Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 someone posted this: http://www.eatsprouts.com/ Does anyone know if their automatic grass growing system works good? Also, anyone know about Samson juicers and Green Power? I have a Green-Power and it is really hard to push produce into. Im wondering how the Samson compares --------------------------- One fourth of what you eat keeps you alive. The other three-fourths keep your doctor alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 John, I just bought one of their sprouters and am not impressed. It works ok but the spray nozzles get clogged easily and water tends to pool in the low side of the sprouter. It also isn't big enough for me (I juice sprouts) as you can grow as many sprouts in 5 glass quart jars as you can with their large sprouter. That said, it's probably a better deal than the other auto sprouters available. In my opinion, the Omega 8003 is the best juicer for the money. But like the Green Power (and any other low rpm juicer) it's harder to push the veggies through. If you buy a high rpm juicer you'll sacrifice juice quality. Regards, Paul Paul Ladendorf Health Connections " More Than A Health Food Store " 219-322-7300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 The Samson is a single auger and different that the green power. Samson does make a twin gear but it's much like the green power! We used the single Samson at CHI for wheat grass and some veggies and it did pretty well! John de la Garza [john] Saturday, February 05, 2005 1:47 PM rawfood [Raw Food] wheat grass someone posted this: http://www.eatsprouts.com/ Does anyone know if their automatic grass growing system works good? Also, anyone know about Samson juicers and Green Power? I have a Green-Power and it is really hard to push produce into. Im wondering how the Samson compares --------------------------- One fourth of what you eat keeps you alive. The other three-fourths keep your doctor alive. _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Greetings John, I have one of the automatic sprouters and I find it " just o.k " to be honest! Sure it does all the hard work for you, but it does not sprout much. For the price I paid for it, I dont think it is worth it. I still have to buy my boxes of wheatgrass at the healthfood store. However having said that, if you are just wanting to sprout a couple of trays each of say sunflower and maybe alfalfa etc, then it is great. I eat sprouts like they are going out of fashion, so I want a lot! I am reverting back to the idea sorrel gave me off the website: rawfoods.com She said to use bamboo plates to sprout which I am going to use instead. I also have a " twin health " juicer which is brilliant for wheatgrass! Sure you have to push down on it, but it works well. Goodluck and blessings, Indiana. rawfood , John de la Garza <john@j...> wrote: > someone posted this: http://www.eatsprouts.com/ > > Does anyone know if their automatic grass growing system works good? > > Also, anyone know about Samson juicers and Green Power? I have a > Green-Power and it is really hard to push > produce into. Im wondering how the Samson compares > > > > --------------------------- > One fourth of what you eat keeps you alive. The other three- fourths > keep your doctor alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Can give give the exact link for sprouting with bambo plates? Goddess Indiana <goddessindiana wrote: I am reverting back to the idea sorrel gave me off the website: rawfoods.com She said to use bamboo plates to sprout which I am going to use instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Hi, I have heard that it's bad to juice wheatgrass or barley with a regular juicer or vitamix. Does anyone know anything about this? I just started growing my own with organic soil from coconuts and organic fertilizer from the organic gardening store next to Trader Joes on Decatur. I got a great crop, but I just read that a regular juicer/vitamix/high speed makes is oxidize or something like that. Have you heard anything like that..Please let me know. Thanks Gaynell Goddess Indiana <goddessindiana wrote: Greetings John, I have one of the automatic sprouters and I find it " just o.k " to be honest! Sure it does all the hard work for you, but it does not sprout much. For the price I paid for it, I dont think it is worth it. I still have to buy my boxes of wheatgrass at the healthfood store. However having said that, if you are just wanting to sprout a couple of trays each of say sunflower and maybe alfalfa etc, then it is great. I eat sprouts like they are going out of fashion, so I want a lot! I am reverting back to the idea sorrel gave me off the website: rawfoods.com She said to use bamboo plates to sprout which I am going to use instead. I also have a " twin health " juicer which is brilliant for wheatgrass! Sure you have to push down on it, but it works well. Goodluck and blessings, Indiana. rawfood , John de la Garza <john@j...> wrote: > someone posted this: http://www.eatsprouts.com/ > > Does anyone know if their automatic grass growing system works good? > > Also, anyone know about Samson juicers and Green Power? I have a > Green-Power and it is really hard to push > produce into. Im wondering how the Samson compares > > > > --------------------------- > One fourth of what you eat keeps you alive. The other three- fourths > keep your doctor alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 At Sat, 5 Feb 2005 it looks like Steven composed: > > > The Samson is a single auger and different that the green power. Samson does > make a twin gear but it's much like the green power! We used the single > Samson at CHI for wheat grass and some veggies and it did pretty well! > I agree, I've used the Samson for a few years now for my wheatgrass juice and frozen bananas w/frozen strawberries etc for desserts etc. http://www.fernsnutrition.com/samson_juicer.html -- |<---------------------- " Word-Wrap-At-72-Please " ---------------------->| Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ " UNIX, A Way Of Life. " _\_v http://billschoolcraft.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 You're right on.use a slow juicer (twin gear) or a wheat grass juicer made just for that. At OHI we had $1,200 juicers just for wheat grass..ha. Now the next question is why are you juicing wheatgrass? Or shall I say drinking it? gaynell andress [andressgaynell] Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:07 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: wheat grass Hi, I have heard that it's bad to juice wheatgrass or barley with a regular juicer or vitamix. Does anyone know anything about this? I just started growing my own with organic soil from coconuts and organic fertilizer from the organic gardening store next to Trader Joes on Decatur. I got a great crop, but I just read that a regular juicer/vitamix/high speed makes is oxidize or something like that. Have you heard anything like that..Please let me know. Thanks Gaynell Goddess Indiana <goddessindiana wrote: Greetings John, I have one of the automatic sprouters and I find it " just o.k " to be honest! Sure it does all the hard work for you, but it does not sprout much. For the price I paid for it, I dont think it is worth it. I still have to buy my boxes of wheatgrass at the healthfood store. However having said that, if you are just wanting to sprout a couple of trays each of say sunflower and maybe alfalfa etc, then it is great. I eat sprouts like they are going out of fashion, so I want a lot! I am reverting back to the idea sorrel gave me off the website: rawfoods.com She said to use bamboo plates to sprout which I am going to use instead. I also have a " twin health " juicer which is brilliant for wheatgrass! Sure you have to push down on it, but it works well. Goodluck and blessings, Indiana. rawfood , John de la Garza <john@j...> wrote: > someone posted this: http://www.eatsprouts.com/ > > Does anyone know if their automatic grass growing system works good? > > Also, anyone know about Samson juicers and Green Power? I have a > Green-Power and it is really hard to push > produce into. Im wondering how the Samson compares > > > > --------------------------- > One fourth of what you eat keeps you alive. The other three- fourths > keep your doctor alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 At Sat, 5 Feb 2005 it looks like gaynell andress composed: > > > Hi, I have heard that it's bad to juice wheatgrass or barley with a regular juicer or vitamix. Does anyone know anything about this? I just started growing my own with organic soil from coconuts and organic fertilizer from the organic gardening store next to Trader Joes on Decatur. I got a great crop, but I just read that a regular juicer/vitamix/high speed makes is oxidize or something like that. Have you heard anything like that..Please let me know. > The reason that a " regular " juicers are bad is that they use extreme speed/friction and that actually heats up the juice at the point of contact with the machinery. It's just plain too brutal with the energy force of the vibrant juice. The other " good " juicers have auger type " corkscrew " type bit that does not turn faster than 90 rpm and just gently presses the juice out. Here is the " low " speed juicer I use: http://www.fernsnutrition.com/samson_juicer.html -- |<---------------------- " Word-Wrap-At-72-Please " ---------------------->| Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ " UNIX, A Way Of Life. " _\_v http://billschoolcraft.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Thaks so much for your feedback..I also contacted the Organic Gardening store where I got my wheatgrass seeds and they have a hand juicer for wheatgrass that is only $45.oo. I am going to go check it out and I will check out the website you gave me too.. Gaynell Bill Schoolcraft <bill wrote: At Sat, 5 Feb 2005 it looks like gaynell andress composed: > > > Hi, I have heard that it's bad to juice wheatgrass or barley with a regular juicer or vitamix. Does anyone know anything about this? I just started growing my own with organic soil from coconuts and organic fertilizer from the organic gardening store next to Trader Joes on Decatur. I got a great crop, but I just read that a regular juicer/vitamix/high speed makes is oxidize or something like that. Have you heard anything like that..Please let me know. > The reason that a " regular " juicers are bad is that they use extreme speed/friction and that actually heats up the juice at the point of contact with the machinery. It's just plain too brutal with the energy force of the vibrant juice. The other " good " juicers have auger type " corkscrew " type bit that does not turn faster than 90 rpm and just gently presses the juice out. Here is the " low " speed juicer I use: http://www.fernsnutrition.com/samson_juicer.html -- |<---------------------- " Word-Wrap-At-72-Please " ---------------------->| Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ " UNIX, A Way Of Life. " _\_v http://billschoolcraft.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 On Feb 5, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Paul Ladendorf wrote: > > > John, > > I just bought one of their sprouters and am not impressed. It works ok > but the spray nozzles get clogged easily and water tends to pool in > the low side of the sprouter. It also isn't big enough for me (I juice > sprouts) as you can grow as many sprouts in 5 glass quart jars as you > can with their large sprouter. That said, it's probably a better deal > than the other auto sprouters av I guess my real question is which juicer is easier to use, a twin gear or a single auger type. I have a greenpower and was wondering if a single auger type would be much easier to use or if I should just stay with my greenpower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 I have the L'equip Visor juicer. It is identical to the Samson except it is a nicer design (cosmetically). I used a Samson juicer at one of the raw food institutes this past summer for two weeks and the parts, the way you use it and put it together, etc. are exactly the same. The only difference is that the L'equip Visor is cheaper and prettier. It also has a great warranty that I believe beats the Samson. I use it to juice everything, literally. My sister has a Champion juicer and I prefer it when juicing carrots or shredding a couple heads of cabbage for sauerkraut because it can handle a lot and goes a bit faster, although, it won't juice wheatgrass and doesn't do as well with greens. It's also a snap to clean up. My 9 year old has been using it since she was 7 and has no problem and the cleanup time is about a minute or two. I would highly recommend it. About growing wheatgrass: I have an EasyGreen sprouter and I love it. I use it to grow alfalfa, broccoli and other sprouts in the small trays. I rotate them so I have a new tray each day. It grows wheatgrass great but you have to take it out for the last several days as it gets to long for the EasyGreen. I prefer to grow my wheatgrass in soil. I do it indoors in trays or put it out on my porch when the weather is acceptable. It seems like a lot of work but in reality is very easy -- just as easy really as a sprouter. I mean I have to fill the Easy Green with water once a day and I have to water my wheatgrass trays once a day...same effort. The only difference is an extra step of spreading the soil in the tray before you start which takes just a few seconds. I purchased the plans to the sprouter at eatsprouts.com but I have found her website to be a mess. It is very confusing. I was disappointed. My brother-in-law is considering wading through the pages and building one but the parts alone cost over $100. I bought my EasyGreen for under $150. Also, you have to hook it up to a water supply which for me would be inconvenient. Another thing to consider is that, if grown in soil, the wheatgrass pulls the minerals from the soil. I add some Azomite to my soil which has every mineral so the wheatgrass is very mineral rich. Although, I think you can buy a liquid Azomite to add to the water if you are growing it with water only. You could also use a liquid kelp fertilizer to add minerals. Thanks, Jennifer > Does anyone know if their automatic grass growing system works good? > > Also, anyone know about Samson juicers and Green Power? I have a > Green-Power and it is really hard to push > produce into. Im wondering how the Samson compares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Yes. That's true. You need to use a juicer that is slow (about 100 RPM) and " squeezes " the juice out of the grass. Nutrients can be destroyed by friction, heat, or oxidation. When juicing grasses you want to use a juicer that has a juicing screw or " auger " . Some have one and some have two. The Samson, L'Equip Visor, Omega & SoloStar are some single auger juicers. Green Star, Green Power and Samson Ultra dare some examples of twin gear juicers. The twin gears are more expensive and don't do quite as good a job on the grasses but may be quicker when doing harder veggies like carrots. The single augers on the other hand do the best job on grasses and can handle any fruit or veggie. I would recommend one of the single augers. I have the L'Equip which is probably the least expensive and I love it! I've used others and in my opinion it's a nicer juicer. I think it's the lesser known and that's why it costs less. It also has a fabulous warranty. If you already have a good juicer but it just won't do grasses (like the Champion juicer, for example) you may want to consider a manual grass juicer. My sister uses one and it gives off the driest pulp I have ever seen. It's a very, very good juicer. The downside, of course, is that it's more work than an electric. The upside is that the manual ones are very inexpensive and very effective. Some sites (like wheatgrasskits.com) will let you purchase a manual juicer and then later trade it in for an electric one if you don't want to spend so much to begin with. Thanks, Jennifer rawfood , gaynell andress <andressgaynell> wrote: > > Hi, I have heard that it's bad to juice wheatgrass or barley with a regular juicer or vitamix. Does anyone know anything about this? I just started growing my own with organic soil from coconuts and organic fertilizer from the organic gardening store next to Trader Joes on Decatur. I got a great crop, but I just read that a regular juicer/vitamix/high speed makes is oxidize or something like that. Have you heard anything like that. Please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Thanks for your input..I got a small juicer today at the Organic Gardening SuperCenter in Trader Joes Plaza to do my wheatgrass. The reason that I am juicing it is because a friend recommended that I do it, so I did..Gaynell Steven <rawfasting wrote: You're right on.use a slow juicer (twin gear) or a wheat grass juicer made just for that. At OHI we had $1,200 juicers just for wheat grass..ha. Now the next question is why are you juicing wheatgrass? Or shall I say drinking it? gaynell andress [andressgaynell] Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:07 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: wheat grass Hi, I have heard that it's bad to juice wheatgrass or barley with a regular juicer or vitamix. Does anyone know anything about this? I just started growing my own with organic soil from coconuts and organic fertilizer from the organic gardening store next to Trader Joes on Decatur. I got a great crop, but I just read that a regular juicer/vitamix/high speed makes is oxidize or something like that. Have you heard anything like that..Please let me know. Thanks Gaynell Goddess Indiana <goddessindiana wrote: Greetings John, I have one of the automatic sprouters and I find it " just o.k " to be honest! Sure it does all the hard work for you, but it does not sprout much. For the price I paid for it, I dont think it is worth it. I still have to buy my boxes of wheatgrass at the healthfood store. However having said that, if you are just wanting to sprout a couple of trays each of say sunflower and maybe alfalfa etc, then it is great. I eat sprouts like they are going out of fashion, so I want a lot! I am reverting back to the idea sorrel gave me off the website: rawfoods.com She said to use bamboo plates to sprout which I am going to use instead. I also have a " twin health " juicer which is brilliant for wheatgrass! Sure you have to push down on it, but it works well. Goodluck and blessings, Indiana. rawfood , John de la Garza <john@j...> wrote: > someone posted this: http://www.eatsprouts.com/ > > Does anyone know if their automatic grass growing system works good? > > Also, anyone know about Samson juicers and Green Power? I have a > Green-Power and it is really hard to push > produce into. Im wondering how the Samson compares > > > > --------------------------- > One fourth of what you eat keeps you alive. The other three- fourths > keep your doctor alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Steven, May I ask why you asked me why is was juicing Wheatgrass? Gaynell gaynell andress <andressgaynell wrote: Thanks for your input..I got a small juicer today at the Organic Gardening SuperCenter in Trader Joes Plaza to do my wheatgrass. The reason that I am juicing it is because a friend recommended that I do it, so I did..Gaynell Steven <rawfasting wrote: You're right on.use a slow juicer (twin gear) or a wheat grass juicer made just for that. At OHI we had $1,200 juicers just for wheat grass..ha. Now the next question is why are you juicing wheatgrass? Or shall I say drinking it? gaynell andress [andressgaynell] Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:07 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Re: wheat grass Hi, I have heard that it's bad to juice wheatgrass or barley with a regular juicer or vitamix. Does anyone know anything about this? I just started growing my own with organic soil from coconuts and organic fertilizer from the organic gardening store next to Trader Joes on Decatur. I got a great crop, but I just read that a regular juicer/vitamix/high speed makes is oxidize or something like that. Have you heard anything like that..Please let me know. Thanks Gaynell Goddess Indiana <goddessindiana wrote: Greetings John, I have one of the automatic sprouters and I find it " just o.k " to be honest! Sure it does all the hard work for you, but it does not sprout much. For the price I paid for it, I dont think it is worth it. I still have to buy my boxes of wheatgrass at the healthfood store. However having said that, if you are just wanting to sprout a couple of trays each of say sunflower and maybe alfalfa etc, then it is great. I eat sprouts like they are going out of fashion, so I want a lot! I am reverting back to the idea sorrel gave me off the website: rawfoods.com She said to use bamboo plates to sprout which I am going to use instead. I also have a " twin health " juicer which is brilliant for wheatgrass! Sure you have to push down on it, but it works well. Goodluck and blessings, Indiana. rawfood , John de la Garza <john@j...> wrote: > someone posted this: http://www.eatsprouts.com/ > > Does anyone know if their automatic grass growing system works good? > > Also, anyone know about Samson juicers and Green Power? I have a > Green-Power and it is really hard to push > produce into. Im wondering how the Samson compares > > > > --------------------------- > One fourth of what you eat keeps you alive. The other three- fourths > keep your doctor alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Hi, Thanks for your reply..I did just that and purchased one at the Organic Gardening Super Center in the Trader Joes Plaza yesterday..It worked well..$46.00..I like it and thanks again for the info. GAynell ariesred13 <JenniferLyon wrote: Yes. That's true. You need to use a juicer that is slow (about 100 RPM) and " squeezes " the juice out of the grass. Nutrients can be destroyed by friction, heat, or oxidation. When juicing grasses you want to use a juicer that has a juicing screw or " auger " . Some have one and some have two. The Samson, L'Equip Visor, Omega & SoloStar are some single auger juicers. Green Star, Green Power and Samson Ultra dare some examples of twin gear juicers. The twin gears are more expensive and don't do quite as good a job on the grasses but may be quicker when doing harder veggies like carrots. The single augers on the other hand do the best job on grasses and can handle any fruit or veggie. I would recommend one of the single augers. I have the L'Equip which is probably the least expensive and I love it! I've used others and in my opinion it's a nicer juicer. I think it's the lesser known and that's why it costs less. It also has a fabulous warranty. If you already have a good juicer but it just won't do grasses (like the Champion juicer, for example) you may want to consider a manual grass juicer. My sister uses one and it gives off the driest pulp I have ever seen. It's a very, very good juicer. The downside, of course, is that it's more work than an electric. The upside is that the manual ones are very inexpensive and very effective. Some sites (like wheatgrasskits.com) will let you purchase a manual juicer and then later trade it in for an electric one if you don't want to spend so much to begin with. Thanks, Jennifer rawfood , gaynell andress <andressgaynell> wrote: > > Hi, I have heard that it's bad to juice wheatgrass or barley with a regular juicer or vitamix. Does anyone know anything about this? I just started growing my own with organic soil from coconuts and organic fertilizer from the organic gardening store next to Trader Joes on Decatur. I got a great crop, but I just read that a regular juicer/vitamix/high speed makes is oxidize or something like that. Have you heard anything like that. Please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 " Why is was, " not good beanglish. rawfood , gaynell andress <andressgaynell> wrote: > > Steven, > May I ask why you asked me why is was juicing Wheatgrass? > Gaynell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 That is so funny..I meant why did you ask why I was juicing wheatgrass and drinking it.. Froggy <seconaphim wrote: " Why is was, " not good beanglish. rawfood , gaynell andress <andressgaynell> wrote: > > Steven, > May I ask why you asked me why is was juicing Wheatgrass? > Gaynell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Yea, later I thought of " good not English. " rawfood , gaynell andress <andressgaynell> wrote: > > That is so funny..I meant why did you ask why I was juicing wheatgrass and drinking it.. > > Froggy <seconaphim> wrote: > " Why is was, " not good beanglish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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