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Hi " Swing " ,

 

The last time I ate in Quintessence (when I visited NYC, now that I live in

Florida), the burger was not just a burger, and was not, as you call it " itty

bitty. " It had a bun and lots of toppings and sauces. It was delicious and

filling and came with a salad. I think $12 is not a bad price for something

made of top quality (organic) ingredients and that tastes so good. To make

something like this for yourself would take hours of work. And how easy would

it be

to make a dehydrated bun, and raw mayo, mustard and ketchup? They serve

salad with the burger because the burger itself is dense, and the salad balances

it out by having more water content. It you ate the burger with flax crackers

instead of the salad, you would be getting all dense food and not enough water

content.

 

Judy Pokras

Editor/Founder

www.rawfoodsnewsmagazine.com

An online magazine--founded in March 2001 as rawfoodsnews.com--celebrating

the raw foods lifestyle with authoritative info, breaking news, and fun

features. You'll find raw food recipes, celebrity news, sections for parents and

kids,

regional listings, book reviews, a free e-mail newsletter you can

to and lots more!

 

 

In a message dated 2/9/2005 12:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

swingbolder writes:

 

Hi all,

 

I dipped into New York City on Monday and went to

Quintessence, a raw restaurant in the East Village. I

had my mouth set on a burger since I hadn't had any

since going raw. Anyway, it was delicious (sprouted

grains I believe) and so was the mustard/mayo thing

they had on the side. I wasn't pleased about the price

though -- $12 -- especially bc it was a very small

size, much smaller than a Boca Burger or a McDonald's

hamburger. For twelve bucks I expected more. I was

also annoyed that they wouldn't substitute flax

crackers for the salad that came with it. . . I eat

salads at home all the time so I wanted something

different.

 

Anyhow, their other dishes looked delicious as well

but also similarly-portioned. I was planning to make

that a dinner stop since I'll be in the city every

Monday anyway but now I don't think so -- too

expensive, not enough food. Must not bother other

folks though bc business is going well it seems;

they've opened two other locations in other parts of

the city.

 

Has anyone visited other raw restaurants? What are the

prices like? Does $12 for an itty bitty burger seem

expensive to you or am I just tripping? :-)

 

swing

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi all,

 

I dipped into New York City on Monday and went to

Quintessence, a raw restaurant in the East Village. I

had my mouth set on a burger since I hadn't had any

since going raw. Anyway, it was delicious (sprouted

grains I believe) and so was the mustard/mayo thing

they had on the side. I wasn't pleased about the price

though -- $12 -- especially bc it was a very small

size, much smaller than a Boca Burger or a McDonald's

hamburger. For twelve bucks I expected more. I was

also annoyed that they wouldn't substitute flax

crackers for the salad that came with it. . . I eat

salads at home all the time so I wanted something

different.

 

Anyhow, their other dishes looked delicious as well

but also similarly-portioned. I was planning to make

that a dinner stop since I'll be in the city every

Monday anyway but now I don't think so -- too

expensive, not enough food. Must not bother other

folks though bc business is going well it seems;

they've opened two other locations in other parts of

the city.

 

Has anyone visited other raw restaurants? What are the

prices like? Does $12 for an itty bitty burger seem

expensive to you or am I just tripping? :-)

 

swing

 

 

 

 

 

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No offence, but I'm sure Quintessence did not deny him/her the flax

crackers because he wouldn't get the right amount of water content.

That would be his own business anyway. It could explaing why they

designed the dish that way, but not why they wouldn't make a

substitution. Just my $0.02 worth. Lane

 

 

The last time I ate in Quintessence (when I visited NYC, now that I live

in <BR>

Florida), the burger was not just a burger, and was not, as you call it &

quot;itty <BR>

bitty. & quot; & nbsp; It had a bun and lots of toppings and sauces. & nbsp;

It was delicious and <BR>

filling and came with a salad. & nbsp; I think $12 is not a bad price for

something <BR>

made of top quality (organic) ingredients and that tastes so good. To

make <BR>

something like this for yourself would take hours of work. & nbsp; And

how easy would it be <BR>

to make a dehydrated bun, and raw mayo, mustard and ketchup? &

nbsp; They serve <BR>

salad with the burger because the burger itself is dense, and the salad

balances <BR>

it out by having more water content. & nbsp; It you ate the burger with

flax crackers <BR>

instead of the salad, you would be getting all dense food and not

enough water <BR>

content.<BR>

<BR>

Judy Pokras<BR>

Editor/Founder<BR>

www.rawfoodsnewsmagazine.com<BR>

An online magazine--founded in March 2001 as rawfoodsnews.com--

celebrating <BR>

the raw foods lifestyle with authoritative info, breaking news, and fun <

BR>

features. You'll find raw food recipes, celebrity news, sections for

parents and kids, <BR>

regional listings, book reviews, a free e-mail newsletter you can

<BR>

to and lots more!<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

In a message dated 2/9/2005 12:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, <

BR>

swingbolder writes:<BR>

<BR>

Hi all,<BR>

<BR>

I dipped into New York City on Monday and went to<BR>

Quintessence, a raw restaurant in the East Village. I<BR>

had my mouth set on a burger since I hadn't had any<BR>

since going raw. Anyway, it was delicious (sprouted<BR>

grains I believe) and so was the mustard/mayo thing<BR>

they had on the side. I wasn't pleased about the price<BR>

though -- $12 -- especially bc it was a very small<BR>

size, much smaller than a Boca Burger or a McDonald's<BR>

hamburger. For twelve bucks I expected more. I was<BR>

also annoyed that they wouldn't substitute flax<BR>

crackers for the salad that came with it. . . I eat<BR>

salads at home all the time so I wanted something<BR>

different. <BR>

<BR>

Anyhow, their other dishes looked delicious as well<BR>

but also similarly-portioned. I was planning to make<BR>

that a dinner stop since I'll be in the city every<BR>

Monday anyway but now I don't think so -- too<BR>

expensive, not enough food. Must not bother other<BR>

folks though bc business is going well it seems;<BR>

they've opened two other locations in other parts of<BR>

the city.<BR>

<BR>

Has anyone visited other raw restaurants? What are the<BR>

prices like? Does $12 for an itty bitty burger seem<BR>

expensive to you or am I just tripping? :-)<BR>

<BR>

swing<BR>

<BR>

<BR>

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<BR>

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I visited Quintessence last summer, and also found that although the

food was good, the prices were very high. If some of the items use

ingredients like lot of cashews, almonds, etc., I can see the price

being high, but for other items like salads, there doesn't seem too

much of a justification for the higher prices, except their high

rent, other business expenses, etc., and the fact that people are

willing to pay those higher prices. Maybe an alternative would be

to have a veggie juice, or a smoothie, at a juice bar. It is pretty

filling, has great nutrition, and is quick. New York City has many

more places where we could have a fresh veggie juice, than have a

raw meal, like at Quintessence.

 

Jack

 

 

rawfood , swing bolder <swingbolder>

wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> I dipped into New York City on Monday and went to

> Quintessence, a raw restaurant in the East Village. I

> had my mouth set on a burger since I hadn't had any

> since going raw. Anyway, it was delicious (sprouted

> grains I believe) and so was the mustard/mayo thing

> they had on the side. I wasn't pleased about the price

> though -- $12 -- especially bc it was a very small

> size, much smaller than a Boca Burger or a McDonald's

> hamburger. For twelve bucks I expected more. I was

> also annoyed that they wouldn't substitute flax

> crackers for the salad that came with it. . . I eat

> salads at home all the time so I wanted something

> different.

>

> Anyhow, their other dishes looked delicious as well

> but also similarly-portioned. I was planning to make

> that a dinner stop since I'll be in the city every

> Monday anyway but now I don't think so -- too

> expensive, not enough food. Must not bother other

> folks though bc business is going well it seems;

> they've opened two other locations in other parts of

> the city.

>

> Has anyone visited other raw restaurants? What are the

> prices like? Does $12 for an itty bitty burger seem

> expensive to you or am I just tripping? :-)

>

> swing

>

>

>

>

>

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No need to take it personally. . . to each their own I

guess. To me the burger was itty bitty (smaller in

diameter than a Boca burger) and I like to feel

satisfied after I have a meal out. I would have loved

to have eaten another one, but that would have put me

out $24, and then I really would have felt ripped off.

Also, I didn't need salad to balance it out, I eat

plenty of salad as it is. Restaurants that don't make

any subsitutions on side dishes -- esp. when their

portions are small -- don't get my return business.

Esp. when there's not much on the menu to begin with.

 

swing

 

--- vegwriter wrote:

 

> Hi " Swing " ,

>

> The last time I ate in Quintessence (when I visited

> NYC, now that I live in

> Florida), the burger was not just a burger, and was

> not, as you call it " itty

> bitty. " It had a bun and lots of toppings and

> sauces. It was delicious and

> filling and came with a salad. I think $12 is not a

> bad price for something

> made of top quality (organic) ingredients and that

> tastes so good. To make

> something like this for yourself would take hours of

> work. And how easy would it be

> to make a dehydrated bun, and raw mayo, mustard and

> ketchup? They serve

> salad with the burger because the burger itself is

> dense, and the salad balances

> it out by having more water content. It you ate the

> burger with flax crackers

> instead of the salad, you would be getting all dense

> food and not enough water

> content.

>

> Judy Pokras

> Editor/Founder

> www.rawfoodsnewsmagazine.com

> An online magazine--founded in March 2001 as

> rawfoodsnews.com--celebrating

> the raw foods lifestyle with authoritative info,

> breaking news, and fun

> features. You'll find raw food recipes, celebrity

> news, sections for parents and kids,

> regional listings, book reviews, a free e-mail

> newsletter you can

> to and lots more!

>

>

> In a message dated 2/9/2005 12:23:21 PM Eastern

> Standard Time,

> swingbolder writes:

>

> Hi all,

>

> I dipped into New York City on Monday and went to

> Quintessence, a raw restaurant in the East Village.

> I

> had my mouth set on a burger since I hadn't had any

> since going raw. Anyway, it was delicious (sprouted

> grains I believe) and so was the mustard/mayo thing

> they had on the side. I wasn't pleased about the

> price

> though -- $12 -- especially bc it was a very small

> size, much smaller than a Boca Burger or a

> McDonald's

> hamburger. For twelve bucks I expected more. I was

> also annoyed that they wouldn't substitute flax

> crackers for the salad that came with it. . . I eat

> salads at home all the time so I wanted something

> different.

>

> Anyhow, their other dishes looked delicious as well

> but also similarly-portioned. I was planning to make

> that a dinner stop since I'll be in the city every

> Monday anyway but now I don't think so -- too

> expensive, not enough food. Must not bother other

> folks though bc business is going well it seems;

> they've opened two other locations in other parts of

> the city.

>

> Has anyone visited other raw restaurants? What are

> the

> prices like? Does $12 for an itty bitty burger seem

> expensive to you or am I just tripping? :-)

>

> swing

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I will probably end up carrying a day's worth of food

with me during my weekly forays into the city. I

figure if I'm going to pay $12 for a burger I should

at least be satisfied when I walk out of there!

Delicious recipes though. . . they oughtta put out a

cookbook.

 

swing

 

--- jacksquilts2005 <jacksquilts2005 wrote:

 

> I visited Quintessence last summer, and also found

> that although the

> food was good, the prices were very high. If some

> of the items use

> ingredients like lot of cashews, almonds, etc., I

> can see the price

> being high, but for other items like salads, there

> doesn't seem too

> much of a justification for the higher prices,

> except their high

> rent, other business expenses, etc., and the fact

> that people are

> willing to pay those higher prices. Maybe an

> alternative would be

> to have a veggie juice, or a smoothie, at a juice

> bar. It is pretty

> filling, has great nutrition, and is quick. New

> York City has many

> more places where we could have a fresh veggie

> juice, than have a

> raw meal, like at Quintessence.

>

> Jack

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tell John, the waiter, (at the Amsterdam restaurant) to double it up, and he

will only charge you $6 for the extra burger, for a total of $18. I call it the

" hungry-man deluxe burger. "

Sound like a lot? Wait until you try and make all the elements needed to put

this dish together! You learn respect for the patience it takes... it's well

worth it, I think, and money well spent. I always throw any considerations about

the cost over into the " What's My Health Worth? " column and forget about it. I

think a visit there a religious experience. >:)

 

Are you driving down there on Monday nights for the Raw Food meetings?

 

Jesse

Connecticut

 

swing bolder <swingbolder wrote:

 

No need to take it personally. . . to each their own I

guess. To me the burger was itty bitty (smaller in

diameter than a Boca burger) and I like to feel

satisfied after I have a meal out. I would have loved

to have eaten another one, but that would have put me

out $24, and then I really would have felt ripped off.

Also, I didn't need salad to balance it out, I eat

plenty of salad as it is. Restaurants that don't make

any subsitutions on side dishes -- esp. when their

portions are small -- don't get my return business.

Esp. when there's not much on the menu to begin with.

 

swing

 

 

 

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We have a restaurant here in Santa Fe - Whole Body Cafe that has a raw

food chef and they always have a raw lasagna, raw pizza, raw burger,

(all served with salad), raw soup, some raw desserts and a special du

jour. Also a variety of freshly juiced combos. All the raw plates are

$10.95, a mixed veg, sprout and nut salad is $8.95. Everything is very

good but a meal for two is not cheap so we do not go there as often as

I would like - plus there is not a lot of variety.

 

However, although I know how to make the raw lasagna from a raw foods

class I took I have yet to make one myself. It is very time consuming

and expensive to make. A lot of ingredients to buy as well. So,

because it is not something I would make at home I don't mind the price

so much because it is an occasional treat. Actually, I think

everything is more expensive in New York so I don't think the price is

so bad. But maybe if I saw the size I might not think so - my husband

got the raw burger and it was a generous serving, I think he had a hard

time finishing it all.

 

I am very happy though that we finally are starting to have some raw

foods available when we want to eat out, that is still a major plus in

my book.

 

Christine

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Nope, I study music and have a workshop in Brooklyn

every Monday. Thanks for the tip about the extra

burger.

 

swing

 

--- Jesse Parris <studio53 wrote:

 

I always

> throw any considerations about the cost over into

> the " What's My Health Worth? " column and forget

> about it. I think a visit there a religious

> experience. >:)

>

> Are you driving down there on Monday nights for the

> Raw Food meetings?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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$10.95 for a plate sounds very reasonable.

 

I'm from NYC so I'm used to the prices. . . it was

easier being a regular vegan though. Just walk over to

" Indian Row " on East 6th street and eat good Indian

food -- appetizer, drink, main course and bread -- for

less than fifteen dollars.

 

swing

 

--- Christine Cassidy <christinecassidy

wrote:

 

> We have a restaurant here in Santa Fe - Whole Body

> Cafe that has a raw

> food chef and they always have a raw lasagna, raw

> pizza, raw burger,

> (all served with salad), raw soup, some raw desserts

> and a special du

> jour. Also a variety of freshly juiced combos. All

> the raw plates are

> $10.95, a mixed veg, sprout and nut salad is $8.95.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi,

I think that's a good price..It's more expensive here at our cafe here in Las

Vegas..I think tit's more like $12.00 for the lasagnae.

Gaynell

 

Christine Cassidy <christinecassidy wrote:

We have a restaurant here in Santa Fe - Whole Body Cafe that has a raw

food chef and they always have a raw lasagna, raw pizza, raw burger,

(all served with salad), raw soup, some raw desserts and a special du

jour. Also a variety of freshly juiced combos. All the raw plates are

$10.95, a mixed veg, sprout and nut salad is $8.95. Everything is very

good but a meal for two is not cheap so we do not go there as often as

I would like - plus there is not a lot of variety.

 

However, although I know how to make the raw lasagna from a raw foods

class I took I have yet to make one myself. It is very time consuming

and expensive to make. A lot of ingredients to buy as well. So,

because it is not something I would make at home I don't mind the price

so much because it is an occasional treat. Actually, I think

everything is more expensive in New York so I don't think the price is

so bad. But maybe if I saw the size I might not think so - my husband

got the raw burger and it was a generous serving, I think he had a hard

time finishing it all.

 

I am very happy though that we finally are starting to have some raw

foods available when we want to eat out, that is still a major plus in

my book.

 

Christine

 

 

 

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speaking of raw restaurants in NYC, has anyone been to Caravan of

Dreams (?). Any reviews?

 

rawfood , " Helene Lynn " <lanie@p...> wrote:

> No offence, but I'm sure Quintessence did not deny him/her the flax

> crackers because he wouldn't get the right amount of water content.

> That would be his own business anyway. It could explaing why they

> designed the dish that way, but not why they wouldn't make a

> substitution. Just my $0.02 worth. Lane

>

>

> The last time I ate in Quintessence (when I visited NYC, now that I

live

> in <BR>

> Florida), the burger was not just a burger, and was not, as you call

it &

> quot;itty <BR>

> bitty. & quot; & nbsp; It had a bun and lots of toppings and sauces. & nbsp;

> It was delicious and <BR>

> filling and came with a salad. & nbsp; I think $12 is not a bad price for

> something <BR>

> made of top quality (organic) ingredients and that tastes so good. To

> make <BR>

> something like this for yourself would take hours of work. & nbsp; And

> how easy would it be <BR>

> to make a dehydrated bun, and raw mayo, mustard and ketchup? &

> nbsp; They serve <BR>

> salad with the burger because the burger itself is dense, and the salad

> balances <BR>

> it out by having more water content. & nbsp; It you ate the burger with

> flax crackers <BR>

> instead of the salad, you would be getting all dense food and not

> enough water <BR>

> content.<BR>

> <BR>

> Judy Pokras<BR>

> Editor/Founder<BR>

> www.rawfoodsnewsmagazine.com<BR>

> An online magazine--founded in March 2001 as rawfoodsnews.com--

> celebrating <BR>

> the raw foods lifestyle with authoritative info, breaking news, and

fun <

> BR>

> features. You'll find raw food recipes, celebrity news, sections for

> parents and kids, <BR>

> regional listings, book reviews, a free e-mail newsletter you can

> <BR>

> to and lots more!<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> In a message dated 2/9/2005 12:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, <

> BR>

> swingbolder writes:<BR>

> <BR>

> Hi all,<BR>

> <BR>

> I dipped into New York City on Monday and went to<BR>

> Quintessence, a raw restaurant in the East Village. I<BR>

> had my mouth set on a burger since I hadn't had any<BR>

> since going raw. Anyway, it was delicious (sprouted<BR>

> grains I believe) and so was the mustard/mayo thing<BR>

> they had on the side. I wasn't pleased about the price<BR>

> though -- $12 -- especially bc it was a very small<BR>

> size, much smaller than a Boca Burger or a McDonald's<BR>

> hamburger. For twelve bucks I expected more. I was<BR>

> also annoyed that they wouldn't substitute flax<BR>

> crackers for the salad that came with it. . . I eat<BR>

> salads at home all the time so I wanted something<BR>

> different. <BR>

> <BR>

> Anyhow, their other dishes looked delicious as well<BR>

> but also similarly-portioned. I was planning to make<BR>

> that a dinner stop since I'll be in the city every<BR>

> Monday anyway but now I don't think so -- too<BR>

> expensive, not enough food. Must not bother other<BR>

> folks though bc business is going well it seems;<BR>

> they've opened two other locations in other parts of<BR>

> the city.<BR>

> <BR>

> Has anyone visited other raw restaurants? What are the<BR>

> prices like? Does $12 for an itty bitty burger seem<BR>

> expensive to you or am I just tripping? :-)<BR>

> <BR>

> swing<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

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speaking of raw restaurants in NYC, has anyone been to Caravan Dreams (?). 

Any reviews<

 

OK I've been to Caravan of Dreams and it was great. They do serve cooked

vegan food as well so you can go there with a non raw friend. I saw lots of

dishes with these amazing looking fresh sunflower seed sprouts and lovely

greens. I've had a good raw choc shake of some sort there too. Nice

atomosphere, good food. I't s a bit far for me and out of the way, but love

it when I get there. Lane

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I got food poisoning at Caravan from something raw. And so did a friend

eating something different on a different day. Caravan doesn't always meet

health

dept. inspections.

 

In a message dated 2/12/2005 12:38:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

swingbolder writes:

 

I went there in the late 90s when they first opened.

It's not totally raw but they have several raw

recipes. I do remember enjoying the food.

 

swing

 

--- Michael <resolver33 wrote:

 

>

>

> speaking of raw restaurants in NYC, has anyone been

> to Caravan of

> Dreams (?). Any reviews?

 

 

 

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Hi Michael,

 

I have been to Caravan of Dreams a number of times. Their menu includes raw

appetizers, entrees and desserts. They also serve vegan cooked food. It is a

great place to bring family members and friends who are not ready to eat a

100% raw meal, or who may not be vegetarian at all yet. I took my teenage

son, who is not a vegetarian, there last year, and he was surprised at how

much he enjoyed the food!

Caravan of Dreams has a really colorful, warm, and friendly atmosphere, and

they frequently have live music in the evenings too.

 

Francesca

 

> " Michael " <resolver33

>rawfood

>rawfood

>Re: [Raw Food] Quintessence Restaurant

>Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:21:40 -0000

>

>

>

>speaking of raw restaurants in NYC, has anyone been to Caravan of

>Dreams (?). Any reviews?

>

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I went there in the late 90s when they first opened.

It's not totally raw but they have several raw

recipes. I do remember enjoying the food.

 

swing

 

--- Michael <resolver33 wrote:

 

>

>

> speaking of raw restaurants in NYC, has anyone been

> to Caravan of

> Dreams (?). Any reviews?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I been to Caravan quite a few times, but they don't have a " burger " on the

menu constantly like Quintessence does, so I stopped going there.

 

By the way, the first Raw Food group from Meetup.com was yesterday at

Quinntessence on 10th and seven people showed up. It was lots of fun! We ate

and talked; no format other than that.

 

The next RF Meetup is going to be a Caravan, though,

 

Jesse

 

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<rawfood >

Saturday, February 12, 2005 10:59 AM

Re: [Raw Food] Quintessence Restaurant

 

 

> Hi Michael,

> I have been to Caravan of Dreams a number of times.

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I know because I looked into it after I got fod poisoning from something I

ate there.

 

In a message dated 2/13/2005 8:49:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

swingbolder writes:

 

Yikes, thanks for the heads-up. How do you know

they've failed health dept. inspections? I remember

that periodically the NY Daily News used to do

articles on this topic, and list all the local

restaurants that were cited with violations.

 

swing

 

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> I got food poisoning at Caravan from something raw.

> And so did a friend

> eating something different on a different day.

> Caravan doesn't always meet health

> dept. inspections.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Yikes, thanks for the heads-up. How do you know

they've failed health dept. inspections? I remember

that periodically the NY Daily News used to do

articles on this topic, and list all the local

restaurants that were cited with violations.

 

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--- vegwriter wrote:

 

> I got food poisoning at Caravan from something raw.

> And so did a friend

> eating something different on a different day.

> Caravan doesn't always meet health

> dept. inspections.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The all-new My - What will yours do?

 

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By the way, the first Raw Food group from Meetup.com was yesterday at<BR>

Quinntessence on 10th and seven people showed up. It was lots of fun! We

ate<BR>

and talked; no format other than thatThe next RF Meetup is going to be a

Caravan, though,<BR>

Jesse

When is the next one? I'll be back in NYC sometime in March. Thanks Lane

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