Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Hey Folks: I want to buy a pleather/PVC sofa, and have been dismayed to find that leather has gotten so cheap now that it is hard to find substitutes. I'm willing to pay more to get something water resistant that isn't the skin of a dead animal. Anyone have any good idea on sources for PVC sofas? Ikea doesn't seem to have them. Thanks, Mila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Instead of PVC, I would like to recommend microsuede (a non-animal manufactured material), which is available at most furniture retailers. While nothing manufactured is ever perfect, PVC is one of the most poisonous materials on earth, and undoubtedly contributes to habitat loss. Ikea is one of the many companies that has phased out PVC. For more information: http://www.grist.org/article/pvc1/ http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaigns/toxics/go-pvc-free On Oct 13, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Mila wrote: > I want to buy a pleather/PVC sofa, and have been dismayed to find > that leather has gotten so cheap now that it is hard to find > substitutes. I'm willing to pay more to get something water > resistant that isn't the skin of a dead animal. > > Anyone have any good idea on sources for PVC sofas? Ikea doesn't > seem to have them. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Mila, Echo Furniture in SF/Noe Valley sells some affordable couches that are made of " leather textile " -- which is not leather. I don't know if it is PVC or not; maybe a cotton/poly blend? This is their website: http://web.me.com/echofurniture/iWeb/Site/Transitional-Modern-Furniture-San%20Fr\ ancisco.html Best, Kasie , " Mila " <milaintoronto wrote: > Anyone have any good idea on sources for PVC sofas? Ikea doesn't seem to have them. > > Thanks, > Mila > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hi Mila, I've been recently shopping for a vegan sofa bed. I will definitely ck out Echo Furniture in Noe Valley. We got our natural organic vegan bed from The Futon Shop on Cesar Chavez, and I was so excited to be buying local, but we had a bad experience with those guys. So for our sofa bed, I've gone back to the evil I know ... online shopping. (Ironic that I feel I can trust online shopping more than these local guys.) I'd much rather be buying local, of course, so I'm very excited to ck out Echo. Also, I'd like to avoid PVC, too. Great suggestion about microsuede .. I've got a microsuede fabric sofa at home that I really like. Hmmm, some of things I've been looking at online, may have PVC in them .... hmmm, if I get microsuede instead of pleather/leatherette, maybe I can avoid this. Well, in case you're interested, Mila, here are some of my faves from my online search (some of which may have PVC): Aragorn White Convertible Sofa Bed in Leatherette http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Aragorn-White-Convertible-Sofa-Bed/2996856/\ product.html Beige Microsuede Sofa Bed http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Beige-Split-back-Convertible-Sofa-Bed/40819\ 00/product.html Microfiber Sofa Bed http://greatfurnituredeal.com/lauderhill-sofa-bed-in-orange-microfiber-finish-by\ -acme-furniture.html Faux Leather Sofa Bed with Wood Legs http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Brianna-inspired-Ladder-tier-Futon-Sofabed/\ 4248529/product.html?recommendation_id=6af6649c-0320-466e-8cbb-19c5a6e20eec.1 Here's the wikipedia on pleather/leatherette/etc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_leather Thanks to all for the post and replies on this topic, since I've been shopping for the same thing! -Rachel D. San Francisco, CA , " Mila " <milaintoronto wrote: > > Hey Folks: > > I want to buy a pleather/PVC sofa, and have been dismayed to find that leather has gotten so cheap now that it is hard to find substitutes. I'm willing to pay more to get something water resistant that isn't the skin of a dead animal. > > Anyone have any good idea on sources for PVC sofas? Ikea doesn't seem to have them. > > Thanks, > Mila > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Echo Furniture is great, I highly recommend going in there. The owner is very helpful, and has made me some prices I couldn't find matched anywhere else, not even online. For mattresses, if you're looking for something natural or organic, but a futon isn't your speed (or if you'd like to check out some other options), I highly recommend Keetsa: http://keetsa.com/ They have a showroom in SF on 9th Street, and they're a local Bay Area company. What's really interesting about their mattresses is how they compress them into a suitcase sized box, so you could actually take a king sized mattress home with you on the bus. (Not exaggerating.) I personally own a Tempur-Pedic, but Keeta is easily more comfortable, much less expensive, and far less toxic. (And of course, I'm not affiliated with any of the businesses in this email.) On Oct 14, 2009, at 3:11 PM, rachel4veggies wrote: > I've been recently shopping for a vegan sofa bed. I will definitely > ck out Echo Furniture in Noe Valley. We got our natural organic > vegan bed from The Futon Shop on Cesar Chavez, and I was so excited > to be buying local, but we had a bad experience with those guys. So > for our sofa bed, I've gone back to the evil I know ... online > shopping. (Ironic that I feel I can trust online shopping more than > these local guys.) I'd much rather be buying local, of course, so > I'm very excited to ck out Echo. Also, I'd like to avoid PVC, too. > Great suggestion about microsuede .. I've got a microsuede fabric > sofa at home that I really like. Hmmm, some of things I've been > looking at online, may have PVC in them .... hmmm, if I get > microsuede instead of pleather/leatherette, maybe I can avoid this. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 Thanks for all the suggestions, I will definitely check them out. I should do my homework -- put are PVC and pleather synonymous? Or is there non-PVC pleather? I have a microsuede sofa right now, but my rabbit has taken a liking to " marking " it, hence the desire for something water-proof. Thanks again, Mila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2009 Report Share Posted October 15, 2009 On Oct 15, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Mila wrote: > Thanks for all the suggestions, I will definitely check them out. I > should do my homework -- put are PVC and pleather synonymous? Or is > there non-PVC pleather? > PVC is the material itself, while " pleather " is more of a nickname. If something is fake leather, you'll still have to read the labels. PVC is the same as vinyl, and not all fake leathers are made from the same materials. " No PVC for me " and " no vinyl and that's final " . All you need to remember. Don't forget, leather production is still very toxic. So don't feel like you're making a trade-off between animal rights and the environment. Leather is bad for both the environment and the animals. PVC is bad for the environment, which is indirectly bad for animals (habitat loss, poison leaching into water and food supplies, etc) but still bad. There are plenty of other synthetics that aren't perfect but much better than leather and PVC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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