Guest guest Posted February 4, 2004 Report Share Posted February 4, 2004 I've given my babies Vitamin D. I don't think it's a new recommendation. It's especially important for darker skinned babies. My Dr. said you can get vitamin D by sun exposure through a window but I'm not sure if this is correct. I saw a documentary the other day on Vitamin D deficiency and a possible link to multiple sclerosis? I guess less sunny places have a way higher incidence of this disease & new studies suggest it is linked to a vitamin D deficiency. The program said we don't get enough sunlight in northern climes to synthesize Vit. D. (I also live in Canada just across the US border...so it's probably more of a concern here.) Previously I read that Vit. D is one of the factors that led to skin color differentiation as the people of the world migrated from Africa. Lighter skin aborbs sunlight more effectively to create vitamin D. Lighter skin was positively selected in Northern climes because darker people would have a vit. D deficiency and be more likely to have children with birth defects or die. Conversely, sunnier climes positively select darker skin because light skin absorbs more sunlight which depletes folic acid in the blood stream. Lighter skinned people in sunnier climates should take folic acid supplements to avoid birth defects etc. The reason the First Nations populations of the north were able to retain a darker skin in the northern climate was because of their high dietary intake of Vitamin D through consumtion of fish and animal fat high in vitamin D. Now that many Inuit communites are adopting a " Western diet " vitamin D deficiency is a real problem and they have to take supplements. Anyway, I don't know if that helps or not but I found it quite interesting as I had never heard such a good explanation of how our skin color differentiated over time. Melanie > > Stephanie [ss6055] > Tuesday, February 03, 2004 7:35 AM > > Vitamin D > > > Lately I've been reading about the need for vitamin D supplements in > breastfed infants in northern climates. I am just curious how people on > this list feel about this issue and if there is any infant drop > supplement that is vegetarian. It looks like this is a new > recommendation? My 7 month old still hasn't started solids yet. Thanks > for any input on the matter!! > > Stephanie in Seattle > > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG > website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful > for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion > list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. > Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. > > edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified > health professional. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 , Stephanie <ss6055@c...> wrote: > Lately I've been reading about the need for vitamin D supplements in > breastfed infants in northern climates. I am just curious how people on > this list feel about this issue and if there is any infant drop > supplement that is vegetarian. It looks like this is a new > recommendation? My 7 month old still hasn't started solids yet. Thanks > for any input on the matter!! It's not new, at least around here. My oldest son was born in March 1996, and the paediatrician told me to give him vitamin D. I did give him some, but soon desisted, and he's fine. My second son was born in June 1999, and no mention was made of vitamin D drops, but of course that was midsummer. My daughter was born in November 2002, and again the paediatrician (same one) said nothing about vitamin D supplementation. So maybe he changed his mind ... I used Poly-V-Sol for the short time I used it. He HATED it. Be well, Hadass in Winnipeg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Melanie, That is interesting to know. Thank you for sharing. Melanie Melanie Mobbs <mmobbs wrote: I've given my babies Vitamin D. I don't think it's a new recommendation. It's especially important for darker skinned babies. My Dr. said you can get vitamin D by sun exposure through a window but I'm not sure if this is correct. I saw a documentary the other day on Vitamin D deficiency and a possible link to multiple sclerosis? I guess less sunny places have a way higher incidence of this disease & new studies suggest it is linked to a vitamin D deficiency. The program said we don't get enough sunlight in northern climes to synthesize Vit. D. (I also live in Canada just across the US border...so it's probably more of a concern here.) Previously I read that Vit. D is one of the factors that led to skin color differentiation as the people of the world migrated from Africa. Lighter skin aborbs sunlight more effectively to create vitamin D. Lighter skin was positively selected in Northern climes because darker people would have a vit. D deficiency and be more likely to have children with birth defects or die. Conversely, sunnier climes positively select darker skin because light skin absorbs more sunlight which depletes folic acid in the blood stream. Lighter skinned people in sunnier climates should take folic acid supplements to avoid birth defects etc. The reason the First Nations populations of the north were able to retain a darker skin in the northern climate was because of their high dietary intake of Vitamin D through consumtion of fish and animal fat high in vitamin D. Now that many Inuit communites are adopting a " Western diet " vitamin D deficiency is a real problem and they have to take supplements. Anyway, I don't know if that helps or not but I found it quite interesting as I had never heard such a good explanation of how our skin color differentiated over time. Melanie Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 no i didn't. i live in canada (victoria BC) and just made sure to get out everyday (my daughter is almost 2). i also make sure i have a good diet and even now my daughter still nurses. the dr. said it is more a concern with people with darker skin and/or those who don't get outside much. the main thing that made me decide not to is the vitamins are produced by the formula companies, so i see it as their way of selling something to breast babies and to make mothers question if theie milk is *good enough*. if you want more information check out la leche leagues website it is full of good information. tara - Stephanie Tuesday, February 03, 2004 10:35 AM Vitamin D Lately I've been reading about the need for vitamin D supplements in breastfed infants in northern climates. I am just curious how people on this list feel about this issue and if there is any infant drop supplement that is vegetarian. It looks like this is a new recommendation? My 7 month old still hasn't started solids yet. Thanks for any input on the matter!! Stephanie in Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Hi Stephanie, my oldest was a babe when we were back in Seattle. I never gave her vitamin D and she seemed to fare well. I'm guessing that you're wondering about vitamin D since you're right in the middle of the oh so dark rainy season (I remember it well). It's my understanding that daily exposure to natural light on any part of the body (like hands) for just 10 min. will allow the body to produce all the necessary vitamin D. There was a good article in Mothering magazine a while back that also addressed this issue. You might be able to find it in their archives at www.mothering.com Good luck, longer days await. Stephanie in Maryland , Stephanie <ss6055@c...> wrote: > Lately I've been reading about the need for vitamin D supplements in > breastfed infants in northern climates. I am just curious how people on > this list feel about this issue and if there is any infant drop > supplement that is vegetarian. It looks like this is a new > recommendation? My 7 month old still hasn't started solids yet. Thanks > for any input on the matter!! > > Stephanie in Seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Stephanie, I wrote some thoughts on vitD suplementation in another post, but wanted to mention how irritating it is that these campaigns make it sound like breastmilk is somehow lacking and therefore breastfed infants need supplements. Could make an expectant mom choose formula because it sounds more " complete " (never mind the lack of anything to build the baby's immune system...) If I were running the campaign to make sure the infants got enough vitamin D, I would make it say something more like, All infants in northern climes need to get adequate sun exposure (see your doctor for specific recommendations) or they may need a vitamin D supplement. If you are giving formula or cow milk, check to see if a supplement was already added before giving your child additional drops. Jen Stephanie wrote: >Lately I've been reading about the need for vitamin D supplements in >breastfed infants in northern climates. I am just curious how people on >this list feel about this issue and if there is any infant drop >supplement that is vegetarian. It looks like this is a new >recommendation? My 7 month old still hasn't started solids yet. Thanks >for any input on the matter!! > >Stephanie in Seattle > > > >For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. > >edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2004 Report Share Posted February 6, 2004 Thanks for the responses. I wasn't told about this with my first daughter. Does anyone know of a supplement that is vegetarian? I looked up Poly-Vi-Sol, and it contains D3 not D2. Thanks! Stephanie in Seattle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 http://www.courier-journal.com/features/health/2004/02/hf-front- vitamin0212-11146.html Here is a link to an interesting article about vitamin D... Melodese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 So basically, are they just saying ............go out more? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork Sent: Tuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:45:12 PM Vitamin D People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. The vitamin, produced when the skin is exposed to sunlight, helps the body absorb calcium and is considered important for bone health. A team in Austria has found that it can also have an impact on death rates, the Archives of Internal Medicine reports. "This is the first association study that shows vitamin D affects mortality regardless of the (primary) reason for death," said Dr Harald Dobnig of the University of Graz, who led the study. Vitamin D, known as the "sunshine vitamin", is added to milk and is found in fatty fish like salmon but many people do not get enough of it. A lack of the vitamin can lead to rickets in children and osteoporosis in adults. Recent studies have indicated that it may offer a variety of other health benefits, including protecting against cancer, peripheral artery disease and tuberculosis. Last week, American researchers said vitamin D may extend the lives of people with colon and rectal cancer. Mr Dobnig and colleagues studied more than 3,200 people with an average age of 62 who were scheduled for a heart examination between 1997 and 2000. During an eight-year follow-up programme, the researchers found that the quarter of volunteers with the lowest levels of vitamin D in their blood were more likely to have died. Researchers found the risk was doubled for people with between 5 to 10 nanograms per millilitre of vitamin D in their blood, even when factors such as heart disease, exercise and other conditions were taken into account, Dr Dobnig said. Most doctors believe people should have between 20 to 30 nanograms per millilitre of the vitamin in their blood, he added. It is not clear why vitamin D could have such a beneficial effect on mortality. Dr Dobnig said that the findings could help doctors become more aware of the problem in those who spend large amounts of time indoors, including the elderly and immobile. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008  I guess so - but as you know, the Vegan Society and Stephen Walsh think you should take a supplement, because for most of the year in the UK the sun is at the wrong angle for us to manufacture enough vitamin D to keep us healthy. Jo - Peter VV Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:47 PM Re: Vitamin D So basically, are they just saying ............go out more? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork > Sent: Tuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:45:12 PM Vitamin D People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. The vitamin, produced when the skin is exposed to sunlight, helps the body absorb calcium and is considered important for bone health. A team in Austria has found that it can also have an impact on death rates, the Archives of Internal Medicine reports. "This is the first association study that shows vitamin D affects mortality regardless of the (primary) reason for death," said Dr Harald Dobnig of the University of Graz, who led the study. Vitamin D, known as the "sunshine vitamin", is added to milk and is found in fatty fish like salmon but many people do not get enough of it. A lack of the vitamin can lead to rickets in children and osteoporosis in adults. Recent studies have indicated that it may offer a variety of other health benefits, including protecting against cancer, peripheral artery disease and tuberculosis. Last week, American researchers said vitamin D may extend the lives of people with colon and rectal cancer. Mr Dobnig and colleagues studied more than 3,200 people with an average age of 62 who were scheduled for a heart examination between 1997 and 2000. During an eight-year follow-up programme, the researchers found that the quarter of volunteers with the lowest levels of vitamin D in their blood were more likely to have died. Researchers found the risk was doubled for people with between 5 to 10 nanograms per millilitre of vitamin D in their blood, even when factors such as heart disease, exercise and other conditions were taken into account, Dr Dobnig said. Most doctors believe people should have between 20 to 30 nanograms per millilitre of the vitamin in their blood, he added. It is not clear why vitamin D could have such a beneficial effect on mortality. Dr Dobnig said that the findings could help doctors become more aware of the problem in those who spend large amounts of time indoors, including the elderly and immobile. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Should live in Gods country, we have special sun.... gives vitamin double d..... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork Sent: Tuesday, 24 June, 2008 11:30:32 PMRe: Vitamin D  I guess so - but as you know, the Vegan Society and Stephen Walsh think you should take a supplement, because for most of the year in the UK the sun is at the wrong angle for us to manufacture enough vitamin D to keep us healthy. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:47 PM Re: Vitamin D So basically, are they just saying ............ go out more? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:45:12 PM Vitamin D People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. The vitamin, produced when the skin is exposed to sunlight, helps the body absorb calcium and is considered important for bone health. A team in Austria has found that it can also have an impact on death rates, the Archives of Internal Medicine reports. "This is the first association study that shows vitamin D affects mortality regardless of the (primary) reason for death," said Dr Harald Dobnig of the University of Graz, who led the study. Vitamin D, known as the "sunshine vitamin", is added to milk and is found in fatty fish like salmon but many people do not get enough of it. A lack of the vitamin can lead to rickets in children and osteoporosis in adults. Recent studies have indicated that it may offer a variety of other health benefits, including protecting against cancer, peripheral artery disease and tuberculosis. Last week, American researchers said vitamin D may extend the lives of people with colon and rectal cancer. Mr Dobnig and colleagues studied more than 3,200 people with an average age of 62 who were scheduled for a heart examination between 1997 and 2000. During an eight-year follow-up programme, the researchers found that the quarter of volunteers with the lowest levels of vitamin D in their blood were more likely to have died. Researchers found the risk was doubled for people with between 5 to 10 nanograms per millilitre of vitamin D in their blood, even when factors such as heart disease, exercise and other conditions were taken into account, Dr Dobnig said. Most doctors believe people should have between 20 to 30 nanograms per millilitre of the vitamin in their blood, he added. It is not clear why vitamin D could have such a beneficial effect on mortality. Dr Dobnig said that the findings could help doctors become more aware of the problem in those who spend large amounts of time indoors, including the elderly and immobile. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008  Is that when it's not raining ? :-) Jo - Peter VV Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:57 PM Re: Vitamin D Should live in Gods country, we have special sun.... gives vitamin double d..... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork > Sent: Tuesday, 24 June, 2008 11:30:32 PMRe: Vitamin D  I guess so - but as you know, the Vegan Society and Stephen Walsh think you should take a supplement, because for most of the year in the UK the sun is at the wrong angle for us to manufacture enough vitamin D to keep us healthy. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:47 PM Re: Vitamin D So basically, are they just saying ............ go out more? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:45:12 PM Vitamin D People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. The vitamin, produced when the skin is exposed to sunlight, helps the body absorb calcium and is considered important for bone health. A team in Austria has found that it can also have an impact on death rates, the Archives of Internal Medicine reports. "This is the first association study that shows vitamin D affects mortality regardless of the (primary) reason for death," said Dr Harald Dobnig of the University of Graz, who led the study. Vitamin D, known as the "sunshine vitamin", is added to milk and is found in fatty fish like salmon but many people do not get enough of it. A lack of the vitamin can lead to rickets in children and osteoporosis in adults. Recent studies have indicated that it may offer a variety of other health benefits, including protecting against cancer, peripheral artery disease and tuberculosis. Last week, American researchers said vitamin D may extend the lives of people with colon and rectal cancer. Mr Dobnig and colleagues studied more than 3,200 people with an average age of 62 who were scheduled for a heart examination between 1997 and 2000. During an eight-year follow-up programme, the researchers found that the quarter of volunteers with the lowest levels of vitamin D in their blood were more likely to have died. Researchers found the risk was doubled for people with between 5 to 10 nanograms per millilitre of vitamin D in their blood, even when factors such as heart disease, exercise and other conditions were taken into account, Dr Dobnig said. Most doctors believe people should have between 20 to 30 nanograms per millilitre of the vitamin in their blood, he added. It is not clear why vitamin D could have such a beneficial effect on mortality. Dr Dobnig said that the findings could help doctors become more aware of the problem in those who spend large amounts of time indoors, including the elderly and immobile. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 It rains beer here..... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork Sent: Wednesday, 25 June, 2008 10:41:23 PMRe: Vitamin D  Is that when it's not raining ? :-) Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:57 PM Re: Vitamin D Should live in Gods country, we have special sun.... gives vitamin double d..... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 24 June, 2008 11:30:32 PMRe: Vitamin D  I guess so - but as you know, the Vegan Society and Stephen Walsh think you should take a supplement, because for most of the year in the UK the sun is at the wrong angle for us to manufacture enough vitamin D to keep us healthy. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:47 PM Re: Vitamin D So basically, are they just saying ............ go out more? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:45:12 PM Vitamin D People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. The vitamin, produced when the skin is exposed to sunlight, helps the body absorb calcium and is considered important for bone health. A team in Austria has found that it can also have an impact on death rates, the Archives of Internal Medicine reports. "This is the first association study that shows vitamin D affects mortality regardless of the (primary) reason for death," said Dr Harald Dobnig of the University of Graz, who led the study. Vitamin D, known as the "sunshine vitamin", is added to milk and is found in fatty fish like salmon but many people do not get enough of it. A lack of the vitamin can lead to rickets in children and osteoporosis in adults. Recent studies have indicated that it may offer a variety of other health benefits, including protecting against cancer, peripheral artery disease and tuberculosis. Last week, American researchers said vitamin D may extend the lives of people with colon and rectal cancer. Mr Dobnig and colleagues studied more than 3,200 people with an average age of 62 who were scheduled for a heart examination between 1997 and 2000. During an eight-year follow-up programme, the researchers found that the quarter of volunteers with the lowest levels of vitamin D in their blood were more likely to have died. Researchers found the risk was doubled for people with between 5 to 10 nanograms per millilitre of vitamin D in their blood, even when factors such as heart disease, exercise and other conditions were taken into account, Dr Dobnig said. Most doctors believe people should have between 20 to 30 nanograms per millilitre of the vitamin in their blood, he added. It is not clear why vitamin D could have such a beneficial effect on mortality. Dr Dobnig said that the findings could help doctors become more aware of the problem in those who spend large amounts of time indoors, including the elderly and immobile. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 If it rains beer I think I might be relocating it is vegan beer I take it???--- On Wed, 25/6/08, Peter VV <swpgh01 wrote: Peter VV <swpgh01Re: Vitamin D Date: Wednesday, 25 June, 2008, 10:43 PM It rains beer here..... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 June, 2008 10:41:23 PMRe: Vitamin D  Is that when it's not raining ? :-) Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:57 PM Re: Vitamin D Should live in Gods country, we have special sun.... gives vitamin double d..... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 24 June, 2008 11:30:32 PMRe: Vitamin D  I guess so - but as you know, the Vegan Society and Stephen Walsh think you should take a supplement, because for most of the year in the UK the sun is at the wrong angle for us to manufacture enough vitamin D to keep us healthy. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:47 PM Re: Vitamin D So basically, are they just saying ............ go out more? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:45:12 PM Vitamin D People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. The vitamin, produced when the skin is exposed to sunlight, helps the body absorb calcium and is considered important for bone health. A team in Austria has found that it can also have an impact on death rates, the Archives of Internal Medicine reports. "This is the first association study that shows vitamin D affects mortality regardless of the (primary) reason for death," said Dr Harald Dobnig of the University of Graz, who led the study. Vitamin D, known as the "sunshine vitamin", is added to milk and is found in fatty fish like salmon but many people do not get enough of it. A lack of the vitamin can lead to rickets in children and osteoporosis in adults. Recent studies have indicated that it may offer a variety of other health benefits, including protecting against cancer, peripheral artery disease and tuberculosis. Last week, American researchers said vitamin D may extend the lives of people with colon and rectal cancer. Mr Dobnig and colleagues studied more than 3,200 people with an average age of 62 who were scheduled for a heart examination between 1997 and 2000. During an eight-year follow-up programme, the researchers found that the quarter of volunteers with the lowest levels of vitamin D in their blood were more likely to have died. Researchers found the risk was doubled for people with between 5 to 10 nanograms per millilitre of vitamin D in their blood, even when factors such as heart disease, exercise and other conditions were taken into account, Dr Dobnig said. Most doctors believe people should have between 20 to 30 nanograms per millilitre of the vitamin in their blood, he added. It is not clear why vitamin D could have such a beneficial effect on mortality. Dr Dobnig said that the findings could help doctors become more aware of the problem in those who spend large amounts of time indoors, including the elderly and immobile. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 too bad its filtered with isinglass Peter VV Jun 25, 2008 2:43 PM Re: Vitamin D It rains beer here..... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork > Sent: Wednesday, 25 June, 2008 10:41:23 PMRe: Vitamin D  Is that when it's not raining ? :-) Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:57 PM Re: Vitamin D Should live in Gods country, we have special sun.... gives vitamin double d..... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 24 June, 2008 11:30:32 PMRe: Vitamin D  I guess so - but as you know, the Vegan Society and Stephen Walsh think you should take a supplement, because for most of the year in the UK the sun is at the wrong angle for us to manufacture enough vitamin D to keep us healthy. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:47 PM Re: Vitamin D So basically, are they just saying ............ go out more? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:45:12 PM Vitamin D People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. The vitamin, produced when the skin is exposed to sunlight, helps the body absorb calcium and is considered important for bone health. A team in Austria has found that it can also have an impact on death rates, the Archives of Internal Medicine reports. "This is the first association study that shows vitamin D affects mortality regardless of the (primary) reason for death," said Dr Harald Dobnig of the University of Graz, who led the study. Vitamin D, known as the "sunshine vitamin", is added to milk and is found in fatty fish like salmon but many people do not get enough of it. A lack of the vitamin can lead to rickets in children and osteoporosis in adults. Recent studies have indicated that it may offer a variety of other health benefits, including protecting against cancer, peripheral artery disease and tuberculosis. Last week, American researchers said vitamin D may extend the lives of people with colon and rectal cancer. Mr Dobnig and colleagues studied more than 3,200 people with an average age of 62 who were scheduled for a heart examination between 1997 and 2000. During an eight-year follow-up programme, the researchers found that the quarter of volunteers with the lowest levels of vitamin D in their blood were more likely to have died. Researchers found the risk was doubled for people with between 5 to 10 nanograms per millilitre of vitamin D in their blood, even when factors such as heart disease, exercise and other conditions were taken into account, Dr Dobnig said. Most doctors believe people should have between 20 to 30 nanograms per millilitre of the vitamin in their blood, he added. It is not clear why vitamin D could have such a beneficial effect on mortality. Dr Dobnig said that the findings could help doctors become more aware of the problem in those who spend large amounts of time indoors, including the elderly and immobile. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at “We now know that a neo-conservative is an arsonist who sets the house on fire and six years later boasts that no one can put it out.†- Bill Moyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 shall I blow a Portuguese cloud over there? so it rains Portuguese beer? :Dthat's not made with that isinglass-stuff, is it?--- On Wed, 6/25/08, fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote:fraggle <EBbrewpunxRe: Vitamin D Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 7:57 PM too bad its filtered with isinglass Peter VV Jun 25, 2008 2:43 PM @gro ups.com Re: Vitamin D It rains beer here..... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 June, 2008 10:41:23 PMRe: Vitamin D  Is that when it's not raining ? :-) Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:57 PM Re: Vitamin D Should live in Gods country, we have special sun.... gives vitamin double d..... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 24 June, 2008 11:30:32 PMRe: Vitamin D  I guess so - but as you know, the Vegan Society and Stephen Walsh think you should take a supplement, because for most of the year in the UK the sun is at the wrong angle for us to manufacture enough vitamin D to keep us healthy. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:47 PM Re: Vitamin D So basically, are they just saying ............ go out more? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:45:12 PM Vitamin D People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. The vitamin, produced when the skin is exposed to sunlight, helps the body absorb calcium and is considered important for bone health. A team in Austria has found that it can also have an impact on death rates, the Archives of Internal Medicine reports. "This is the first association study that shows vitamin D affects mortality regardless of the (primary) reason for death," said Dr Harald Dobnig of the University of Graz, who led the study. Vitamin D, known as the "sunshine vitamin", is added to milk and is found in fatty fish like salmon but many people do not get enough of it. A lack of the vitamin can lead to rickets in children and osteoporosis in adults. Recent studies have indicated that it may offer a variety of other health benefits, including protecting against cancer, peripheral artery disease and tuberculosis. Last week, American researchers said vitamin D may extend the lives of people with colon and rectal cancer. Mr Dobnig and colleagues studied more than 3,200 people with an average age of 62 who were scheduled for a heart examination between 1997 and 2000. During an eight-year follow-up programme, the researchers found that the quarter of volunteers with the lowest levels of vitamin D in their blood were more likely to have died. Researchers found the risk was doubled for people with between 5 to 10 nanograms per millilitre of vitamin D in their blood, even when factors such as heart disease, exercise and other conditions were taken into account, Dr Dobnig said. Most doctors believe people should have between 20 to 30 nanograms per millilitre of the vitamin in their blood, he added. It is not clear why vitamin D could have such a beneficial effect on mortality. Dr Dobnig said that the findings could help doctors become more aware of the problem in those who spend large amounts of time indoors, including the elderly and immobile. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at “We now know that a neo-conservative is an arsonist who sets the house on fire and six years later boasts that no one can put it out.†- Bill Moyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Just pass the razor, my wrists are ready.............. Peter vv fraggle <EBbrewpunx Sent: Thursday, 26 June, 2008 12:57:12 AMRe: Vitamin D too bad its filtered with isinglass Peter VV Jun 25, 2008 2:43 PM @gro ups.com Re: Vitamin D It rains beer here..... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comWednesday, 25 June, 2008 10:41:23 PMRe: Vitamin D  Is that when it's not raining ? :-) Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Wednesday, June 25, 2008 7:57 PM Re: Vitamin D Should live in Gods country, we have special sun.... gives vitamin double d..... Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 24 June, 2008 11:30:32 PMRe: Vitamin D  I guess so - but as you know, the Vegan Society and Stephen Walsh think you should take a supplement, because for most of the year in the UK the sun is at the wrong angle for us to manufacture enough vitamin D to keep us healthy. Jo - Peter VV @gro ups.com Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:47 PM Re: Vitamin D So basically, are they just saying ............ go out more? Peter vv jo <jo.heartwork@ gmail.com>@gro ups.comTuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:45:12 PM Vitamin D People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. People with normal levels of vitamin D in their body are more likely to live longer than those with a deficiency, researchers have discovered. The vitamin, produced when the skin is exposed to sunlight, helps the body absorb calcium and is considered important for bone health. A team in Austria has found that it can also have an impact on death rates, the Archives of Internal Medicine reports. "This is the first association study that shows vitamin D affects mortality regardless of the (primary) reason for death," said Dr Harald Dobnig of the University of Graz, who led the study. Vitamin D, known as the "sunshine vitamin", is added to milk and is found in fatty fish like salmon but many people do not get enough of it. A lack of the vitamin can lead to rickets in children and osteoporosis in adults. Recent studies have indicated that it may offer a variety of other health benefits, including protecting against cancer, peripheral artery disease and tuberculosis. Last week, American researchers said vitamin D may extend the lives of people with colon and rectal cancer. Mr Dobnig and colleagues studied more than 3,200 people with an average age of 62 who were scheduled for a heart examination between 1997 and 2000. During an eight-year follow-up programme, the researchers found that the quarter of volunteers with the lowest levels of vitamin D in their blood were more likely to have died. Researchers found the risk was doubled for people with between 5 to 10 nanograms per millilitre of vitamin D in their blood, even when factors such as heart disease, exercise and other conditions were taken into account, Dr Dobnig said. Most doctors believe people should have between 20 to 30 nanograms per millilitre of the vitamin in their blood, he added. It is not clear why vitamin D could have such a beneficial effect on mortality. Dr Dobnig said that the findings could help doctors become more aware of the problem in those who spend large amounts of time indoors, including the elderly and immobile. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Sent from Mail. A Smarter Email. Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at “We now know that a neo-conservative is an arsonist who sets the house on fire and six years later boasts that no one can put it out.†- Bill Moyers Not happy with your email address? Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 The research I have seen (which is documented here: http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/bones/#d2d3) indicates that vitamin D2 does increase vitamin D levels comparable to vitamin D3, but that they last for shorter periods in the blood (about 3 days). So if you are relying on D2, you need to take it every day or every other day. Also note that if you can’t get sunburned, your body probably isn’t making vitamin D. At this time of year in the Bay Area, only some people can get sunburned so the sun probably isn’t creating much vitamin D for the other people. Once March hits, though, almost everyone should be able to get vitamin D from the sun here. Jack Norris, Registered Dietitian Vegan Outreach VeganOutreach.org VeganHealth.org Sign up for my veg nutrition blog at: JackNorrisRD.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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