Guest guest Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Yes, but would need much more information. Please write privately VLinfo. Elchanan Debbie Mahurin [debmahurin] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 8:08 PM rawfood [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES JUST WONDERING IF ANY ONE CAN GIVE ME ANY INFO FOR A DIABETIC AND THE RAW FOOD DIET FOR AN ELDERLY PERSON? _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Actually, and surprisingly to most people, diabetes II responds best to fruit and greens. It is true that a high-greens diet may lead to short-term positive change. But the problem with relying heavily on greens is that you cannot live on them, they simply don't provide enough calories/ fuel for thermomechanical energy. Diabetes is NOT a sugar problem though it appears to manifest as such. But diabetes, hyper/hypoglycemia, insulin resistance, chronic fatigue, Candida, among other " conditions " are largely result from elevated blood fat. Elevated blood fat inhibits sugar uptake, so that sugar cannot leave the blood and transfer into the cells that need it. The cells are hungry, and the blood retains " too much " sugar. The body responds by producing more insulin, eventually bringing down the blood sugar for the moment. The person then eats as usual, bringing in another does of fat and starch. The problem repeats, until after a number of years, adrenal/pancreatic fatigues sets in. If adrenal fatigue is diagnosed, you may be told you have chronic fatigue. If pancreatic fatigue is diagnosed, you will be told it is diabetes or some other blood sugar problem. And then the medical industry shovels insulin. By removing all fatty foods -- even nuts, seeds, and avocado for awhile -- and consuming fruits and greens, you can watch the diabetes disappear permanently, in a stable, sustainable way. Fasting can also be constructive, but ONLY after all medication is removed. Then you can reintegrate the raw high-fat foods, if you like. All that having been said, there is much more to know. If you are taking any drugs (insulin, etc.), then someone with experience working with such a diet and with getting off meds. Earlier I recommended Dr. Tim Trader, that is a good resource. Or Dr. Doug Graham, if he is available to work with. Best, Elchanan Steven [rawfasting] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:04 AM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES Debbie, Diabetes responds mostly to dark leafy greens. When you watch the blood sugar levels they will go down quickly. However, they will go up just as fast when you revert back to your old ways. You may want to make an energy soup that Ann Wigmore is so famous for. This will get some greens into their system while allowing their palette to change. Then you can make them a salad and you're off to the races. When diabetics adopt this diet and are type 2 taking no insulin they will be 100% cured 100% of the time when they STAY on the diet. Type 1 will be 100 cured 70% of the time and the other 30% will have a significant reduction in insulin! Steven www.rawfriends.com <http://www.rawfriends.com/> Debbie Mahurin [debmahurin] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:08 PM rawfood [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES JUST WONDERING IF ANY ONE CAN GIVE ME ANY INFO FOR A DIABETIC AND THE RAW FOOD DIET FOR AN ELDERLY PERSON? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Oh, and Steven, I strongly suggest that you be much more conservative in your claims regarding Type 1 diabetes. The definition itself has changed over the years, and such claims are not always sustainable. I personally know of people who have died messing around as you suggest. When type 1 is diagnosed, =one really does require the presence of serious knowledge and experience. Elchanan Steven [rawfasting] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:04 AM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES Debbie, Diabetes responds mostly to dark leafy greens. When you watch the blood sugar levels they will go down quickly. However, they will go up just as fast when you revert back to your old ways. You may want to make an energy soup that Ann Wigmore is so famous for. This will get some greens into their system while allowing their palette to change. Then you can make them a salad and you're off to the races. When diabetics adopt this diet and are type 2 taking no insulin they will be 100% cured 100% of the time when they STAY on the diet. Type 1 will be 100 cured 70% of the time and the other 30% will have a significant reduction in insulin! Steven www.rawfriends.com <http://www.rawfriends.com/> Debbie Mahurin [debmahurin] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:08 PM rawfood [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES JUST WONDERING IF ANY ONE CAN GIVE ME ANY INFO FOR A DIABETIC AND THE RAW FOOD DIET FOR AN ELDERLY PERSON? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Not my claims they are from A health institute INFO @ Vibrant Life [VLinfo] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:12 PM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES Oh, and Steven, I strongly suggest that you be much more conservative in your claims regarding Type 1 diabetes. The definition itself has changed over the years, and such claims are not always sustainable. I personally know of people who have died messing around as you suggest. When type 1 is diagnosed, =one really does require the presence of serious knowledge and experience. Elchanan Steven [rawfasting] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:04 AM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES Debbie, Diabetes responds mostly to dark leafy greens. When you watch the blood sugar levels they will go down quickly. However, they will go up just as fast when you revert back to your old ways. You may want to make an energy soup that Ann Wigmore is so famous for. This will get some greens into their system while allowing their palette to change. Then you can make them a salad and you're off to the races. When diabetics adopt this diet and are type 2 taking no insulin they will be 100% cured 100% of the time when they STAY on the diet. Type 1 will be 100 cured 70% of the time and the other 30% will have a significant reduction in insulin! Steven www.rawfriends.com <http://www.rawfriends.com/> Debbie Mahurin [debmahurin] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:08 PM rawfood [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES JUST WONDERING IF ANY ONE CAN GIVE ME ANY INFO FOR A DIABETIC AND THE RAW FOOD DIET FOR AN ELDERLY PERSON? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Well, you didn't attribute, you expressed them as your own. And health institute or not, they are not only bogus, in this case they could be downright dangerous. You won't hear me go there very often, but this is one such case. Elchanan Steven [rawfasting] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:32 PM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES Not my claims they are from A health institute INFO @ Vibrant Life [VLinfo] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:12 PM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES Oh, and Steven, I strongly suggest that you be much more conservative in your claims regarding Type 1 diabetes. The definition itself has changed over the years, and such claims are not always sustainable. I personally know of people who have died messing around as you suggest. When type 1 is diagnosed, =one really does require the presence of serious knowledge and experience. Elchanan Steven [rawfasting] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:04 AM rawfood RE: [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES Debbie, Diabetes responds mostly to dark leafy greens. When you watch the blood sugar levels they will go down quickly. However, they will go up just as fast when you revert back to your old ways. You may want to make an energy soup that Ann Wigmore is so famous for. This will get some greens into their system while allowing their palette to change. Then you can make them a salad and you're off to the races. When diabetics adopt this diet and are type 2 taking no insulin they will be 100% cured 100% of the time when they STAY on the diet. Type 1 will be 100 cured 70% of the time and the other 30% will have a significant reduction in insulin! Steven www.rawfriends.com <http://www.rawfriends.com/> Debbie Mahurin [debmahurin] Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:08 PM rawfood [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES JUST WONDERING IF ANY ONE CAN GIVE ME ANY INFO FOR A DIABETIC AND THE RAW FOOD DIET FOR AN ELDERLY PERSON? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Brenda Davis wrote a terrific book called Defeating Diabetes, which I recommend for anyone who has diabetes, or who cares for someone who does. She is currently one of several co-authors writing a raw book. Sincerely, Margie On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Steven wrote: > > Not my claims they are from A health institute > > > INFO @ Vibrant Life [VLinfo] > Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:12 PM > rawfood > RE: [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES > > > Oh, and Steven, I strongly suggest that you be much more conservative in > your claims regarding Type 1 diabetes. The definition itself has changed > over the years, and such claims are not always sustainable. I personally > know of people who have died messing around as you suggest. When type 1 is > diagnosed, =one really does require the presence of serious knowledge and > experience. > > Elchanan > > > Steven [rawfasting] > Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:04 AM > rawfood > RE: [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES > > > > Debbie, > > > > Diabetes responds mostly to dark leafy greens. When you watch the blood > sugar levels they will go down quickly. However, they will go up just as > fast when you revert back to your old ways. You may want to make an energy > soup that Ann Wigmore is so famous for. This will get some greens into their > system while allowing their palette to change. Then you can make them a > salad and you're off to the races. When diabetics adopt this diet and are > type 2 taking no insulin they will be 100% cured 100% of the time when they > STAY on the diet. Type 1 will be 100 cured 70% of the time and the other 30% > will have a significant reduction in insulin! > > > > Steven > > www.rawfriends.com <http://www.rawfriends.com/> > > > > > Debbie Mahurin [debmahurin] > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:08 PM > rawfood > [Raw Food] RAW DIET AND TYPE 2 DIABETES > > > JUST WONDERING IF ANY ONE CAN GIVE ME ANY INFO FOR A DIABETIC AND THE > > RAW FOOD DIET FOR AN ELDERLY PERSON? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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