lot of sense for the movie to highlight these farms. And if there's a

perfectly good solution that lets us still eat dairy, eggs and meat,

there's no need to cover vegetarianism.

 

I think ethical vegetarianism faces a big challenge as local " family

farms " negate the standard arguments used to promote vegetarianism. For

myself, I found that I just needed to go back to the Vegan Society's

original definition of veganism*: to " live without exploiting animals. "

Once I shifted from talking about suffering to talking about the

exploitation that causes the suffering, local " family farms " stopped

being acceptable alternatives.

 

Victor

 

* http://www.ivu.org/history/world-forum/1951vegan.html

 

Warren wrote:

 

I saw " Food, Inc. " yesterday and I would say it's a mixed bag. It does

shed light on several important issues that many people may not be

familiar with including animal cruelty at factory farms but the solution

it offers up (for that issue) is to buy from farmers who treat their

animals in a more humane manner which is of course better than factory

farmed animals but they never, ever offer going vegan as an option.

 

--

Veganism as Anti-Oppression: http://loveallbeings.org/

[Guest guest]

, Alex Bury <alexbury1 wrote:

> two of his meat-eating friends saw the movie last

> week. They haven't eaten meat since!

 

Several years ago, I heard a story about someone I know, an individual who had

no strong feeling for animals or religious/philosophical convictions in the

direction of animal rights. In fact, he was the kind of person you would think

would never be receptive to a vegetarian message.

 

He attended a Tony Robbins get-together of some sort, at which a movie (or a

clip from a movie) was shown, relating to how meat was produced. As a result of

that experience, this individual immediately stopped eating meat.

 

Regardless of the details (how long the " conversion " lasted, whether it included

abstention from seafood, etc.), the point that I was left with is the power of a

movie, or a segment from a movie, to influence a viewer's eating habits.

 

Does anyone happen to know what movie Tony Robbins was showing?

 

Is there any consensus about which movie or clip is most effective, in terms of

getting people to " see the light " in this regard?

 

Dan

 

Dan Berman

www.veggieREELtor.com

[Guest guest]

Earthlings is by far the most well-made, effective documentary out there in regards to these matters --

hands down.

 

will

 

 

 

veggiereeltor <dan Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 1:59:31 PM Re: Food, Inc.

 

@ .com, Alex Bury <alexbury1@. ..> wrote:> two of his meat-eating friends saw the movie last> week. They haven't eaten meat since!Several years ago, I heard a story about someone I know, an individual who had no strong feeling for animals or religious/philosoph ical convictions in the direction of animal rights. In fact, he was the kind of person you would think would never be receptive to a vegetarian message.He attended a Tony Robbins get-together of some sort, at which a movie (or a clip from a movie) was shown, relating to how meat was produced. As a result of that experience, this individual immediately stopped eating meat.Regardless of the details (how long the "conversion" lasted, whether it included abstention from seafood, etc.), the point that I was left with

is the power of a movie, or a segment from a movie, to influence a viewer's eating habits.Does anyone happen to know what movie Tony Robbins was showing?Is there any consensus about which movie or clip is most effective, in terms of getting people to "see the light" in this regard?DanDan Bermanwww.veggieREELtor. com