RE: Seeking Meeting Foods suggestions (for Standard American Diet ... [s]

[Guest guest]

I find this conversation interesting. I routinely bring my own food and

water into restaurants. I simply tell them that my doctor is put me on a

very special diet. If they inquire further, I explain that it is zero salt

(which they cannot do), extremely low acid (as no vinegar), or a few other

things. Only once in many years has a restaurant objected in any serious

way, and that restaurant is out of business anyway. I generally bring simple

foods -- bananas, my own tomatoes/avocados to put on a salad -- and so

forth. And I am NEVER uncomfortable.

 

I accept the others as they are now, not as I wish they would become, as I

have learned that I can only change or control myself, and even, that not

perfectly so. I am there for the people/circumstances, not for the food.

 

Elchanan

 

 

vegwriter [vegwriter]

Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:20 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Seeking Meeting Foods suggestions (for Standard

American Diet ...

Hi Marjorie,

Good for you for taking action!

This is a challenge for sure.

Last year my then-boss threw a holiday " party " for his few employees and

some

of his clients. (Because he was too cheap to give bonuses.) He held the

party in a small room of a local restaurant. As you can guess, all they

served was

carnivorous food. Knowing in advance that this would be the case, I told the

boss that I had some raw chef friends who were willing to provide free hors

d'oeuvres and desserts. He said no, that the restaurant wouldn't want any

food

brought in. I had to go to the party for political reasons. But it was most

uncomfortable. I sat there pretending to enjoy a plate of iceberg lettuce

and a

few cucumber slices (no dressing, because it would have been cooked) while

the others ate unhealthy food.

All I can say is, the faster we can turn more people onto the benefits of

raw

food, the better.

J.

In a message dated 2/17/2005 10:48:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mroswell writes:

Hi,

I occasionally attend meetings of health care policy people

I persuaded my workplace (I think) to stop purchasing Krispee Kremes for

the staff meetings (duh.)

The last meeting, probably as a result of my conversation with the

director, had no coca-cola, either (the official campus soda company). I'm

sure our next _luncheon_ will have coke and diet coke, per usual, but

nevertheless, the director was proud of the fruit plate (with all

non-organic fruits, including strawberries, and grapes, which

according to foodnews.org are the most pesticide-conatminated...), and the

bagels and cream cheese, and some little processed-flour/sugar muffins.

So, anyhow, that's where we're at.

I'd love to suggest more healthful solutions. They might be open to it if

the solution feels manageable. Of course, the campus has a rule that you

have to purchase food from the official campus vendor, so that's already

going to be a challenge to get around (they offer NOTHING organic.)

Okay, anyhow: Can you (everyone on this list!?) offer suggestions for good

meeting foods, for say, a meeting of 40 people, or a meeting of 8 people.

(I think you can do things for the latter that wouldn't work for a larger

group.)

One idea: order 160 oranges, clementines and tangerines, 4 automatic

juicers, 4 cutting boards, 4 knives, 4 strainers, 4 bowls with lips, 40

cups, some hulled walnuts, and 4 bowls for them.

Set out four stations, for people to cut oranges, and juice them.

Arrange with the campus to have all the dishes washed --we don't have a

kitchen in our office. (Also, arrange with the campus to bypass the

vendor-only requirement, unless they can offer organic oranges......)

I wonder how much this solution would cost? And how it would compare with

the cost of the bagels / cream cheese / muffin /fruit platter solution...

--

Marjorie Roswell

3443 Guilford Terrace

Baltimore, MD 21218

mroswell

410-467-3727

Newest Site: rawfoodwiki.org

[Guest guest]

Elchanan. That's a great suggestion! I went out to dinner with the girls from

the office last night and ended up with the iceberg lettuce salad. I gave in to

some dressing (not raw) and some bread because the iceburg just wasn't cutting

it. And of course regretted it later. I never thought to bring some of my own

fixings!

 

Tess

 

" INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:

 

I find this conversation interesting. I routinely bring my own food and

water into restaurants. I simply tell them that my doctor is put me on a

very special diet. If they inquire further, I explain that it is zero salt

(which they cannot do), extremely low acid (as no vinegar), or a few other

things. Only once in many years has a restaurant objected in any serious

way, and that restaurant is out of business anyway. I generally bring simple

foods -- bananas, my own tomatoes/avocados to put on a salad -- and so

forth. And I am NEVER uncomfortable.

 

I accept the others as they are now, not as I wish they would become, as I

have learned that I can only change or control myself, and even, that not

perfectly so. I am there for the people/circumstances, not for the food.

 

Elchanan

 

 

vegwriter [vegwriter]

Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:20 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Seeking Meeting Foods suggestions (for Standard

American Diet ...

Hi Marjorie,

Good for you for taking action!

This is a challenge for sure.

Last year my then-boss threw a holiday " party " for his few employees and

some

of his clients. (Because he was too cheap to give bonuses.) He held the

party in a small room of a local restaurant. As you can guess, all they

served was

carnivorous food. Knowing in advance that this would be the case, I told the

boss that I had some raw chef friends who were willing to provide free hors

d'oeuvres and desserts. He said no, that the restaurant wouldn't want any

food

brought in. I had to go to the party for political reasons. But it was most

uncomfortable. I sat there pretending to enjoy a plate of iceberg lettuce

and a

few cucumber slices (no dressing, because it would have been cooked) while

the others ate unhealthy food.

All I can say is, the faster we can turn more people onto the benefits of

raw

food, the better.

J.

In a message dated 2/17/2005 10:48:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mroswell writes:

Hi,

I occasionally attend meetings of health care policy people

I persuaded my workplace (I think) to stop purchasing Krispee Kremes for

the staff meetings (duh.)

The last meeting, probably as a result of my conversation with the

director, had no coca-cola, either (the official campus soda company). I'm

sure our next _luncheon_ will have coke and diet coke, per usual, but

nevertheless, the director was proud of the fruit plate (with all

non-organic fruits, including strawberries, and grapes, which

according to foodnews.org are the most pesticide-conatminated...), and the

bagels and cream cheese, and some little processed-flour/sugar muffins.

So, anyhow, that's where we're at.

I'd love to suggest more healthful solutions. They might be open to it if

the solution feels manageable. Of course, the campus has a rule that you

have to purchase food from the official campus vendor, so that's already

going to be a challenge to get around (they offer NOTHING organic.)

Okay, anyhow: Can you (everyone on this list!?) offer suggestions for good

meeting foods, for say, a meeting of 40 people, or a meeting of 8 people.

(I think you can do things for the latter that wouldn't work for a larger

group.)

One idea: order 160 oranges, clementines and tangerines, 4 automatic

juicers, 4 cutting boards, 4 knives, 4 strainers, 4 bowls with lips, 40

cups, some hulled walnuts, and 4 bowls for them.

Set out four stations, for people to cut oranges, and juice them.

Arrange with the campus to have all the dishes washed --we don't have a

kitchen in our office. (Also, arrange with the campus to bypass the

vendor-only requirement, unless they can offer organic oranges......)

I wonder how much this solution would cost? And how it would compare with

the cost of the bagels / cream cheese / muffin /fruit platter solution...

--

Marjorie Roswell

3443 Guilford Terrace

Baltimore, MD 21218

mroswell

410-467-3727

Newest Site: rawfoodwiki.org

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Tess.

 

Once, several years ago, I was scheduled to teach a class and was seeking a

way to illustrate this idea. At that time, some friends invited me to dinner

at TGI Fridays, and I went. It turns out that their order entry system

captures every little detail. So I ordered some kind of salad with chicken,

hold the chicken, hold the tortilla strips, hold the cheese, add double

tomato, add one whole avocado, etc. Had a great time with my friends, no

trouble at all with the food.

 

Then I took the receipt and copied it and handed it out to everyone in the

class. We had a good time with it, as you might imagine.

 

After that dinner, a couple of my friends began asking me questions they

hadn't asked previously. So by simply being myself, and without attempting

to judge or impose anything on anyone, I was able to invite, rather than

" create, " change. The whole thing subsequently unfolded quite nicely over

time.

 

Have a great day!

Elchanan

 

Tess West [tesser2u]

Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:25 AM

rawfood

RE: [Raw Food] Seeking Meeting Foods suggestions (for Standard

American Diet ...

Elchanan. That's a great suggestion! I went out to dinner with the girls

from the office last night and ended up with the iceberg lettuce salad. I

gave in to some dressing (not raw) and some bread because the iceburg just

wasn't cutting it. And of course regretted it later. I never thought to

bring some of my own fixings!

Tess

" INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:

I find this conversation interesting. I routinely bring my own food and

water into restaurants. I simply tell them that my doctor is put me on a

very special diet. If they inquire further, I explain that it is zero salt

(which they cannot do), extremely low acid (as no vinegar), or a few other

things. Only once in many years has a restaurant objected in any serious

way, and that restaurant is out of business anyway. I generally bring simple

foods -- bananas, my own tomatoes/avocados to put on a salad -- and so

forth. And I am NEVER uncomfortable.

I accept the others as they are now, not as I wish they would become, as I

have learned that I can only change or control myself, and even, that not

perfectly so. I am there for the people/circumstances, not for the food.

Elchanan

vegwriter [vegwriter]

Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:20 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Seeking Meeting Foods suggestions (for Standard

American Diet ...

Hi Marjorie,

Good for you for taking action!

This is a challenge for sure.

Last year my then-boss threw a holiday " party " for his few employees and

some

of his clients. (Because he was too cheap to give bonuses.) He held the

party in a small room of a local restaurant. As you can guess, all they

served was

carnivorous food. Knowing in advance that this would be the case, I told the

boss that I had some raw chef friends who were willing to provide free hors

d'oeuvres and desserts. He said no, that the restaurant wouldn't want any

food

brought in. I had to go to the party for political reasons. But it was most

uncomfortable. I sat there pretending to enjoy a plate of iceberg lettuce

and a

few cucumber slices (no dressing, because it would have been cooked) while

the others ate unhealthy food.

All I can say is, the faster we can turn more people onto the benefits of

raw

food, the better.

J.

In a message dated 2/17/2005 10:48:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mroswell writes:

Hi,

I occasionally attend meetings of health care policy people

I persuaded my workplace (I think) to stop purchasing Krispee Kremes for

the staff meetings (duh.)

The last meeting, probably as a result of my conversation with the

director, had no coca-cola, either (the official campus soda company). I'm

sure our next _luncheon_ will have coke and diet coke, per usual, but

nevertheless, the director was proud of the fruit plate (with all

non-organic fruits, including strawberries, and grapes, which

according to foodnews.org are the most pesticide-conatminated...), and the

bagels and cream cheese, and some little processed-flour/sugar muffins.

So, anyhow, that's where we're at.

I'd love to suggest more healthful solutions. They might be open to it if

the solution feels manageable. Of course, the campus has a rule that you

have to purchase food from the official campus vendor, so that's already

going to be a challenge to get around (they offer NOTHING organic.)

Okay, anyhow: Can you (everyone on this list!?) offer suggestions for good

meeting foods, for say, a meeting of 40 people, or a meeting of 8 people.

(I think you can do things for the latter that wouldn't work for a larger

group.)

One idea: order 160 oranges, clementines and tangerines, 4 automatic

juicers, 4 cutting boards, 4 knives, 4 strainers, 4 bowls with lips, 40

cups, some hulled walnuts, and 4 bowls for them.

Set out four stations, for people to cut oranges, and juice them.

Arrange with the campus to have all the dishes washed --we don't have a

kitchen in our office. (Also, arrange with the campus to bypass the

vendor-only requirement, unless they can offer organic oranges......)

I wonder how much this solution would cost? And how it would compare with

the cost of the bagels / cream cheese / muffin /fruit platter solution...

--

Marjorie Roswell

3443 Guilford Terrace

Baltimore, MD 21218

mroswell

410-467-3727

Newest Site: rawfoodwiki.org

[Guest guest]

Just out of curiosity, why are you trying to impose your eating standards on the

others at the meetings? Wouldn't it be simpler to bring your own foods to the

meetings and let everyone else go their own way?

 

Carolyn

 

 

 

-

Margie Roswell

 

 

And I should be clear: I mean " as easy as " chips or bagels or diet cola...

 

I'm explicitly looking for healthful substitutes that are just as

manageable (or nearly so) for both servers and eaters as these foods

above.

 

Yes, of course, whole fruit. Any additional ideas are welcome.

 

[snip]

 

 

[Guest guest]

There are several kinds of meetings I'm referring to.

 

- Morning meetings...the kind where people usually expect some coffee and

pastry (For this I was proposing the make-your-own-fresh-orange-juice

solution, with walnuts, but haven't tried it, so don't know if it would

work...)

 

- Lunch meetings, where you usually have a caterer, and people are

expecting

to eat.

 

- Meetings where the food is incidental, and the focus might be, say, on a

PowerPoint presentation. People might want something that is as easy as

chips or bagels, or diet cola....I guess this is similar to the morning

meeting above.

 

Okay, so: what works for meetings (in which most participants have never

even heard of raw food, and would think it quite weird if they did)?

 

 

 

 

 

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Tess West wrote:

 

>

>

> Elchanan. That's a great suggestion! I went out to dinner with the girls from

the office last night and ended up with the iceberg lettuce salad. I gave in to

some dressing (not raw) and some bread because the iceburg just wasn't cutting

it. And of course regretted it later. I never thought to bring some of my own

fixings!

>

> Tess

>

> " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:

>

> I find this conversation interesting. I routinely bring my own food and

> water into restaurants. I simply tell them that my doctor is put me on a

> very special diet. If they inquire further, I explain that it is zero salt

> (which they cannot do), extremely low acid (as no vinegar), or a few other

> things. Only once in many years has a restaurant objected in any serious

> way, and that restaurant is out of business anyway. I generally bring simple

> foods -- bananas, my own tomatoes/avocados to put on a salad -- and so

> forth. And I am NEVER uncomfortable.

>

> I accept the others as they are now, not as I wish they would become, as I

> have learned that I can only change or control myself, and even, that not

> perfectly so. I am there for the people/circumstances, not for the food.

>

> Elchanan

>

>

> vegwriter [vegwriter]

> Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:20 AM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Seeking Meeting Foods suggestions (for Standard

> American Diet ...

>

>

> Hi Marjorie,

>

> Good for you for taking action!

> This is a challenge for sure.

>

> Last year my then-boss threw a holiday " party " for his few employees and

> some

> of his clients. (Because he was too cheap to give bonuses.) He held the

> party in a small room of a local restaurant. As you can guess, all they

> served was

> carnivorous food. Knowing in advance that this would be the case, I told the

>

> boss that I had some raw chef friends who were willing to provide free hors

> d'oeuvres and desserts. He said no, that the restaurant wouldn't want any

> food

> brought in. I had to go to the party for political reasons. But it was most

> uncomfortable. I sat there pretending to enjoy a plate of iceberg lettuce

> and a

> few cucumber slices (no dressing, because it would have been cooked) while

> the others ate unhealthy food.

>

> All I can say is, the faster we can turn more people onto the benefits of

> raw

> food, the better.

>

> J.

>

> In a message dated 2/17/2005 10:48:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> mroswell writes:

>

> Hi,

>

> I occasionally attend meetings of health care policy people

>

> I persuaded my workplace (I think) to stop purchasing Krispee Kremes for

> the staff meetings (duh.)

>

> The last meeting, probably as a result of my conversation with the

> director, had no coca-cola, either (the official campus soda company). I'm

> sure our next _luncheon_ will have coke and diet coke, per usual, but

> nevertheless, the director was proud of the fruit plate (with all

> non-organic fruits, including strawberries, and grapes, which

> according to foodnews.org are the most pesticide-conatminated...), and the

> bagels and cream cheese, and some little processed-flour/sugar muffins.

>

> So, anyhow, that's where we're at.

>

> I'd love to suggest more healthful solutions. They might be open to it if

> the solution feels manageable. Of course, the campus has a rule that you

> have to purchase food from the official campus vendor, so that's already

> going to be a challenge to get around (they offer NOTHING organic.)

>

> Okay, anyhow: Can you (everyone on this list!?) offer suggestions for good

> meeting foods, for say, a meeting of 40 people, or a meeting of 8 people.

> (I think you can do things for the latter that wouldn't work for a larger

> group.)

>

>

>

> One idea: order 160 oranges, clementines and tangerines, 4 automatic

> juicers, 4 cutting boards, 4 knives, 4 strainers, 4 bowls with lips, 40

> cups, some hulled walnuts, and 4 bowls for them.

>

> Set out four stations, for people to cut oranges, and juice them.

>

>

> Arrange with the campus to have all the dishes washed --we don't have a

> kitchen in our office. (Also, arrange with the campus to bypass the

> vendor-only requirement, unless they can offer organic oranges......)

>

> I wonder how much this solution would cost? And how it would compare with

> the cost of the bagels / cream cheese / muffin /fruit platter solution...

>

>

> --

> Marjorie Roswell

> 3443 Guilford Terrace

> Baltimore, MD 21218

> mroswell

> 410-467-3727

> Newest Site: rawfoodwiki.org

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

And I should be clear: I mean " as easy as " chips or bagels or diet cola...

 

I'm explicitly looking for healthful substitutes that are just as

manageable (or nearly so) for both servers and eaters as these foods

above.

 

Yes, of course, whole fruit. Any additional ideas are welcome.

 

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Margie Roswell wrote:

 

>

> There are several kinds of meetings I'm referring to.

>

> - Morning meetings...the kind where people usually expect some coffee and

> pastry (For this I was proposing the make-your-own-fresh-orange-juice

> solution, with walnuts, but haven't tried it, so don't know if it would

> work...)

>

> - Lunch meetings, where you usually have a caterer, and people are

> expecting

> to eat.

>

> - Meetings where the food is incidental, and the focus might be, say, on a

> PowerPoint presentation. People might want something that is as easy as

> chips or bagels, or diet cola....I guess this is similar to the morning

> meeting above.

>

> Okay, so: what works for meetings (in which most participants have never

> even heard of raw food, and would think it quite weird if they did)?

>

>

>

>

>

> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Tess West wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Elchanan. That's a great suggestion! I went out to dinner with the girls

from the office last night and ended up with the iceberg lettuce salad. I gave

in to some dressing (not raw) and some bread because the iceburg just wasn't

cutting it. And of course regretted it later. I never thought to bring some of

my own fixings!

> >

> > Tess

> >

> > " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:

> >

> > I find this conversation interesting. I routinely bring my own food and

> > water into restaurants. I simply tell them that my doctor is put me on a

> > very special diet. If they inquire further, I explain that it is zero salt

> > (which they cannot do), extremely low acid (as no vinegar), or a few other

> > things. Only once in many years has a restaurant objected in any serious

> > way, and that restaurant is out of business anyway. I generally bring simple

> > foods -- bananas, my own tomatoes/avocados to put on a salad -- and so

> > forth. And I am NEVER uncomfortable.

> >

> > I accept the others as they are now, not as I wish they would become, as I

> > have learned that I can only change or control myself, and even, that not

> > perfectly so. I am there for the people/circumstances, not for the food.

> >

> > Elchanan

> >

> >

> > vegwriter [vegwriter]

> > Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:20 AM

> > rawfood

> > Re: [Raw Food] Seeking Meeting Foods suggestions (for Standard

> > American Diet ...

> >

> >

> > Hi Marjorie,

> >

> > Good for you for taking action!

> > This is a challenge for sure.

> >

> > Last year my then-boss threw a holiday " party " for his few employees and

> > some

> > of his clients. (Because he was too cheap to give bonuses.) He held the

> > party in a small room of a local restaurant. As you can guess, all they

> > served was

> > carnivorous food. Knowing in advance that this would be the case, I told the

> >

> > boss that I had some raw chef friends who were willing to provide free hors

> > d'oeuvres and desserts. He said no, that the restaurant wouldn't want any

> > food

> > brought in. I had to go to the party for political reasons. But it was most

> > uncomfortable. I sat there pretending to enjoy a plate of iceberg lettuce

> > and a

> > few cucumber slices (no dressing, because it would have been cooked) while

> > the others ate unhealthy food.

> >

> > All I can say is, the faster we can turn more people onto the benefits of

> > raw

> > food, the better.

> >

> > J.

> >

> > In a message dated 2/17/2005 10:48:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> > mroswell writes:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I occasionally attend meetings of health care policy people

> >

> > I persuaded my workplace (I think) to stop purchasing Krispee Kremes for

> > the staff meetings (duh.)

> >

> > The last meeting, probably as a result of my conversation with the

> > director, had no coca-cola, either (the official campus soda company). I'm

> > sure our next _luncheon_ will have coke and diet coke, per usual, but

> > nevertheless, the director was proud of the fruit plate (with all

> > non-organic fruits, including strawberries, and grapes, which

> > according to foodnews.org are the most pesticide-conatminated...), and the

> > bagels and cream cheese, and some little processed-flour/sugar muffins.

> >

> > So, anyhow, that's where we're at.

> >

> > I'd love to suggest more healthful solutions. They might be open to it if

> > the solution feels manageable. Of course, the campus has a rule that you

> > have to purchase food from the official campus vendor, so that's already

> > going to be a challenge to get around (they offer NOTHING organic.)

> >

> > Okay, anyhow: Can you (everyone on this list!?) offer suggestions for good

> > meeting foods, for say, a meeting of 40 people, or a meeting of 8 people.

> > (I think you can do things for the latter that wouldn't work for a larger

> > group.)

> >

> >

> >

> > One idea: order 160 oranges, clementines and tangerines, 4 automatic

> > juicers, 4 cutting boards, 4 knives, 4 strainers, 4 bowls with lips, 40

> > cups, some hulled walnuts, and 4 bowls for them.

> >

> > Set out four stations, for people to cut oranges, and juice them.

> >

> >

> > Arrange with the campus to have all the dishes washed --we don't have a

> > kitchen in our office. (Also, arrange with the campus to bypass the

> > vendor-only requirement, unless they can offer organic oranges......)

> >

> > I wonder how much this solution would cost? And how it would compare with

> > the cost of the bagels / cream cheese / muffin /fruit platter solution...

> >

> >

> > --

> > Marjorie Roswell

> > 3443 Guilford Terrace

> > Baltimore, MD 21218

> > mroswell

> > 410-467-3727

> > Newest Site: rawfoodwiki.org

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

We're gonna get a " trim your posts " warning Margie.

 

rawfood , Margie Roswell <mroswell@f...> wrote:

> There are several kinds of meetings I'm referring to.

[Guest guest]

For the snack food and addition to lunch ...

 

Not sure where you are located, though if you have access to a Whole

Foods or Wild Oats close by, they can often do a party tray with

fresh organic veggies, and I would imagine, on request, a raw " dip "

of some sort. You can order raw almond butter in jars to keep on

hand to go along with either the fruit or the veggies.

 

The raw nuts are good, as are dehydrated fruit - there's a brand

called Simply Tomatoes, that has all kinds of dehydrated fruits and

veggies to nibble on. I know I've seen this at Whole Foods and some

other health food stores too.

 

Whole Foods, in the bulk pre-packaged section, also has some Carob

Energy Nuggets that are tasty.

 

Those are going to be your easiest and most accessible choices, and

equally good as chips/dip.

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Siviax3 wrote:

 

> Just out of curiosity, why are you trying to impose your eating

> standards on the others at the meetings? Wouldn't it be simpler to

> bring your own foods to the meetings and let everyone else go their own

> way?

 

Meetings of health policy organizations shouldn't be offering Krispy

Kremes to attendees. C'mon, is anybody with me on this?

 

Anyhow, I'm not going to succeed in " imposing " anything. I'm looking for

solutions that will make people feel good.

 

 

Also, I'm specifically on the lookout for health policy organizations

which represent good health practices. I also I want to WORK for the kind

of organization that represents best, or at least good health practices.

 

I simply don't believe that people drinking diet coke, and krispy kremes

have a chance at making good health policy.

 

So, hey, let's compile a list of solutions.

 

(Whole Foods....some people like to call it " Whole Paycheck. " For that

reason, I'm looking for a mix of do-it-yourself solutions, as well as

vendor-based ones.)

 

If everybody on this list sent me one solution for different kinds of

meetings, I could compile them all, and turn them into a pretty useful

resource.

 

Sincerely,

 

Margie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

Marjorie Roswell

3443 Guilford Terrace

Baltimore, MD 21218

mroswell

410-467-3727

Newest Site: rawfoodwiki.org

[Guest guest]

I am reminded of a quote from the writings of Mark Twain, roughly, " The

damndest thing is that everybody has his reasons. " What may seem utterly

obvious to many on this list may seem completely outside the realm of

consideration to others, regardless of their education, title, job, etc. We

all want and need the liberty to choose, we can only have it if we equally

give it, in full measure, without hesitation or reservation of any kind.

That is the nature of liberty.

 

Elchanan

 

 

Margie Roswell [mroswell]

Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:37 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Seeking Meeting Foods suggestions (for Standard

American Diet ...

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Siviax3 wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, why are you trying to impose your eating

> standards on the others at the meetings? Wouldn't it be simpler to

> bring your own foods to the meetings and let everyone else go their own

> way?

Meetings of health policy organizations shouldn't be offering Krispy

Kremes to attendees. C'mon, is anybody with me on this?

Anyhow, I'm not going to succeed in " imposing " anything. I'm looking for

solutions that will make people feel good.

Also, I'm specifically on the lookout for health policy organizations

which represent good health practices. I also I want to WORK for the kind

of organization that represents best, or at least good health practices.

I simply don't believe that people drinking diet coke, and krispy kremes

have a chance at making good health policy.

So, hey, let's compile a list of solutions.

(Whole Foods....some people like to call it " Whole Paycheck. " For that

reason, I'm looking for a mix of do-it-yourself solutions, as well as

vendor-based ones.)

If everybody on this list sent me one solution for different kinds of

meetings, I could compile them all, and turn them into a pretty useful

resource.

Sincerely,

Margie

>

Marjorie Roswell

3443 Guilford Terrace

Baltimore, MD 21218

mroswell

410-467-3727

Newest Site: rawfoodwiki.org

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[Guest guest]

It is the damndest thing. What is obvious for me isn't right for

someone else. This isn't hard to recognize and accept as the needs

of someone have to do with their own psychic (system?) makeup. God's

creatures are the way they are for various and sundry reasons which

serve the purposes of the Creator, not my purposes. Knowledge and

experience have little to do with it. Those who are behind will

catch up eventually. Imitating the I am as I am's is how man is

created in the image of God. And certainly God makes his own choices

in an absolutely perfect, final way. I do not equally give the

liberty to choose however, neither do I expect to receive it. I'm

not perfect and neither is anyone else and what may be right to

someone may be very wrong in the eyes of the Creator and should be

eliminated. Of course, you have to have a belief in God and a

recognition that doing God's will is important in your life to even

begin to attempt this. Commonality of love among humans is more

important than someone's freedom of choice. Service to others should

be stressed as service to oneself in terms of our liberty to choose.

 

The cry for liberty is very strong in this society as the will of the

unseen God can hardly be deciphered by anyone. So it's easy to just

look to self-determination as the right road to follow, the I am

imitating the I am again. But we have laws for a reason, we have

rights and wrongs according to society's judgment for a reason.

Prohibitive laws will never go away and they will probably strengthen

over time. As man has his laws, so God has his and over time, they

too manifest in the lives of individuals and society. Carrying out

those laws as they're learned and understood is the quest of

eternity. And I realize that most of what I just wrote you will

dismiss and disagree with Elchanon.

 

rawfood , " INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo@e...>

wrote:

>

> I am reminded of a quote from the writings of Mark Twain,

roughly, " The

> damndest thing is that everybody has his reasons. " What may seem

utterly

> obvious to many on this list may seem completely outside the realm

of

> consideration to others, regardless of their education, title, job,

etc. We

> all want and need the liberty to choose, we can only have it if we

equally

> give it, in full measure, without hesitation or reservation of any

kind.

> That is the nature of liberty.

>

> Elchanan

[Guest guest]

Well put!

 

" INFO @ Vibrant Life " <VLinfo wrote:

I am reminded of a quote from the writings of Mark Twain, roughly, " The

damndest thing is that everybody has his reasons. " What may seem utterly

obvious to many on this list may seem completely outside the realm of

consideration to others, regardless of their education, title, job, etc. We

all want and need the liberty to choose, we can only have it if we equally

give it, in full measure, without hesitation or reservation of any kind.

That is the nature of liberty.

 

Elchanan

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Yes, but you would not wish to eat them afterward :)

 

Tara [peechysweett71]

Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:39 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Seeking Meeting Foods suggestions (for Standard

American Diet ...

does anyone know if you can freeze alfalfa sprouts

A & G <aummm1 wrote:

> Do you know what temperature these are dehydrated at? I don't

think this is

> a raw foods company.

>

Had the name slightly off - it's actually " Just Tomatoes " , and I

called them to see about their processes. The apples, persimmons,

and tomatoes, and a fruit mix they have are dehydrated at or below

105 degrees, the other products are freeze dried and never go above

90 degrees. Some products are also certified organic, and the label

on the product states as such for those that qualify for organic.

So, I would think this qualifies as a raw foods company.